Google’s PRISM denial

First, we have not joined any program that would give the U.S. government—or any other government—direct access to our servers. Indeed, the U.S. government does not have direct access or a “back door” to the information stored in our data centers. We had not heard of a program called PRISM until yesterday.

Given the way Google lies, this could be seen as confirmation of PRISM.



  • http://chosafine.me/ Cristian Colocho

    Following this logic, I assume Apple, Facebooks, and Microsofts denials are all false as well.

    (The realist in me says no, but hey — conspiracy theories are fun!)

    • quietstorms

      You’re right but there have been rumors since Google’s existence that they were funded by the CIA. MS has been rumored to have a back door for the US for two decades.

      • Agarun Ilyaguyev

        Ah, well, you know what they say.. a rumor = absolute truth.

        /s

        • Jessica Darko

          If you know how these agencies work, and you study the history of the US government in these areas, those rumors are pretty plausible.

          It’s been well known for at least a decade that the NSA has secure rooms at ISPs copying information.

          You can’t do that without the people running the data centers knowing about it, and they talk about it, and it’s well known, yet most people think it’s just a “rumor”.

        • quietstorms

          Until it becomes the truth right?

    • Jessica Darko

      Before you go bashing conspiracy theories, you should know that conspiracy fact is well documented. Just look in history at the actions of the US government. The conspiracies often get revealed, but since time has passed nobody seems to care. The idea that a government would be doing false flag operations 40 years ago, but not now is kinda laughable.

      Hell, look at the founding of the federal reserve- a massive conspiracy, kept secret, involving the largest theft of wealth in world history… it’s not a theory, it’s simple fact, long established and indisputable… yet people act as if a government conspiracy is impossible?

      That’s not being realist, that’s being gullible.

      • quietstorms

        I remember all the crazy conspiracy theories that turned out to be true like the CIA wanting to kill Castro with an exploding cigar.

        A lot of these stories couldn’t be made up.

    • GFYantiapplezealots

      You obviously don’t know what logic is.

  • Henry

    I’m pretty sure the law says they cannot acknowledge their assistance in domestic spying even if they wanted to.

  • tylernol

    they are all saying no “direct access” by the government. But that still allows a third party like..Palintir or similar to have access and process the data for..the government..,

  • http://www.johncblandii.com John C. Bland II

    I look forward to the post showing all, or at least a few, Google lies leading you and many of your followers to the “Google lies” conclusion. (seriously, no sarcasm)

  • The White Tiger

    Jesus, calm down that hate boner. Every company in the PRISM list has denied any involvement, so they’re all lying, are bound by law to deny it, or are genuinely not involved.

    We’ll find out in the coming weeks.

  • Moeskido

    Weasel language in this denial, much like most of the others.

  • dr.no

    Apple’s deniel since Jim didn’t cover it. “We have never heard of PRISM. We do not provide any government agency with direct access to our servers, and any government agency requesting customer data must get a court order.”

    US has been spying on foreign phone calls since the 70s. The whole FISA is all about that. It has been extended to Internet where US companies had sell their customer data to the Feds. They even got immunity for this. So Now all internet traffic is being data mined.

    Don’t forget all Credit Card is processed by Federal Reserve. Any Foreigner not know this is dumb or think that US Law protects them.

    All this came out just as US was going to talk to China about Hacking.

    Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, #JimsLaugh.

  • Oh my

    Wow that was stupid in a scale never experienced.

    Now that Apple has not produced anything new in almost a year, it becomes clear, how shallow these Apple PR-blogs are. Althought I still use Apples devices the main reasons I hear my friends are not buying them is that Apple fans are such a assholes. People who think that buying stuff makes them better people. Sort of masturbation in public. Rarely they bother to understand why the devices use are better tha competition. For example Jim is such a shallow man he does not have competance for that either.

    It is such same that Apple community has chosen these men for their beacon of light. Hell Yeah, one liners of rumors and inuendo is the highest form of genius.

    • Jessica Darko

      Standard Android troll markers: Blatent Lie: “Apple hasn’t produced anything new in almost a year” (ignores iPhone 5, iPad 4, iPad MINI! a whole new form factor)

      Claim to objectivity: “I still use apple devices” (we don’t believe you)

      Blatent Insult: “apple fans are such assholes”.

      You know what? We’ve been dealing with your kind for decades. You can’t just leave us in peace, you have to come here and say nasty things about our platform of choice.

      And we’re the assholes? You don’t see Apple fans going and harassing android users.

      • http://www.johncblandii.com John C. Bland II

        I do.

        • The White Tiger

          Ditto.

          Neither side should be claiming to be minding their own business. Only individuals can reasonably state that.

        • GFYantiapplezealots

          You do? BULLSHIT! I’m on forums all day long and I never see the crap from Apple fans that come from Android trolls like yourself.

          • http://www.johncblandii.com John C. Bland II

            Far from a troll sir. I was on iOS first and frequented iOS sites and stayed after changing my preference.

            Name 3 Android sites you’re on where Apple people aren’t there bashing Android, purely to substantiate your claims.

  • Agarun Ilyaguyev

    Gee, alright. I don’t suppose Apple’s denial “could be seen as confirmation”, huh? Because goodness knows, they wouldn’t tell a lie. /s

    Honestly, Jim, one sided product and/or company strategy’ opinions are one thing, but to continually pan Apple’s competition, especially based on nothing, is something else entirely :/

    • Jessica Darko

      I think Jim just hadn’t seen Apple’s denial when he wrote this.

      Alas, it is unfortunate that Apple issued the same talking points based response that the others did.

      In fact, I see all of them using the same language as a strong marker that they all got a memo from their handlers directing them on what to say.

      Or put another way, using the same language is confirmation that the program exists.

      It’s confirmation by denial!

      • http://www.thediceguys.com Dean Lewis

        Exactly! You can ask Brian about confirmation by denial. It’s real!

        http://youtu.be/0uMJYQ9LKGQ

        “I’m not the messiah! Honestly!” “Only the true messiah denies his divinity!”

  • http://www.johncblandii.com John C. Bland II

    “We cannot say this more clearly—the government does not have access to Google servers—not directly, or via a back door, or a so-called drop box. Nor have we received blanket orders of the kind being discussed in the media. It is quite wrong to insinuate otherwise. We provide user data to governments only in accordance with the law. Our legal team reviews each and every request, and frequently pushes back when requests are overly broad or don’t follow the correct process. And we have taken the lead in being as transparent as possible about government requests for user information.” - From +David Drummond, Chief Legal Officer

    https://plus.google.com/+google/posts/TMh6gUVrwMq