‘Not Apple’s Fault’

John E Sununu, former Republican senator from NH, for the Boston Globe:

Senator Levin and his staff believe that it is wrong for companies and individuals to engage in behavior that avoids taxes. They hoped that calling out Cook might generate support for legislation that targets companies like Apple. Instead, they mostly provided a lesson in the complex, convoluted, and often uncompetitive nature of America’s corporate tax code. They also provided a reminder that those responsible for the mess were asking the questions, not sitting at the witness table.



  • Brian M. Monroe

    I think all this does show is that there are no limits to the greed from Washington DC. If the senators are not happy with the way that companies are using the tax code, it is their job to change it. Thats simple. Anything else, just shows how stupid they are.

    • quietstorms

      The Republicans have blocked any change to the tax code in negotiations due to lobbyists (like Apple is going to be).

      I’m as much an Apple fan as any but I’m an American first. It bothers me that a link like this is appearing on Memorial Day when Apple, and every tax loophole abuser, is looking to pay less of a tax percentage than the average American.

      They have $150 billion in bank (two-thirds overseas) and I’m not entirely sure if they have any plan for it.

      • Brian M. Monroe

        I agree with you. If it is the Republicans that are blocking the change to the corporate tax code then it is an issue between the two parties. It is not Apple’s job or any other company’s job to pay any more tax than the law requires.

        • quietstorms

          My problem is not that Apple is using the laws to their own best interests. It’s that they, and the extremely wealthy, are lobbying to keep it that way. It ensures a system where only they can win.

          It won’t change because both parties are corrupt. The GOP just happens to get more money for this traditionally.

          • mdelvecchio

            you’re quite mistaken. cook and apple have said they’d be willing to import their foreign profits if e congress writes more reasonable tax rates for repatriated profit.

            that’s doesn’t sound like lobbying to keep it the same to me.

          • quietstorms

            Do you really believe that that they’d want a simpler tax code where they pay more taxes?

            Apple has been lobbying for some time for a tax holiday to bring their profits here.

          • lucascott

            Something tells me that Tim Cook wouldn’t have called out the shoddy tax code so blatantly if Apple is lobbying to keep the codes the same. Someone would leak that contradiction for a fortune if it was true

      • mdelvecchio

        it’s not abuse to keep profits earned outside the US…outside the US.

      • lucascott

        If they are following the laws it’s not abuse. Its exercising their legal rights

  • quietstorms

    I believe that Apple’s feet were unfairly held to the fire when they shouldn’t be the only company there to testify.

    However, there’s two things:

    1. This is a system that benefits the rich. Apple, from recent reports, is now paying more to lobby against such things as taxes. This is how the system is ruined and the average American cannot win.

    2. No one should ever quote Sununu. Doing this makes any argument feel desperate.

    • Brian M. Monroe

      100% correct. I do not see this as an Apple only issue. There should have been other companies that where on the stand to testify.

      This reminds me of the whole Foxcon situation when it seemed that everyone was picking on Apple when Sony and many other companies who use the same factories where getting a pass.

      In the end it seems that it is the American way to build a person or company up just to kick them to the curb.

      • Mitchell Sternbach

        What infuriates me most is that Apple once again is being singled out. Also, I don’t like agreeing with republicans.

        • Brian M. Monroe

          I agree 100%. Yet again, it seems to be that Apple is being singled out when others are doing the same exact thing.

          This is just like all the complaints about Foxconn and Apple when many others use the same factories and workers but only Apple is the one to have to answer to lies about working conditions there.

    • mdelvecchio

      can you link to any evidence that apple has done as you say?

    • lucascott

      “Apple, from recent reports, is now paying more to lobby against such things as taxes. “

      Based on an unnamed and therefore unverifiable source. That they ever lobbied anything, that they are raising spending, and that it ever had or will have anything to do with taxes.

  • lucascott

    So is Levin going to publicly publish his tax returns etc to show that he doesn’t use any loopholes etc