RIM issued a recall over the weekend for about 1,000 PlayBook tablets. Until now, we weren’t sure of the reason for the recall.
[ad#Google Adsense 300×250 in story]RIM’s PR firm contacted The Loop and said the recall was issued because of an operating system issue. It also wasn’t known whether the PlayBooks in question had made it into customer’s hands or whether they were still in distribution. RIM answered that question too.
“RIM determined that approximately one thousand BlackBerry PlayBook tablets (16 GB) were shipped with an OS build that may result in the devices being unable to properly load software upon initial set-up,” RIM said in their statement given to The Loop.
“The majority of the affected devices are still in the distribution channel and haven’t reached customers. RIM is working to replace the affected devices.
“In the small number of cases where a customer received a PlayBook that is unable to properly load software upon initial set-up, they can contact RIM for assistance.”
The fact that any given production run amounted to 1,000 units (and very likely that number was rounded UP from earlier reports) speaks volumes, or rather, attests to the lack thereof.
Not knowing the lineup (and frankly, my dear…) I’d have guessed that the 16GB would have been the low-end, for-the-masses model. Hmm. Extremely timid numbers. Are they building these by hand?
Somewhere, in a dark hallway or maintenance closet at the RIM headquarters, the CEO is curled up in the fetal position and sh!tting himself.
If RIM hadn’t been doing so much shit-talking in recent months, I could almost feel sorry for them.
I presume the number refers to the batch of devices equipped with this particular version of the OS. If that’s not the case, and this represents the whole number of devices shipped — not sold to customers — I’ll volunteer to help Jim write RIM’s Fuckeulogy™ (© John Oliver of The Bugle).
So different builds of the OS is being baked into the PlayBooks as they leave the factory? Not a very bright idea….. On the other hand, it seemed a bit unreal that if it’s software related, they could have fixed it by sending out updates. But I suppose if it’s a problem with the software update engine, it’s a moot point.
1000 Playbooks that were distributed to Staples stores is hardly a blip on the radar, its not even news. If the number were 10,000 or a million, THAT would be news. Or if it was poorly built such as the best selling phone ever that cannot even sustain a phone call, that would be a story…
If it was Apple they would not think of fixing it – they’d just cover it up with a plastic cover and call it a day, and, their f*nboys would simply love it! For that I give Apple credit.
Actually no. Apple would not just slap a cover on a defect that means you can’t actually start up the device. They would replace the units no questions.
1000 out of 1 mil might be a blip on the radar but if it was only out of 10k or 100k then you have an issue.
Case in point, that best selling phone where some perhaps 1% of users on ATT (and perhaps 0.001% users on anything else) that couldn’t make calls cause the carrier service in their area was utter shite, but there was nothing actually wrong with the phone. That might have come out to 1000 units or even 10k units but it was out of multiple millions
On the contrary. It is probably the same build but there were different components to it. And a batch or two skipped the last component and were boxed up and shipped. But without that component the rest of the stuff won’t load.
The AT&T iPhone4 issue effected all their phones not some tiny percentage, they were just poorly built. Apple acknowledged there was a problem with the antenna and offered free covers/cases just to hold the poorly designed antenna on the frame of the phone together.
Despite that, brilliant Apple marketing and hype somehow convinced enough people to buy it as such a high rate it became the best selling phone model ever. Not making that up, its actually a fact! A phone that has reception and call quality issues becomes the best selling phone ever? Hard to believe, but Apple somehow pulled it off.
I don’t expect the Playbook to be the best selling tablet ever, but I do think it will sell relatively well since it is a good product. I think too many jump on anything they can to discredit what is actually a very good tablet…
One CEO in a dark hallway, the other in a maintenance closet?
There’s that “somehow” again.
I actually have to admire how hard you’re working to keep that antenna non-scandal going. How many other blogs do you post this on?
Is what I am saying not true? Just pointing out that in comparison, 900+ defective Playbooks distributed to Staples is not that big a deal. Apple released a poorly designed product that a recall couldn’t fix, yet it still went on to be the best selling phone ever with I think somewhere around 10+ million users of it.
Back to the Playbook, best 7” tablet out there…
Exactly. So what does that tell you about the nature of the antenna “problem”.
Right. There isn’t one. Move on already.
No. This would never happen because a user could connect a unit to iTunes and get an updated or repaired OS. Because this happens every single day without a hitch.
If you can find a story that you didn’t pull out of your ass about a defect that Apple successfully “covered up” without being exposed, go ahead and link to it.
Or just continue to make things up.
Hey remember when they shipped the iPad without an email client… oh wait….
Right. The iPhone 4 antenna could be fixed by plugging it into iLoonyTunes. Maybe if you plugged it into your ass or your mouth (same thing), it might work.
As I was saying, f*nboys would simply love whatever Apple does to them.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????
Dude if you have problems figuring out which is your ass and which is your mouth we have bigger problems than the nontroversy which is the iPhone4 antenna issues. Food goes in the one up top and poop comes out the one at the bottom.
facts aren’t your thing, are they:
“Apple acknowledged there was a problem with the antenna and offered free covers/cases just to hold the poorly designed antenna on the frame of the phone together.”
The antenna holds together fine, with or without a case. Fact lose.
Second, Apple acknowledged that the “touch here and watch your reception go down” spot which *every phone on the market has* was on the spot that everyone says it was, and offered free cases for a limited time to help alleviate that.
But hey, why let FACTS bother you.
Actually, your statements don’t jibe with the facts as presented by third party sites like anandtech, who actually bothered to do some research.
dude, sockpuppeting yourself on this blog doesn’t make you more right.
But poop just came out of your mouth. You’re right. F*nboys sure are confusing (and confused).
We should also probably remember that Apple did do a product recall for the iPhone 4, remember when they set the Stasi on that idiot from Jizzmodo?
Hey I’m not trying to win any awards for being more right – just balancing out the viewpoint
Riiiight. Which you did by pointing out various issues with all the tablets. Oh, wait, no you didn’t, you just used this as an excuse to post factually-deficient nonsense
“Is what I am saying not true?”
