“Us too”, said Samsung

Here’s a quote from Samsung Mobile boss Shin Jong-kyun:

“Not in the shortest time. But yes, our next smartphones will have 64-bit processing functionality,” Shin said, adding he followed the media coverage of Apple’s new iPhone.

I’m sure, in context, this is a reasonable response to a reasonable question. But as soon as I read this quote, in my mind I heard the followup, “and fingerprint scanning, too, we’ll have that, too.”

Just me?



  • Kip Beatty

    No, not just you. I’m sure Sir James Dyson thought much the same.

    • Mother Hydra

      bit of a bummer what is happening with Dyson right now. Will it actually make Samsung look bad ? Eh, probably not but it should.

      • Kip Beatty

        It’s been Samsung’s m.o. for years. They look at other successful consumer products and they clone ‘em. Phones, vacuums, refrigerators, etc., they don’t have an original bone in their collective bodies. But hey, it makes them money so why change? Losing a billion dollar lawsuit here or there is sofa cushion money against what they take in on sales.

  • Martin Johnson

    I call bullshit. Someone needs to ask Google where 64-bit is on the Android roadmap. Samsung can put 64-bit processors in their mega-phones all they want but without kernel-level and tools support it doesn’t mean anything.

    The 64-bit transition in iOS 7 is fascinating. The engineering effort required (unless they planned on 64-bit from the beginning) is huge and to do it while also completely revamping the OS is pretty stunning.

    • Dr.doom

      Mac os x went thru this transition so All API are 64 bit safe in IOS unless you are using third party libraries which require some work. Furthermore there such a thing as fat binaries So all developer has to do is recompile for ARM8 architecture.

      Java shouldnt have to do too much as it is a virtual Machine. Can’t say the same for C API for android or Linux drivers.

    • Sigivald

      Given that the Android kernel is essentially Linux (as are most of the tools), that shouldn’t be a problem.

      I’d be shocked if Google hadn’t already made a 64 bit internal version against android-x86 (thus android-x64, I guess?).

      • SSShu

        Thing is – i bet if they had it – they wouldve already flaunted it ahead of the time.

        • http://www.johncblandii.com John C. Bland II

          When has Google leaked in recent (past 2-3 years) hardware announcements?

  • Herding_sheep

    “64-bit processing” is irrelevant without the operating system/applications re-engineered as well. And thats entirely in Googles hands. Let’s see how well they can handle something like that. We saw how well Microsoft managed a 64-bit transition, who’s had MUCH more experience as a software company than Google.

    Luckily, iOS is OSX, so its using the same technology Apple developed for OSX when they blended 32-bit and 64-bit onto the same operating system version. I highly doubt Android is capable of similarly sophisticated tech. So we can expect an absolute mess of a transition, especially with the API fragmentation that even exists today.

    • Billy Razzle

      They don’t care. They can run an ad that says they have 64 bit processing. That’s all they care about.

  • http://mangochut.net/ mangochutney

    Nope, that was to be expected. I’m certain that in less than a year every major new smartphone will have a 64bit architecture, but whether OSs other than iOS will make good use of it, remains to be seen.

  • Sachin

    Finally Samsung has got idea for next galaxy smartphone…… P.S. see Samsung gear.. The so called smart watch You know Samsung & other smartphone needs to be called smartphone to make it feel that they are smartphone….

    iPhone itself is more than enough to realize ….

    P.P.S. look what they Did with s4 smartphone….simply had no clue.. But now they have…

  • SB

    dont be too hard on the followers. Thats the only thing they know to do:)

  • Moeskido

    “And gold.”

    • Mother Hydra

      you have to say it like this: GOOOOOOOOOLD!

      • Moeskido

        My mistake.

  • Mau Sandoval

    “yes, us too… just booting up the photocopiers” -Samsung

  • Mother Hydra

    Not just you. I pretty much assumed as much was inferred by Crayon Shin-Chan’s statement.

  • MrPhotoEd

    As I wrote earlier today in the comments for “Is iPhone 5S death-knell for passwords?”

    “Samsung, start your copy machines, it is time to “innovate”.

    Just a thought”

  • BC2009

    It’s funny because Samsung’s commercial for The Next Big Thing that depict the Samsung users bumping phones to share a playlist (rather than doing it wirelessly from a distance which is far more useful) shows the “Apple Faithful” person say “We’ll get that next year”. Samsung wants to portray that Apple is following their lead.

