Samsung’s Tizen OS

With Samsung making the two OSes so closely resemble each other, some day it might be possible to quietly swap OSes in Samsung’s mainstream smartphone, just like it did with the Gear line. For the interface at least, the change-over seems like it would be pretty seamless.

I give Samsung credit, this is the smart way to transition to a new OS—make it seamless for the user. As noted in the article, apps remain the big problem. This is a nightmare for Google.

  • imthedude

    How is it a nightmare? You said it yourself. Users don’t want a platform with no applications, good example Windows Phone. Samsung will have to sell a TON of these, before devs become interested in writing apps for it, and who’s going to buy it when there’s no apps for it? Unless they can easily convert their android apps, then it would be more worrisome indeed.

    • rattyuk

      It’s a nightmare “FOR GOOGLE”.

      They’ve tried to get the monopoly on handset users and their “golden child” Samsung is now rolling their own OS and moving data away from Google – the only reason Android was created for in the first place.

      • The White Tiger

        Right, so again, how is it a nightmare? imthedude’s point is that Tizen has no apps, which is going to make it extremely difficult to get people to switch. Even after several years of Galaxy models, people are entrenched in the Android ecosystem– not Samsung’s shit hardware. They’re gonna want their Gmail and YouTube and Now and the various third-party apps Android offers; not just Samsung’s often half-baked stand-ins.

        As the article states, it’s a chicken-and-egg problem that has to be dealt with, and even Microsoft hasn’t been able to resolve that issue yet.

        • DaDude

          Samsung will keep throwing ad money at Tizen, until it’s a success or they go broke.

        • dylanseeger

          Samsung is Android to most people. If Samsung asks Android devs to recode their apps for the new OS, they will.

    • Or presumably they could flip the switch, and there’d be millions out there already.

      • narcogen

        You mean push an entire OS switch out to the userbase OTA– not just a patch or point release? Across multiple worldwide networks and devices? Presumably disabling or deleting outright incompatible Android apps? Surely you jest, sir. Even if they could, which I’d say they can’t, they wouldn’t.

        • With a compatibility layer? Of course they could. And they’re Samsung: of course they would.

  • ChristoDeluxe

    The missing piece is where Google ships support for running Android apps using AOSP, same like Amazon does with Kindle tablets. They can’t do that while playing ball with Google probably, but if they ever decide to cut ties, they could ship that support in Tizen, and as long as they have big device volume, major developers will ship apps in a Samsung app store.

    • ChristoDeluxe

      And by Google I meant “Samsung” there…

  • Ali

    There seems to be quite a presumption that this will be an all of nothing from Samsung, but running Tizen on older hardware and selling in developing markets and as low end smartphones would make a lot of sense. Samsung can’t fork AOSP less Google uses the OHA to sanction them, as it did with the Aliyun fork and Samsung won’t want to risk that at the expense of its current position. Nor will it want a straight up swap across the board as there would be massive consumer backlash over apps. But a separate OS for cheap hardware fits in well, even if it only makes a little dent in the western market – as WP8 has, with limited apps – it could become a nightmare for Googles potential market share in countries where there is limited smartphone use, where neither Android or iOS have become dominant players. Tizen has been in development for a while now, so it looks like Samsung could well be playing the long game here. I also suspect the the clone like look of Tizen is not because it is familiar to potential customers, but because it is familiar to Samsung, they know it works thus they copy it.

  • They will continue to trot Tizen out at strategic points to give Google fits. Of all Samsung’s shenanigans – in all of their unpredictable goodness – Tizen has to be my favorite.

  • Samsung certainly know how to clone an OS.