∞ Hate Windows 8 already? Grow up, loser

Mat Honan, for Gizmodo:

If you’re not intrigued by Windows 8 and Metro, if you can’t recognize that it’s a big leap forward, if you’re not excited about what it means for you, personally then you don’t really care about technology; you care about brands. You care about platforms. You care about politics. You’re a fanboy. Look, we all lean certain ways. I have my own set of preferences. I tend to vote for Democrats and buy Apple products. But that’s because they tend to support my priorities, not vice-versa. If the Democrats suddenly turned their backs on science, or Apple began pushing out products with buggy cluttered interfaces, I’d look elsewhere. I don’t really get those who treat brands like sports teams, offering blind allegiance over self-interest. That’s just zealotry. God bless that file system; my platform, right or wrong. The older I get the less I trust anyone who puts party or platform over the advancement of society.

I agree with Mat wholeheartedly. Use what you want to use – Windows, Android, OS X, iOS, whatever. Just stop being such a dick about it.



  • http://www.jphotog.com Hrunga Zmuda

    Just don’t be stupid and use RIM. :-)

  • http://www.jphotog.com Hrunga Zmuda

    Just don’t be stupid and use RIM. :-)

  • http://www.jphotog.com Hrunga Zmuda

    Just don’t be stupid and use RIM. :-)

  • http://www.jphotog.com Hrunga Zmuda

    Just don’t be stupid and use RIM. :-)

  • http://www.jphotog.com Hrunga Zmuda

    Just don’t be stupid and use RIM. :-)

  • http://www.jphotog.com Hrunga Zmuda

    Just don’t be stupid and use RIM. :-)

    • Peter Cohen

      Well THAT goes without saying. :)

    • Peter Cohen

      Well THAT goes without saying. :)

    • Peter Cohen

      Well THAT goes without saying. :)

    • Peter Cohen

      Well THAT goes without saying. :)

    • Peter Cohen

      Well THAT goes without saying. :)

    • Peter Cohen

      Well THAT goes without saying. :)

  • http://www.jphotog.com Hrunga Zmuda

    Just don’t be stupid and use RIM. :-)

  • Ewarren61

    I want all my devices to run PICK.

  • Ewarren61

    I want all my devices to run PICK.

  • Ewarren61

    I want all my devices to run PICK.

  • Ewarren61

    I want all my devices to run PICK.

  • Ewarren61

    I want all my devices to run PICK.

  • http://twitter.com/VGISoftware Daniel Swanson

    The only thing I hate is stupidity. It’s often been said that “Stupid should hurt.” Well I’m sure it does, but those in such a world often don’t realize just what “pain” is, as they’ve never been without it.

    At least some switchers to Apple might be realizing what it is to be relatively “pain-free” for a change.

  • Anonymous

    Nailed it.

  • Anonymous

    Nailed it.

  • Anonymous

    Nailed it.

  • http://twitter.com/zwei zwei

    Win 8 is looking better to me than android ever did. Probably won’t pull me away from iOS, but…

  • http://twitter.com/scottaw scott

    I think it looks good too. I just hope it’s not a pretty veneer over the typical frustrations that Windows brings. I am reserving judgement until it’s released.

    • Anonymous

      you really think Tiles is the answer to Grid Icons? I mean, the problem with icons is that it becomes ungainly to search 40+ apps visually. Organizing is still a pain.

      What we need is a universal Metatag system. so the apps can recategorize by themselves, and heuristically offer up the most used app in its category.

      Isn’t the point of next gen computing ease of use? I dont see how Tiles UI is any better than Grid UI. I really think they should scrap tiles. And the noninutitive settings gestures are pretty bad. who’s going to know that swipign like that gets you the settings? Who’s going to enjoy the non aysmetric actions between left and right swipe?

      I would steal iOS’s grid icon system, good for portrait and landscape, steal WebOS carousel like multitasking, playbook’s 7 inch dimensions and rubber backing, and steal Android notifications.

      • Ccap1

        Right on! There is no reason we can’t cluster these things automatically. Smart categories.

      • Misterlister

        “Who’s going to enjoy the non aysmetric actions between left and right swipe?”

        And what about us ass-backwards lefties?

      • Misterlister

        “Who’s going to enjoy the non aysmetric actions between left and right swipe?”

        And what about us ass-backwards lefties?

  • Steven Fisher

    I think Windows 8 is interesting, but I think calling it a “big leap” at this point is just as foolish as hating it. It has some great ideas, but if it can’t pull them off with competence the great ideas don’t matter much at all.