What you are saying is NOT true. Apple did not acknowledge their was a problem with their iPhones. In fact, they made a point of proving the same “condition” applies to all mobile phones. The biggest issue is that there isn’t a standard method of presenting signal strength in terms of bars. Apple changed their algorithm for this bar representation and magically all is well. As a gesture of good will, they offered free cases for a limited period of time. That’s called good PR. Apple did not change the antenna design and yet the iPhone 4 happens to be the best selling mobile phone on the market. As someone that actually has one, I can tell you that not only does the iPhone 4 antenna (without a case) work well, but I can get service in places where my company supplied BlackBerry Torch will not get service on the same (AT&T) carrier. Really, this issue was debunked a long time ago and Consumer Reports has egg on their face for crying wolf. By trying to continue to push this non-issue, you simply lose any sense of credibility that would have been extended to you by default.
“Back to the Playbook, best 7” tablet out there…”
That’s not exactly saying much, now is it? That’s like saying the local little league baseball team is the best baseball team in your home town. That’s all well and good, but it doesn’t measure up to the big leagues.
Try to be nice to a f*nboy and this is what happens. To deny and ignore the fact that Apple covered the antenna issue by giving away a plastic cover is actually what is factually-deficient. This whole RIM-bashing thing you idiots have is actually what is nonsense. I don’t think you get the point – any little misstep by RIM is blown so out of proportion by you idiots, it is laughable. This is of course inline with your egos, which is also totally out of proportion.
We Apple enthusiasts love whatever Apple “does to” us because Apple has consistently (at least, for large parts of its history, including and especially the last 10 years) made available tools that were productive and a joy to work with.
We happen to be enthusiastic about the joy we get using these products. I’m also enthusiastic about the New York Yankees and about hobbyist photography. That’s because these things have made a positive and consistent impact on my life. They don’t for everyone.
That Apple products delight us is wholly different than we’ve come to expect from other companies’ products. Perhaps the venom that comes our way (venom when it’s in comment form, eye-rolling at its most benign) is from people that fail to understand and must discredit; or people that are invested in terms of time and habit in other platforms and are envious.
I think a lot of it has to do with one’s choice of platform somehow telling something about you personally. Attacking your choice of phone or of computer is attacking *you*. Apple played a large role — the dominant role — in fostering this kind of atmosphere: they used to tell that story. “Here’s to the rebels” and “The computer for the rest of us.” As the underdog, that’s what they had to work with, I guess. But it’s created this atmosphere of computers being a reflection of us as people, rather than tools. I’m disappointed it turned out this way. Perhaps it was a necessary strategy to enable Apple to survive.
I’m quite impressed by your Troll-Fu.
You’ve gone from misstating fact, to pulling lies out of your immensely large ass, to straight-out lying, to ad-hominem attacks and back to eating the shit you just produced in less than 10 replies.
As I said, quite impressive.
Now run along and leave this blog to the adults.
I respect your intelligent response, and this is by far the most intelligent response in this comment section and perhaps even in the all of the blog entries on this site I have read thus far, which I have to admit are not many.
I don’t take issue with Apple. They produce amazing products – they are sexy and simple to use, though not necessarily a great fit for business. I have even used and taught people to use Apple technology when I was a teen back in the eighties. Heck, I even have an iPad today and even gave my wife an iPhone as a gift a couple of years ago. I even had a Mac mini on my desk for a while. So, I’m well-acquainted with Apple products.
What I take issue with is how arrogant and self-centered some Apple “enthusiasts” (to use your term) have become. They seem to be blind to the innovation of other technologies (for example, how many here praise the PlayBook’s use of touch-sensitive bezel, which to me is an amazing innovation). They are so pigeon-holed into Apple’s world that they must go out of their way to defend, well, their way. The word that comes to mind is: cult.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with technological favoritism. Sure, choose your platform and fall in love with it. There’s nothing wrong with that. But, please if you must talk about something outside of your realm, at least be balanced.
I don’t agree that there is envy in the other platforms as you suggest, because they are great products in their own right, and they have their own following. The ones who are doing the discrediting appear to be the enthusiasts you speak of. And, to me this is very puzzling. If the products you are enthusiastic about are so great in your eyes, why must you then go out of your way to discredit another product? Does this not show some insecurity on the part of the enthusiasts?
An analogical question: if you have a beautiful wife, why must you then feel the need to tell your neighbor that his wife is ugly, who, in your neighbor’s view is every bit as beautiful? Is it not enough to tell your own wife that she is beautiful?
Thank you and again, I respect your post.
Defensive, aren’t we? And how about your egocrapnery? Having your other words and “adult” in the same post is laughable.
Are you under the impression that if you post enough name-calling, silly trash here you can get Loop readers to change their minds about anything?
Aww, did the mean man point out factual errors in your lame screed and make your vag all sandy? Wah. Wah. Wah.
You made statements that are not factually correct, and you sockpuppeted them to boot, (thanks for copping to that by the way), and you’re all upset that we’re not taking your side. Are you going to cry now? Will there be tears of sockpuppet rage? Come on, cry. Cry for us. You know you want to. Come on, squirt a few.
What’s wrong with this bloody dead horse? I beat, and I beat, and I beat and it won’t bloody GO!
C O M E… O N…, YOU STUPID NAG!
Now this one won’t go? I beat, and I beat, and I beat and it won’t bloody GO!
C O M E… O N…, WHATS WRONG WITH THESE STUPID NAGS!
You’re going to come onto an Apple site… Hey are you and Jth9234 one in the same?. Why don’t you two go hand-n-hand… err… sockpuppet-n-sockpuppet to a pub and play with your ‘Playthings’ together.
So Apple can admit there is a defective antenna, but that never happened? You guys are right in that Apple attempted to deflect attention by saying all smartphones if held the wrong way can weaken a signal, but did not “prove” it or show other phones suffered reception problems anywhere near the AT&T iPhone 4.
Its a known fact- AT&T iPhone4 was designed poorly with a defective antenna, Apple offered a free “fix” in a case to hold the antenna together. It was even suggested you use tape! lol All true.
There should have been a recall in that phone, but instead, marketing and hype have the masses convinced they have a great phone. Its a great iPod Touch, but a shytty phone…
The iPad when released had a slew of problems everyone ignored. At the time wifi hotspots phone functions or tether/pdanet apps were not as common as now and the first model was WiFi only, so you couldn’t realistically access email on the go.
