Robert Scoble started a Facebook thread to discuss the new Steve Jobs movie when Woz weighed in with some pretty interesting comments.

From Woz:

One thing nobody likes to point out is that John Sculley himself, as well as almost all of us at Apple, believed that the Macintosh was Apple’s future. We all sacrificed the growing personal computer market (10x over a decade and MS got all the growth) in this belief. We (Sculley leading) had to work very hard for 3 years to make the Macintosh as successful (in dollars) as the Apple ][ had ever been, following Jobs’ vision. The choices can be argued because you can never go back and say what decisions would have what results, but it was a business decision to SAVE Apple as a company, after the stock dropped by a third in about a day when the Macintosh failed to sell due to not much software. Steve Jobs wasn’t pushed out of the company. He left. I supported him in his belief that he was made to create computers. But up until then he’d only had failures at creation. He was great at productizing and marketing the Apple ][ and the revenues financed the failures Apple ///, LISA, Macintosh and NeXT. This is not shown in the movie. After the Macintosh failure it’s fair to assume that Jobs’ left out of his feeling of greatness, and embarrassment about not having achieved it. That is not shown either. This movie is more about Steve Jobs inside, his non-feeling about a lot of things including how others thought of him, and some pushes to reform that in the end.

And:

When we started Apple, for real with money, I made the decision to be an engineer in the lab, for life. I did not want the conflict and politics of running the business. Hence, I did not see Jobs’ reactions to when things didn’t go his way. Pretty much everything we touched or tried was gold and it was hard to have things not go your way often in those times. Jobs would get into discussions but he was almost always the smartest person with the most thought out arguments and reasoning. The LISA cost too much when Jobs thought we could pull off some Woz Magic and make it cost very little. That’s only because Steve didn’t know computers and what it would take to make the right good machine. So it wasn’t that things didn’t go his way other than that his idea hadn’t panned out. In that case, he blamed the LISA team. Never himself. The right move of an executive would have been to keep the LISA secret, inside, until RAM prices dropped 10x, after maybe 5 years or so. But Steve felt it was the fault of lousy engineers who couldn’t find shortcuts. He would walk into meetings and tell engineers and teams that they were idiots and walk out. He then took over our Macintosh project because we had the few most creative sorts in the company, and headed it to being a low-cost LISA. He had the benefit of extra years for RAM prices to fall. Every penny had to be saved, as it still came out a bit on the expensive side. Color was out. Cleverness allowed it to use less RAM and more ROM and more floppy to save money. It had a disk file system but not a full general OS. Just a program to ‘look like’ a mouse-based computer was all Steve wanted, largely because his technical knowledge was low, on what an OS was about. The machine just had to look the way he wanted so he didn’t listen to others. The creative engineers put in a test port that could allow expansion but Jobs got wind of it and cancelled that, as it was openness. He continually fought the open/closed battle probably due to having lost it (with myself) on the Apple ][. I owned the Apple ][ and just told him to go get another computer if he wanted only 2 slots for a printer and modem (which he understood) instead of 8 useful ones. Kind of “my way or the highway” I told him. From some point on he was never going to be out of control of things.

Fascinating.