  • http://twitter.com/Carniphage Carniphage

    I hereby suggest everyone follows these words of wisdom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI C.

  • Ben Collins

    Am I allowed to hate it if I’ve tried it and hate it?

  • http://twitter.com/Moeskido Moeskido

    Wow, this was on Gizmodo? How long can this guy possibly last over there?

  • Anonymous

    Being dishonest and untrustworthy is antithetical to journalism, and why I don’t read Gizmodo anymore. In any case, I’ll look at Windows 8 once it’s out, it’s stupid to get committed to it before then.

  • http://twitter.com/KilianMuster ɹǝʇsnɯ uɐıןıʞ

    “The older I get the less I trust anyone who puts party or platform over the advancement of society.”

    Hmm if you’d really card about the advancement of society, you’d probably think that sharing knowledge is important and thusly Open Source would be the way to go? Just my two Yen.

  • http://twitter.com/KilianMuster ɹǝʇsnɯ uɐıןıʞ

    “The older I get the less I trust anyone who puts party or platform over the advancement of society.”

    Hmm if you’d really card about the advancement of society, you’d probably think that sharing knowledge is important and thusly Open Source would be the way to go? Just my two Yen.

  • http://twitter.com/KilianMuster ɹǝʇsnɯ uɐıןıʞ

    “The older I get the less I trust anyone who puts party or platform over the advancement of society.”

    Hmm if you’d really card about the advancement of society, you’d probably think that sharing knowledge is important and thusly Open Source would be the way to go? Just my two Yen.

  • http://twitter.com/KilianMuster ɹǝʇsnɯ uɐıןıʞ

    “The older I get the less I trust anyone who puts party or platform over the advancement of society.”

    Hmm if you’d really card about the advancement of society, you’d probably think that sharing knowledge is important and thusly Open Source would be the way to go? Just my two Yen.

  • Anonymous

    So, hating Windows 8 based on past history, in addition to seeing past the hype and realizing what a mess it’s going to be- after all, it Is Windows and all that it entails…. means we’re political fanboys because it’s not from Apple?

    Sorry we’re not as unbiased and visionary as you adrenaline addicts who need a new fix. How arrogant! Let’s see where Windows 8 is a year from now.

    • Weller Fan

      exactly!

  • Anonymous

    “Grow up, loser?”

    Does that sound like something an adult would say?

    • Weller Fan

      Sounds like something a super bombastic “let’s go and bomb Iraq, semi literate, gung-ho YANK” would say. Or someone who is 14 and has never had sex.

  • Cml

    Real artists ship, as Steve said, so ship MS and then we shall see.

  • http://twitter.com/kelli217 Kelli

    I don’t want to relearn how to use a computer’s user interface. I’ve been using GUIs that share the same essential characteristics since 1987 (it took me three years to be in an environment where I could experience them, but once I did, I did not look back). I don’t hate Windows 8, but I am highly skeptical of this new interface design as applied to the desktop.

    • Dfdg

      I hate the Clouding Way Of Life. Freedom vs Simplicity (stupidity) is not an option for me. All of that seems very clear to me. After the money, own the Spirit

  • His Shadow

    Meh. I could care less about Metro, or maybe it’s a “I’ll believe it when they release it” thing. As per usual, most of the discussions have devolved into assaults on Apple’s products because this OS and GUI which won’t ship for a year or more are somehow an immediate threat to everything Apple and Cook better look out. Or maybe I’m jaded, since we’ve been here before. Especially with the “iKiller” mentality still common in the press.

  • Rcroeder

    This based on two things change is good, and everyone will be on a tablet. As a software developer i see the potential of windows 8, however after using it for a few days, i will develop the software elsewhere. I would never try and use windows 8 as a tool. It is Windows Bob II. Most of my clients use my software on a pc. I cannot see my mechanical or PC Designers trying to use gestures to design equipment.

    Windows 8 is great for teh crowd of users that think of a computer a a toaster, and appliance to do something. A small swiss army knife of computers.

    If it does not change, it will go the way of Bob,ME and Vista.

  • Architekker

    Whoopee! Micosoft is just a virus infected program, who want that POS operating software anyway. I took my chances with vista and windows 7, still garbage. Apple is first and will always win! Bill Gates need to go bankrupt!

  • Joe

    I can safely say that I am not intrigued by the Metro interface whatsoever; I want to utilize a proper system, not a tablet, and not an Apple OS style interface. If I did – I would’ve bought and used a Macintosh desktop long ago, and/or a tablet. Due to these reasons, it’s actually not a big leap forward in this respect since these ideas are already implemented rather well by Apple.