But harping on the “client email” issue for the PB is a dead horse. You can access emails plain and simple. I now own a PB and wonder if the reviewers actually used this device? My biggest complaint is the Bridge Browser which desperately needs a software update, but critics acted like it worked without a hitch? They obviously didn’t spend any significant time trying it out…
So they are recalling all of them? How long is it expected for RIM to rework the OS to be in a usable state?
“The iPad when released had a slew of problems everyone ignored”
Name two.
Your weaknesses is showing. And that, is lame. The only rage I have see so far are from the f*nboys. And that, is lame.
I keep hearing “your facts are wrong” – well correct it. Otherwise, well, that, is lame.
I Already have corrected your “facts”. As well, when you’re sockpuppetting, and badly, you kind of lose all moral high ground to complain about anyone’s attitude towards you.
Man, you f*nboys love the word “sockpuppet”. What is with that?
Yes, I love coming to this Apple site for interesting articles about RIM.
Nice try, but while I was born at night, I was not born LAST night. You stated:
“Apple acknowledged there was a problem with the antenna and offered free covers/cases just to hold the poorly designed antenna on the frame of the phone together.”
The antenna never had a problem being “held together” on the frame of the phone. The problem was the reduction in sensitivity created if you touched a certain spot on the phone with your hand. This problem exists in every phone on the market. The “problem” with the iPHone 4 is that it’s easier to hit than most.
your “facts” were wrong. But then, it’s not like you actually care about the problem. you’re just here to make sure all criticism of the Playbook is blunted by criticism of a single device that you don’t like: the iPhone. Or is it just Apple in general? Funny how your “balancing” act seems to ignore problems with every other device, or even the playbook itself.
I’d not blink at all if you were a dual-layer sockpuppet who worked for RIM. Given their responses on other forums, yours actually tracks pretty well with theirs. Funny that.
yeah. it’s MUCH better to have to send your device back to the manf. for n days than put a free case on it. Oooh, BURN.
Um, again, your facts, they don’t jibe with reality. Hotspot issues are not in fact the same as being unable to get email. Regardless of any phone’s hotspot issues, the iPad worked well with WiFi, and, sans iPhone, I could easily use WiFi to get email with a full on IMAP client. Or Exchange ActiveSync.
How about you don’t use your Playbook with a Blackberry and try to get EAS-level email. Or do it on AT&T. Enjoy that.
You call THIS RIM article interesting? Geeze, you must have a low threshold. You’re just here in the blogs to sieve. Good luck with that.
Well, when you ARE a sockpuppet, we’re going to call you one. Stop being as sockpuppet, we stop calling you one. Simple, isn’t it.
What, balanced like you? All iPhone problems are HUGE INSURMOUNTABLE PROBLEMS and anyone who buys an iPhone is clearly a FANBOY WITH NO ABILITY TO SEE THESE HUGE INSURMOUNTABLE PROBLEMS.
All Playbook problems are minor, and should not even be mentioned because they are so minor and the device itself is effectively perfect. Because after all, any and all problems are too minor to count.
Yeah. Balanced.
I don’t expect that much from f*nboys. The last I checked it is a “Loop reader” who started the name calling and insults. And apparently Loop finds it acceptable for comments that mention things coming out of an ass rather into it, as they removed one of my comments. Just to repeat a portion of it (in response to “His Shadow”):
Can you fix the iPhone 4 antenna issue by plugging it into iTunes?
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3058659?start=0&tstart=0
There’s a f*nboy that doesn’t understand sarcasm. Whose threshold is low I wonder.
Just because you capitalise something doesn’t make it so. Anyways, from now on you ARE a s*ckpuppet f*nboy.
How the heck did you come to THAT conclusion? Actually, how the heck did you ever make it THIS far?
Read the release dude. For those that received the device with the issue, they just need to call RIM (to get it resolved remotely). The units still in distribution will be replaced.
Yes a free case will solve any problem, just like putting lipstick on a pig or hiding your head in the sand.
Your tone sounds pretty angry.
Last I checked, one of the “Loop readers” posted an insult first.
Check your beloved Apple discussion – the latest one about the white iPhone with antenna issues, which apparently according to some on here, you can just fix by plugging it into iTunes!
Erm hang on I’ll pick this up son semantically you’re correct but not really. The iPad 1 came with both 3G & WiFi models the 3G models if I am not mistaken came out 6 weeks later than the WiFi for whatever reason but to make out like this is an issue is disingenious as people knew both models were going to be available right from the start.
Client email is a massive mis-step especially for a company which revolutionised how many people including myself used to get their email. Now those same people are using iPads and iPhones…. RIM squandered their lead by becoming complacent.
Also I like how you say “…harping on the “client email” issue for the PB is a dead horse.” That wouldn’t happen to be the dead horse laying next to the iPhone 4 antenna issue one would it? That’s right STFU.
Also PB = Peanut Butter not Playbook.
You mean like the fact that people are still reporting white iPhone antenna issues on the latest Apple discussion board?
Your attitude towards me is just a reflection of who you are and your morals or lack thereof, so I have no need to complain about it.
No, not angry at all, but I won’t be shy with my opinions, as many of you aren’t with yours.
Glad you’re taking the high road.
Where is the Playbooks email client????? Sorry I thought we were done trotting out the trite points how can you sit there and keep harping on the same points???
John’s tone is quite fitting given the douchey responses you’re giving him.
It’s in all of your comments you fool.
No it did not. Because they were not poorly built. Even the Consumer Reports article mentioned ‘areas of poor service’ as a factor in there being an issue.
They offered the bumpers as a placebo nothing more or less. Jobs actually went so far as to almost straight up say “There’s nothing wrong with the phone but some of you won’t get that so we are going to toss a case at you that you don’t actually need because it’s quicker and cheaper than trying to convince you that you don’t actually know more than the engineers that work for us.”
You Sir are my hero for this morning.
mmmh… Peanut Butter.
Yet, “Pb” for “Playbook” sounds about right, because I bet it sits on retailers’s shelves like lead.
Let me get this straight:
You’re comparing the absence of ubiquitous cellular connectivity in a device that wasn’t designed to have it — the WiFi iPad — to the absence of a standalone email application in another device — namely the RIM Playbook?
I’d say you’re getting desperate, but in Fantasy Land these comparisons are probably valid.
Ahahahahaha! You really are of the clueless sort, are you?
