∞ Anonymous, LulzSec, respond to FBI

“These governments and corporations are our enemy. And we will continue to fight them, with all methods we have at our disposal, and that certainly includes breaking into their websites and exposing their lies.“We are not scared any more. Your threats to arrest us are meaningless to  us as you cannot arrest an idea. Any attempt to do so will make your  citizens more angry until they will roar in one gigantic choir.”

They go on to say that they act like “bandits” because governments and big business forced their hand. The “society made me what I am” excuse is familiar to anyone who lived through the 80’s punk rock counterculture (or, heck, the 50’s greaser era). Does anyone over the age of 14 – or working at an emotional maturity level higher than a teenager – actually take these punks seriously as a force of positive change?

  • I don’t know whether these asshats are the particular asshats that will take us to the promised land, but at some point citizens do need to stop bending over the table, pull up our pants and demand that corporations and governments stop screwing us.

  • Anonymous is an odd bunch, as should be expected from an ad hoc group of people with no formal structure. Some of their efforts, such as their railing against Scientology, have been worthwhile. But the majority of their newsworthy efforts have involved misguided hacking of some form or other, and they mostly appear to be reckless flailing derived from some sense of entitlement or adventure. They view the government and corporations as “them” and attack those groups on that basis alone, which is simply immature, as you were apt to point out.

  • Their comments remind me of statements from the leaders of North Korea.

  • They are immature, and no surprise as that’s the type of people that often become this type of hacker. But they’ve also helped uncover some things that are in the public interest to know, such as some of the stuff HBGary and ilk were up to, which was basically to do illegal/unethical things to get government security contracts.

    While we don’t need a lot of the mischief that goes with this type of group, we DO need people willing to not take corporate and government word for everything and who occasionally expose things that need exposing.

    There is benefit to society to have a small amount of anti-authoritarian thinking, because everyone else just gets lulled to sleep and ignores the fact their government is taking away all their civil liberties and creating a surveillance state, which is exactly what’s happening in the US.

  • Anonymous

    Exposing government lies/corruption used to be the job of the free press, of journalists. The mainstream press has been co-opted – it is fully owned by corporate, commercial concerns. Although I don’t necessarily agree with their tactics, I have to admit that they (anonymous) are becoming the only source for some very enlightening information. BTW I also believe my personal politics aren’t relevant to my opinion of them. I think either end of the spectrum could see some benefit in their exposing corruption in the system.

  • Jimmyball

    Yes, as you should. They have your attention, they have my attention, as well as millions of others. This isn’t because we think they’re out to destroy good, but because they force those to reconsider the establishment and the lies and manipulations of governments and organizations taking advantage of us and threatening us in more ways then Anonymous or LulzSec could ever hope to or want to. We’re all frogs in a pot slowly coming to a boil. They’re just trying to turn the burner off.

  • Anonymous

    lol, these kids haven’t forced anyone to ‘reconsider’ anything, they just make headlines when the inconvenience us. A couple prison terms from the first round of arrest should shut the rest of them down.

  • Paul

    They might not be perfect, and they might sometimes operate in more “grey” areas than what we would like…  but they are at least doing something.