    On the other hand, I am intrigued by Windows 8′s new features (and speed optimization like boot time shortening) and am looking forward to developing for this platform to see what it offers at its lowest levels.Mind you, if you care more for an interface and having it treat you like a moron by limiting what you can use, and limiting your access (or making it more difficult to gain access) to the internals of an OS, that’s fine. Not to say that the KISS principle is irrelevant, but I rather not feel like a child when utilizing a computer.As well, Mac cares about platforms (and cares that their target market of the simple computer users are buying their products like candy) – and you care about the Mac platform. “You care about platforms. You care about politics. You’re a fanboy.” To the irony of your statement – it seems you do very much, as well, and have concluded that you are a fanboy also. Not that there is anything wrong with being one or not. On the same note, it seems you also care about politics quite strongly: ” I tend to vote for Democrats and buy Apple products. ” Therefore I do not understand why your statements on such were absolutely necessary, or relevant.

  • Non

    mac user are ponces windows 8 sucks donkey balls fact

  • 1houndog

    As a systems professional for over twenty years, I can only say that the new Metro GUI suits tablets and such, but is totally unsuitable for mouse-and-keyboard application.

    This, more than ever, should send PC users back to XP, unquestionably the best ever to come from Microsoft. And the most useful.

    Phil Jenkins

  • Weller Fan

    What a moron. Who are you aiming this review at? Windows 8 or how you hate technophobes or people who are different to you?  I just don’t use a tablet, I like my laptop. The new OS looks confusing and isn’t for me personally, I will stick with Windows 7. And if you think that I don’t care then fine. I am pleased to annoy you.

  • guest

    I like a good portion of the commenter will be waiting for windows 9 when they realize the old way is better for PCs and the new way is best left for portable devices.

    This is not the next step in PCs, hell the PSP and the Xbox 360 have better interfaces than this and they’re both optimized for gaming.

  • Andrew

    Windows 8 would look better on anything else but the Desktop PC, imho.

    No, I’m not a fanboy. Wow, this OP sounds like an opinionated faggot.

  • Narg

    Jim, why are you such a dick about people being a dick?  Think about it…

  • narg

    I’m starting to see how Windows 8 will enter the World.  Calling everyone who used to love the old Windows losers?  Wow, what a World we’ve become.

  • Guest

    Mat Honan’s argument is invalid… and so are Jim Dalrymple and Peter Cohen’s.

  • guest

    Really….really? You realize Mat Honan’s short little statement turns back on itself and goes up its own ass right? First he says If you’re not excited about Windows 8 you can’t recognize a big leap…then he says if you don’t like it your a fanboy. I think he needs to re-examine the definition of that term…

    Windows 8 and its store are completely redefining the paradigm of a desktop computer. They take what iOS does and multiply it by 10–in the wrong direction. It makes multi-tasking a bitch, over-complicates the simplest of tasks, and throws organization right out the fucking window. Things Windows got right a long long time ago, and other OSes are still trying to catch up to. It’s all fine and dandy to have a neat little binder with your apps in it, and a storefront that has legitimized/authorized apps from Microsoft (also helping them bring in new revenue). But to make that the primary focus, and force it down the throats of everyone is just fucking stupid. That app view was created for a reason–touch screens, lack of need for extensive organization (few apps per user), and limiting hardware. Digital lives are complex; if you’re actually somewhat involved in the digital age you can’t box that shit up in a 9×9 tile. And there is a damn good chance Microsoft would attempt to leverage this technology in Windows 9 and force “legacy” apps off their platform that haven’t gone through the approval process for their store…look up the policy on getting applications approved; it’s pretty fucked up.

    Someone in the comments said Windows 8 gets some things right. Can we get a list please?

    For 14 years Windows has fucked up every other release of the Desktop platform. Do we really expect this release to break that trend? I swear it’s like some mystical business plan they have.

    Touch screens will never be the interface that trumps the mouse and keyboard in desktop computing, so there is absolutely no ‘need’ for this shit. Might it be nice for some people who have extremely simple digital profiles…sure, so have the fucking option. Some people might like getting raped in the ass–that doesn’t mean we should all be forced to pull down our pants and accept it.

  • draKM

    This person is where I am with Windows 8.x. Its crap. It sucks, and it makes me hate my computer where I used to love it. I get annoyed when juvenile idiots try to defend stuff they should not. Jim. You are an idiot.

    http://thatchickspotty.deviantart.com/journal/I-FUCKING-HATE-WINDOWS-8-357812639