Yes, his responses are just angelic. And like you don’t keep trotting out the same points. Please.
I don’t expect you to like my comments, but calling me a fool because I don’t agree. Now that’s real mature. More like real manure to me.
That’s awesome! It’s just tiring when the same people railing against our supposed hypocritical attitudes are doing the same thing they accuse us of.
It’s all just a bit precious really.
Love the Pb idea.
There’s a knob that doesn’t understand a pointy yet complimentary reason to end a conversation on a Apple site; OK?
And you’re simply a joke.
Just on this site because all of the posts and comments take such a high road.
It’s been fun stirring you fanboys up. Have a good night!
Alas, another example of the “don’t let facts get in the way of your prejudice crowd”…
As to “poorly built” or “design issues”. I got my (GSM – not ‘AT&T’) iPhone 4 shortly after it launched. Used it in the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Germany, Austria, Slovakia, Ukraine. Never experienced dropped calls, which I should if the hardware was faulty, as you claim. I recall Australian journalists reaching the same conclusion.
We’re calling you a fool because the stuff you write is stupid, makes no sense and tends to contradict itself.
Quite right there. Being in Australia this is an issue which relates solely to AT&T as Australian journalists did the same tests and found no issues.
So they are recalling all of them? How long is it expected for RIM to rework the OS to be in a usable state?
Wow, someone else with a different sign-on keeps mentioning that issue. You don’t happen to know eachother do you? I mean, you do post at around the same time on the same subject covering the same point of view.
You know, just like you did on this article: http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/28/rim-declares-amatuer-hour-is-over/.
Weird coincidence, n’est pas?
I never worked for RIM, just saying its amazing that a defective device can become the best selling device in its category, which is the case with the AT&T iPhone4. If you want to pretend the stuff I wrote never happened, fine, enjoy your delusional world, but it did happen. Or play with words that nothing was wrong with the iPhone4, its just …
The Playbook though, it seems like everyone here is rooting for its failure and don’t want to acknowledge that it does do many things as well or better than the iPad2. A recall of 900 devices most of which haven’t even been sold yet, is not a story. But people on here make it into one?
Playbook is not perfect, but it is getting there. I think people knock it for not running iOS, but the QNX OS is actually really good too. Its like if it doesn’t run iOS, there is something wrong with it in the eyes of Apple fans.
6 weeks later there was a 3G iPad1. You do realize the PB has not even been out that long, right?
The WiFi only iPad1 came out at a time where some criticized it for being a brick when you left a WiFi hotspot area and this was a fair criticism then since very few phones at the time had the hotspot or tether features for free like what can be done now with a little creativity.
Now since getting WiFi hotspots is easier with improvement in phone apps or if you want to be a sucker and pay the carrier extra to do something your phone may already be capable of, so WiFi only PB is very functional for most people in more areas than the iPad1 was at the time. Just a different time frame.
The email thing is also a non issue since you can access all your regular email on a PB when in a WiFi hotspot. Also why native email matters on WiFi only devices, I will never know, it seems like nitpicking on critics of RIM that are just looking for any reason to discredit an excellent tablet.
Also when the original iPad1 came out Cloud computing wasn’t as big as it is now, so the 16 gigs of memory was really all you had and couldn’t expand it. Now, a 16gig tablet could have unilimited memory usable in the cloud.
I think my biggest criticism of the iPad1 launch was that at the time it was an overgrown iPod Touch with limited memory and internet access. Those 2 things now are non-issues since things have moved so fast with WiFi hotspots everywhere, even on phones and cloud computing for expandable memory.
The email thing again? Do have your own ideas or need to be brainwashed by the shill media? WiFi only devices and native email would be the equivalent putting snow tires on your car while living in Hawaii. Yea, its a nice “just in case” feature, but doesn’t matter.
So you have native email, leave a WiFi hotspot, guess what, your native email is as useful as tits on a bull. But this is one of the biggest nitpicked criticisms of the PB? Oh Puleaze!
Overall the PB has the best display or speakers of any tablet out right now. Ignored by most critics. It plays flash sites which lets you surf all the sites on the web. Ignored. It has a more portable form factor. Ignored.
Face it, the media dropped the ball. The Playbook is an excellent tablet, depending on your preferences in form factor, it may jst be the best tablet out there.
Ahhhh blaming it on AT&T’s network again. Why is it then I don’t hear that from users of the Samsung Captivate or the Blackberry Torch? They came out around the same time frame and no one had reception problems like the iPhone4?
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What the fuck are you talking about? Any person who believes a WiFi-only device to be a brick when leaving a WiFi hotspot is utterly fucking stupid.
Surely those people must think a WiFi-equpped laptop is a brick, too, when not in reach of a hotspot.
WTF?
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The email thing is also a non issue since you can access all your regular email on a PB when in a WiFi hotspot. Also why native email matters on WiFi only devices, I will never know, it seems like nitpicking on critics of RIM that are just looking for any reason to discredit an excellent tablet.
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BWAHAHAHAHA, so then it’s just like a WiFi iPad, right?
Why native email clients matter? Because most email providers’s web interfaces SUCK, that’s why.
And how on earth did people get around with less than 64GB of Flash storage in their devices before now? WE NEED TEH KLAUT!
Your empty and false arguments are so damn hilarious.
I’m going to go ahead and give you some unscientific anecdotal evidence:
I have one of the first iPhone 4s on the European market, and I have never ever had any problems.
None. Zilch. Nada. Not one dropped call or data connection in almost one year.
I actually have stable data and voice connections in places that I couldn’t get any kind of connection with my iPhone 3GS or my Nokia E51 (which had better reception than the 3GS, to be honest).
So stop regurgitating this non-issue. Read Anandtech’s review of the iPhone 4 and its antennae, then come back.
So, having a native email client on my laptop — a WiFi-only device — is a just-in-case feature?
Do you even listen to yourself? Your stupidity makes my day.
Oh and with native email clients you can start drafting emails while not being connected to a network.
Then, when you reconnect you can automatically send the emails you’ve written offline.
Try doing that with a web interface that doesn’t cache locally, which to my knowledge only Gmail and MobileMe do.
Oh, I’ve tried Flash sites on the Xoom. I tried to access the Harry Potter movie site, to be specific.