    In reality, Samsung has been following Apple’s lead for years. Apple completely ignored NFC because bumping phones makes you look like and feel like an idiot (especially when it does not work or takes 10 seconds to recognize the other device) and its not as convenient as using something like cloud-sharing, email, messaging or now AirDrop.

    NFC does the pairing between the devices, but having to actually bump phones is kinda ridiculous. Can you imagine running around a family gathering bumping phones to share photos rather than just uploading to Flickr, Facebook, Picasa or sharing via Photo Stream?

    I had “beaming” on my Palm Treo 680. I used it once to beam an app to somebody and once to beam a business card. I owned that phone for 3 years. Samsung must be in love with the Palm devices because they are getting all excited about beaming and styluses.

    With Samsung’s company motto of “Why Not?” it is certain that they will do everything that Apple and every other competitor does, eventually. They just don’t know which makes the most sense to do first.

    • http://www.johncblandii.com John C. Bland II

      Android has had file transfer options beyond NFC for a while. It isn’t as slick as iBeam (or whatever it was called) but NFC isn’t the only way.

      • BC2009

        I actually agree with you on that. But with all the great options on Android to let each app add itself to the Android sharing menu, it boggles me that Samsung thought that people would think it is cool to bump phones to share.

        NFC has its uses. It is awesome that you can make a hidden place in your home scannable to get on your WiFi network and just direct friends to scan your tag to join. It’s great that you can make the phone exhibit a behavior or perform a task when put in a location like a desk dock or car dock. Most users aren’t going to setup NFC tags like that, but if iPhone had NFC, you could bet I would do it.

        However, marketing NFC as a solution to file transfer pairing just seems silly. Even for that “private video” the wife gives her husband as he gets into the taxi. Sure you wouldn’t want to post that kind of video online or send in email, but at the same time NFC has vulnerabilities when used for pairing and who knows if that cab driver was downloading that video right along with the husband.

        • http://www.johncblandii.com John C. Bland II

          I have yet to see NFC “pairing”. It doesn’t do a permanent pairing and only works with the device immediately touching it so the cabby couldn’t download anything.

          And where it is cool to bump or not, it is by far the easiest. There is literally 0 setup required. Just touch phones, touch the screen to push the item, and move along. iBeam will be great, I’m sure, but it requires setting up friends, etc. I can’t give X to a random person I just met [friend of a friend or something] without setting them up.

          GREAT solution but it isn’t without its own flaws.

  • Lin

    I’m sure Sumsung’s working on copying everything, that’s their thing

  • http://www.twitter.com/invalidname realinvalidname

    What’s the point until and unless Google changes the Dalvik VM to take advantage of 64-bit? At the high level, Android is coded in Java, and all the numeric primitives in Java are hard-coded to specific bit depth (ints are always 32-bit, longs are always 64, etc). So aside from speeding up longs, this wouldn’t make much of a difference at the high level. For the lower level, it could be useful for native libraries (both in the system and native code in apps), but there’s presumably work to be done in enabling that, maybe coming up with a “fat binary” format for executables, etc.

    Also, at the end of the day, the biggest win of 64-bit comes from crunching large runs of data, like media or image data. iOS’ accelerate framework is built for this kind of stuff, and it shows in the various iOS media apps. Not sure how much this matters on Android (ie, whether apps like GarageBand or iMovie exist on Android, whether they’re any good, and whether Android users care one way or the other).

    • Billy Razzle

      What’s the point of any Samsung phone?

  • stevekellman
  • monkey

    Goes without saying!

    • SSShu

      We’d be fools to expect otherwise really.

  • nutmac

    Samsung Galaxy S5 with S Touch ID, S7 motion processor, S Tone camera flash, S Burst mode, S Slow-mo video, and in all new S Space Gray color finish.

  • http://www.johncblandii.com John C. Bland II

    Lol…I thought it too but The Verge had a post about it not being farfetched at all and several others are too.

  • Paul

    Is it me or did Motorola have a fingerprint scanner for one of their phones 2 years ago. Just saying

    • http://www.johncblandii.com John C. Bland II

      Motorola Atrix.

  • http://www.tumblr.com/blog/his-divine-shadow His Shadow

    “Not in the shortest time” is now how I answer any and all scheduling questions.