The device didn’t show shit! It had the latest version of Flash for the OS installed, nothing running in the background and it still couldn’t handle such a giant applet.
You know what I can do with my iPad when I am not in a WiFi hotspot or have my iPhone tethered?
Write emails. I use my iPad both as a business device and a personal device. If for some reason I am out of cell reception or away from a network or my phone I can still write emails which will fire off when I come back into reception. Now you would think that this somehow supports your argument but it doesn’t because I am still getting shit done I am still emailing and working whilst out of those hot spots.
Show me how this is done without a native email client?
A few years back when I travelled through the US I had the misfortune of roaming on AT&T’s network and it blew hard….
I was using a Nokia E61 or similar.
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t there slight variations in chip sets to different carrirs using the same iPhone? Example Att vz. Verizon since their ads nitpick at each others perceived weaknesses. Att brags about multitasking and verizon brags about better reception. But Apple will market them as the exact same device. The chip set and antenna in the Att iphone4 is garbage, already widely aknowledged….
Just to add to my own comment, Verizon also isn’t known to be as good as AT&T as with international calling and using it in different countries. If you are using an iPhone4 in Europe, say with I dunno, Vodafone, wouldn’t the chip set have to be modified yet again since you may have a hard time using Vodafone in America?
So I still highly doubt it was ever just the AT&T network when there were issues with the antenna and also the device ending calls by holding it against your face activated the touch end call on the phone. Face up to it, the best selling phone ever was poorly designed. But hey, McDonald’s has served more burgers than anyone ever, but their burgers are not that good.
You’re wrong.
The AT&T iPhone is a simple GSM/3G phone, while the Verizon iPhone is a CDMA phone.
In Europe we only use GSM/3G based phones. So basically I’m using the same kind of phone AT&T customers use.
Just to reply here, too:
AT&T iPhone 4: GSM/3G
Verizon iPhone 4: CDMA
Every European carrier uses GSM/3G. There is no technical difference between an GSM/3G iPhone 4 sold in the U.S. and a GSM/3G iPhone 4 sold in Europe or any other country that makes use of this technological standard.
So your phone never hung up when you held it next to your face? That was another issue in addition to “antenna-gate”. Which BTW, independent of the antenna issues and its “fixes” was a problem in design when making actual phone calls on the touch screen UI.
Congrats, you bought the McDonald’s of smartphones!
Nope, it was an issue with the tuning of the proximity sensor in some phones. AFAIK it was fixed for everyone with a software update.
I never had this problem either, BTW.
Remember a thing called aircards or connect cards? Laptops for a some time relied on them to get internet service on the go, but now you can tether your phone’s data plan and avoid the costly aircard monthly bill will a little creativity. Same goes for tablets, depending on which phone you have and how you use it. The carriers in America do continue to rip people off by charging to use a feature for data sharing that the phones are fully capable of doing.
When the iPad1 came out, no aircard for it, tethering to phones for free was more rare than now, ditto for wifi hotspot phone features. So it was a brick in the WiFi model in most places, fair criticism at the time. But not any more.
Now the PB comes out lie a year later, different world, WiFi and internet connectivity is easier to get on the go. AT&T is currently blocking Bridge, for whatever reasons, but if Bridge ever becomes more functional rather than with work arounds, its a coup for the consumer over the greedy carriers.
You sound angry and defensive as someone who can’t handle someone who applies logic and intelligence to their electronic purchases rather than it just says “Apple” on it…
So I take it you don’t own a smart phone that can compose emails then? I have one that actually has something invented long ago called “keys” and a full “keyboard”. Writing emails on touch screen tablets, I highly doubt is why a single person ever bought one, time to move on to something that matters…
Also if you were serious about emails on the go, wouldn’t you already own a Blackberry? Which you can Bridge to the Playbook. A little logic never hurt anyone…
No it wasn’t, it still happens, it was how the phone was designed. Poor antenna, poor UI with accidental end call presses to the touch screen. The poor design is factual and is well documented. But when you have the deep pockets of Apple being the second largest publicly traded company in the world, marketing can do wonders. Its not poorly designed, its “magical” lol
there was no story on the iphone grip of death. stats and real world both confirm it — no big deal. as do the international sales of the iphone, where again nobody really had any issues.
What you wrote about aircards doesn’t invalidate my argument, it actually supports it.
Now that I think of it, I remember buying a 3COM 802.11b PCMCIA card for my old Sony laptop so I could connect it wirelessly to networks. This was way back, when laptops only had ethernet port, but no built-in WiFi card. Yet even then I didn’t think my laptop was a brick when I didn’t haven an internet connection.
Oh and another nugget here: I used the same PCMCIA WiFi card in my Compaq iPaq H3760 with the PCMCIA jacket. Holy shit that thing was a monster. 133 MHz and 32 MB of non-flash storage.
This thing didn’t have any kind of network connection without a cellphone attached via IR or cable and yet again, it, too, wasn’t a brick when not connected to the internet.
Oh, and it had a built-in email client.
Good times.
I’m neither angry nor defensive. But I resent being told that my buying decisions boil down to what kind of brand name adorns the device.
“I still highly doubt it was ever just the AT&T network when there were issues with the antenna”
so, is that in your *technical* opinion, or just your *i’m some anonymous a-hole on the interwebs venting on a mac site* opinion? please clarify.
until then, ill go w/ Anandtech’s opnion. which is quite, quite technical and measured.
hater fail.
wrong. unlike you, i own the phone. while the initiate build DID have the proximity sensor problem for some (myself included) a subsequent update fixed it.
the design is fine. the antenna is fine. at&t is not…which is why european customers never got what all the fuss was about here.
blinded-by-hate fail.
You feel that way because it hurts. I understand. Alright, if it makes you feel better calling me a fool, go ahead. Here’s a tissue.
wait, they fixed it? so if i have a Plybook dont have a BB, now i can receive push email on the device?
I have that as well but some times I like the extra screen real estate. Just like some times I like black coffee and sometimes I like white, I have options.
Still haven’t answered my question how can a Playbook user compose an email offline?
I am very serious about email, I used to own Blackberrys before I got my iPhone they were good but they got complacent and then the iPhone left it in the dust.
so your arg is because there are more wifi hotspots the Playbook is more useful than the ipad1? my god! you are so clutching at straws! get a girlfriend, dude.
my wifi-only ipad1 worked flawlessly everywhere i used it, which was nearly every day. its still in the house and used regularly today, despite the addition of an ipad2.
So you are all acknowledging what I wrote actually did happen and there was no recall? OK, so thank you for confirming that I was correct in saying Apple released a faulty product that had some major design issues and never did a recall. It did offer software updates and cases. All FACTS…
omg… you are delusional, kid.
i use native email ALL THE TIME on my tablet, because it’s a hundred times better than web mail. and it has push.
youre pretending its no big thing, because you have to. but you know it’s pretend because you dont use web mail on your BB, do you? nope. you use native email. fact.
what antenna issue? the one that doesnt exist on my (naked) iphone? or the one that never existed in europe? or the one that Anandtech debunked?
“your mom”
lol, your wife-jealousy is so transparent. 😉
Thanks for your reasonable response in return. After several years of observing the soap opera (and, admittedly, participating from time to time) I’ve had many thoughts about the psychology of it all. We (the generic “we”, not specifically you and I) can debate the merits of iOS vs. Android (vs. Windows Phone 7 vs. QNX vs. WebOS vs. anyone I’m forgetting); I would expect each side would have its own positives and negatives and also that each side would dwell on its own positives and others’ negatives; that’s only natural.
I’m interested in how we got here. Technology doesn’t have to be personal, by which I mean invested in personal favoritism rather than just one person using a given device.
(Note: I realize this is going way off topic from the original post. Apologies to Jim D and other readers. Too much momentum to stop now, lol)
I think there is a psychology that isn’t unique to Apple users but is circumstancial. Through the late ’80’s, ’90’s and early ’00’s using Windows PC’s was the default choice. I don’t think this was due to the nature of the PCs involved, but that it happened that corporations standardized on Windows — for reasons outside of the psychology I’m writing about here, but I’d say my own opinion as to why is pretty much in line with some form of conventional wisdom — so Windows became the default. Either you wanted to be consistent with work, or you became just invested in Windows because you had put time into learning the Windows way of doing things and so that’s what you knew.
Put another way: if you bought a computer but didn’t think too hard (or at all) about it, you bought Windows.
Put still another way: the population of Macintosh users was almost 100% made up of people who had thought hard about what computer they wanted. That’s not to say that everyone who thought about it chose Mac, but virtually anyone that did choose Mac did have to think about it. They were invested in the *choice*, the way most computer users weren’t.
It’s that kind of homogeneity that led to this identification of Apple users being “cultish”: they were all invested in their choice and were happy to share why, just like anyone is happy to talk about the things they know about and care about. In fact I’d claim that the opposite was true: that the millions and millions of Windows users from this era that didn’t think about their purchase were the cult, buying into Windows because that’s what society told them they should. We Mac users were following our own wisdom, no one else’s.
Some might say that Apple operates from a different perspective, that they market themselves as being linked with their customers in a very intimate (paternal?) way. I’m not sure that Apple is shielded from that dynamic though. When the iPod and iPhone and iPad came along, the shoe was on the other table, which was turned (thank you, David Fincher). Now Apple products became the default choice. Purchasing a digital music player that *wasn’t* an iPod was the “I thought about it” choice and for millions purchasing an iPod was the “I didn’t think about it” choice. We can *still* debate the merits of the platforms, but I think that’s beside the point. The iPod was the default in the marketplace.
The same has happened to iPhone and iPad. Android has great penetration, but I would argue that that is due to carrier availability. I would suggest that most users — users that don’t care to research the differences, which will *always* make up the vast majority — just want an iPhone, and that lots either were on a carrier that didn’t have it, or that salespeople would expose users to Android phones that were “just like iPhones.” iPhone now represents 5% of *all* cellphone purchases, not just smartphones (don’t remember if that was US only). And iPad represents virtually the entire market of tablet sales.
So now it’s the Android (/QNX/WebOS/whatever) users that are homogeneously the “thought about it” crowd.
Yet still there is a popular (within the tech-aware crowd) identification of Apple users as “cultish”. It can’t be both ways: either we were cultish when we were the “persecuted” minority, or we are cultish because we’re the “spoiled” majority.
Unless I’m just totally, completely wrong and this is about something specific to Apple’s culture. I don’t believe that the “don’t think about it” crowd is even aware of that, cares about walled gardens or openness or even knows what Steve Jobs says. I don’t think I am, but it’s certainly possible.
dude, youre 12. and you sockpuppet. you lose. match.
no, they feel that way because youre a blithering fool. sorry i dont know you from adam, but the stuff you write is mental. and you used a sock puppet.
simple. because there are too few users of those devices to hear much about how many much-less dropped calls they get. fewer users, fewer dropped calls, less news story. more users, more dropped calls, bigger news story.
er, writing emails on a tablet is MUCH easier than w/ thumbs on a mobile. especially if you use a physical keyboard like i do on my ipad.
that isnt logical. logic would dictate that a device sold stand-alone would perform all of its functions, stand-alone.
proof — in the future RIM *will* release a stand-alone, native email client on the playbook. when they finish building it, which was not launch time.
wow – that’s all I have to say to that kibbles n’ bits – both represent the size of your brain.
Your comment speaks to your own maturity or lack thereof.
Or the one reported a couple of days ago on the Apple discussions board by a user (thread #3058659).
Again, your comment speaks to your lack of maturity.
You guys are ignoring the facts, again. More and more phones have work arounds now to share data for free via tether or hotspot than they did just a year ago, when the iPad1 came out. Agreed?
When the iPad1 came out it relied more heavily of actually being in a WiFi hotspot rather than having a device to share data off of. Agreed?
When the iPad1 came out cloud computing did exist, but it has expanded quickly in just a year. Agreed?
Many of the flaws I am pointing to at the launch of the iPad1 had more to do with limits on how you connected to the internet with it at the time which believe it or not was just 1 year ago. But it did launch with complaints of lack of apps, which happens with every new device.
The PB is coming out at a time where getting WiFi is much easier just a year later. Cloud computing is bigger and better. Things that plagued the iPad1 launch, aren’t relevant any more with the PB launch except for lack of apps. But since it does run any site even Flash sites, even without the convenience of an app designed for a tablet/smartphone, it can browse the real site, so its not that big of a deal as it was on the iPad1 launch.
So wait if email was that much of integral part of your life, wouldn’t you own a Blackberry smartphone instead of an iPhone or an Android based phone, since it does still do emails, messaging, and notifications the best of them all? And under that line of thinking, if you already own a Blackberry, then the Playbook is perfect since you can Bridge it?
Use some logic to cure your madness…
Logical? You guys make it sound like you need real time emails, notifications, and messaging. If thats an integral part of your lifestyle or work or both, shouldn’t you already own a Blackberry and not an iPhone? Wouldn’t it then be redundant for a Tablet that Bridges to that phone to do the same thing?
And that wouldn’t be some niche user since there are 50 million BB users out there…
RIM is doing that, but I think to shut up the critics more than anything. No matter what they do, haters are gonna hate…
At least I have a wife, unlike many here I suspect. lol
Joking aside, I see the point you are making. In summary, you are pondering whether a “cult” is really a “cult” anymore when it becomes mainstream. I believe it then becomes a religion. From this angle, you are right – when the perspective changes and the majority starts to follow a cult, it is no longer a cult, though there will always be extremists.
I believe your point is also that, like many religious followers, people follow not necessarily knowing why, but simply because everyone else is doing it, such as people using Windows simply because that is what everyone else is using it. This is psychology of the masses.
Unfortunately, within a religion it is hard to be objective about other believe systems. That is what we have witnessed with some of the Loop readers who have surfaced here. And, I would agree this was witnessed with Windows users “persecuting” Mac users in the past. Whether extremists or not, their views have become one-sided and very homogeneous. This is evident in some comments here who refer their insults to me as “we”, as if each one individually speaks for the whole group, the whole religious order.
This loss of objectivity is what I am most disappointed about.
And why do you want me to leave so much? Does my presence make you uncomfortable? Did I comment on the Apple articles on the Apple site? I don’t think you see the point.
Ok, I broke down and will respond to this one. You’re an idiot.
You didn’t read or comprehend what he said. (Simple English) Bought a PB only to find out MANY promised features DON’T WORK. Have to wait. Why didn’t they tell me at first?
Time to ‘sideload’ unauthorized copy of bridging software -might void warranty thou.
You must work for Apple and he must work for RIM. Where is the Android dude 🙂
So why buy an Ipad at all then if you carry a cumbersome keyboard with it? For the same price you could get a really solid laptop. Once again, you simply don’t apply logic…
Never loaded it to the Playbook. Loaded it to the BB Torch OTA dl on its browser when AT&T blocked it on the app store. The Playbook has the Bridge stuff in it already ready to go on any BB that uses the app.
So if you had a BB and I had a BB, we could both bridge the device and take turns on its use, no limits there. I really don’t know what would happen if we both tried to Bridge at the same time though? If you own a BB and walk into a Best Buy or Staples and they let you try it, you can bridge it in the store, no restrictions. It can’t void the warranty, so I am done dropping more knowledge there.
I think I know what the problem is, you guys never tried out the PB and have no idea what I am talking about. You are in your Apple cocoons and are afraid to try anything not Apple.
You read or watch inaccurate reviews that nitpicked the wrong features that work well and mull over things that don’t. Example did anyone in any review knock the Bridge Browser or the blocked Netflix or Hulu sites at launch? I didn’t see any reviews like that, you know from people that used it for more than 2 minutes and went in with an objective view rather than the “its not iOS” bias I saw everywhere.
Basically here is a short review from someone who has been using it.
– Bridge works well for everything except web browsing, that definately needs a software patch.
-The button complaint is unfounded, works great and can put the device in sleep mode to save on the battery life, great design there and doesn’t accidentally turn off when you press it quick, like holding it with one hand. You press down for a second to hear a click and it turns the device on or puts it on a sleep mode. To turn it off you do hold it down longer, but I use the touch icon to turn the device off, everything works great together there.
-Hulu and Netflix are blocked, but many other sites do work like Crackle. Also Youtube movies and Amazon HD cloud Player work perfectly right now. The Amazon one is big, bc you can put all your MP3’s on your device very easily without using any real HD space on the device.
-The screen resolution and speakers are the benchmark for tablets out right now. Simply put, simply the best.
-The regular web browser works perfectly, any site on the internet appears just as it would on a laptop or desktop. Simply put again, simply the best out there right now.
-Apps are still sparse. Certain sites would benefit from app versions since they were not designed for a touch screen interface on a 7” screen, but even without an app, you can always view the real sites. So lacking apps is less of weakness on this tablet, but nontheless, still a slight weakness is UI. But it does have some key apps already like for Facebook, Weather, Slacker, Youtube, etc.
-The QNX OS with the bezel controls work great. Even stuff no on the screen like the frame is in play as touch controls. It does things a bit differently than iOS, but definately gets things done well. iOS works a little more smooth, since I did notice a few bugs at launch, but after one software update it is improved, another one perhaps to fix the Bridge Browser that no other tablet can currently do right now anyway.
-Emails work off of sites when in WiFi, or Bridged to a BB. No native email to write things offline, but if this was so urgent, wouldn’t you already own a Blackberry for real time emails and notifications? And if thats the case, Bridge works well for emails.
-The multitasking is better than any other tablet, but could still use improvements. Example, I can go to Amazon Cloud HD to listen to music, but if I go play NFS or check the weather or Facebook, the music goes off, until I go back to that screen. So its not flawless, but still better than anything else out there.
Again, you stated the problem was with the antenna being “held together” on the phone. That is incorrect. Completely incorrect, yet you insist on stating that was the problem. So, you’re either deluded or lying. It’s up to you, but your statement is provably incorrect.
That’s not a chipset issue, that’s an issue with CDMA as implemented by Verizon.
Do you actually know anything about these problems, or just let random words come out of your keyboard, and state them as fact.
Nonsense. I’ll provide a ‘fact’ as good as yours. Never happened to my wife’s iPhone 4. Oh look, more anecdotes. Let me guess, you’re not involved in either sciences or engineering, are you.
if it was fixed by a software update, then it was not a major fault that would require a recall. Recalls are only for things that cannot be fixed in the field. Can’t have it both ways.
A wifi device doesn’t work without Wifi. Imagine that. Note that no one has bagged on any WiFi-only tablet for only working on WiFi. That’s your own little strawman there sparky.
As well, the email thing IS an issue, since webmail, the only way to get email without a Blackberry does not have the same featureset as a full email client. In addition, you also don’t get:
contacts
calendaring
and those are DEFINITELY crippled to the point of uselessness in a web client only configuration. It’s rather hard to pop appointment reminders unless you have the web interface to your calendar running all the time. Oops.
and if you’re going to try to push the meme that Cloud Computing was somehow nonexistent in 2010, then you have absolutely no clue about the state of technology.
Actually, cell card rates are comparable with cell phone data rates, (I manage rather a lot of cell cards and mifis, I have actual data on my side here.)
Also, carrier actions have absolutely nothing to do with the PlayBook’s problems or lack thereof, other than perhaps highlighting the weakness of total reliability on a BlackBerry for full functionality.
you sound like someone who is speaking from a RIM PR manual, and has no understanding of technology beyond what you hold in your hand.
“You guys are ignoring the facts, again. More and more phones have work arounds now to share data for free via tether or hotspot than they did just a year ago, when the iPad1 came out. Agreed? ”
Nope. Tethering is not even vaguely new. I used to do it with a Sprint PPC-6601 and my PowerBook via Bluetooth all the time. Verizon’s always been assholes about it, but that’s verizon. In any event, no, your statement is incorrect.
“When the iPad1 came out it relied more heavily of actually being in a WiFi hotspot rather than having a device to share data off of. Agreed?”
A WiFi only device requires WiFi to get on a network. A device providing WiFi services is a hotspot. Period. But keep moving the goalposts, you’re ten miles outside of the stadium at this point.
“When the iPad1 came out cloud computing did exist, but it has expanded quickly in just a year. Agreed?”
No. Actually, the only major expansion in cloud computing has been the number of vendors. Implementations since 2010 have stayed pretty static.
“Many of the flaws I am pointing to at the launch of the iPad1 had more to do with limits on how you connected to the internet with it at the time which believe it or not was just 1 year ago. But it did launch with complaints of lack of apps, which happens with every new device.”
So let’s see here, you’ve now moved from the iPad shipping with MAJOR FLAWS, OMG to the original release only supporting WiFi. Your argument changes more than Stevie Nicks.
“The PB is coming out at a time where getting WiFi is much easier just a year later. Cloud computing is bigger and better. Things that plagued the iPad1 launch, aren’t relevant any more with the PB launch except for lack of apps. But since it does run any site even Flash sites, even without the convenience of an app designed for a tablet/smartphone, it can browse the real site, so its not that big of a deal as it was on the iPad1 launch.”
Nice try, but you’ve no actual proof of this. WiFi tethering was actually quite huge in 2010, because of, you know, LAPTOPS, and was actually easier then, because the carriers hadn’t started clamping down on it as a major revenue stream. Given current carrier restrictions, one can argue that tethering is more difficult NOW than it was in 2010.
Email is kind of important. So is calendaring and contacts. That would be the reason EVERY REVIEW harps on that issue. But I’m sure in your head, no one really cares about those things.
also, so, there’s no reason to include an email application on a wifi only laptop right? And of course, you have no WiFi only devices with mail clients, because hey, why waste space, they’re useless.
Blackberries only excel at email if you want to spend the money on a BES, and you want all your email controlled by a central server farm somewhere else.
If I want my email controlled by a remote server farm, I can just use Google, and save money on the BES.
If you aren’t a BES customer, then the Blackberry’s email, not so hot, especially if you need to properly handle email that’s not text only, or custom IMAP setups. Five years ago, BB’s were really excellent. They’re still living in 2005/2006 and the rest of the world got better. so, outside of a BES, it’s a wash. If you have a decent Exchange ActiveSync implementation, the reason for a BES is even smaller.
Oh nice try on the moral high ground, but you keep pushing incorrect statements, like how the iPhone 4 needed cases to help hold the antenna on the device.
That’s incorrect, but you keep going with it. Like I said, you’re either delusional or lying, pick one.
he’s simply using your tactic, only with better facts. don’t you just hate that.
You don’t actually know what a sockpuppet is, do you.
it’s simple. Every problem you’ve pointed out with the iPhone 4 or the iPad are HUGE AND INSURMOUNTABLE PROBLEMS and only morons keep buying those devices because they have HUGE AND INSURMOUNTABLE PROBLEMS.
Every problem someone points out about the PlayBook is minor, or doesn’t actually exist except in the minds of Apple Fanboys.
that’s what you’ve done in pretty much every comment.
When has The Loop ever claimed to be an objective, vendor-neutral technology site?
If you want that, i recommend Anandtech or Tom’s hardware.
not if you’re on AT&T you can’t.
actually, every review has pointed out the browser is kind of crashy.
Also, do tell me how you get event reminders with a web-only client unless you leave the web browser running constantly, AND on the correct web page AND you’re in range of a WiFi hotspot?
You either can’t read or have comprehension problems, or both.
That’s hilarious. Sorry I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings by being mean to your special friend.
Sure I do… it’s you.
Oh I know this site is not objective, and that’s why I like to show up here every so often. If it is an issue for someone to come to an open forum and provide an alternative view, even if only on articles written about non-Apple products, then perhaps the site should be a members only site, where it can preach to the converted all day long, without being bothered.
I never blamed the carriers on Playbook problems, which are not as great as the Apple fanboys make them out to be. As I have already pointed out, the iPad1 had far more problems when it came out, but people still bought it in droves and it took several months to remedy those problems.
Also a Blackberry is not needed for “full functionality”. It just adds the Bridge feature, which BTW, no other tablet has. You need a BB for that extra functionality, otherwise it does things just like other tablets, just with the best display and sound and flash, but hey who cares about using the best product?
Sorry, your Apple fanboyism is clouding your judgement on a Tablet that actually is better than the iPad1 or 2 in many ways. At least ackowledge whether you honestly thing the PB is better, it does many things better than any iPad right now! If you cannot acknowledge that, you are just a fanboy with no logic or objectivity…
If email is THAT IMPORTANT to you, you would own a Blackberry phone and not an iPhone or Android phone. Am I right? Yup.
If the efficient use of email in real time notifications is not a high priority, you would probably own something other than a Blackberry! So assuming you own a Blackberry bc YOU MUST HAVE THE BEST POSSIBLE EMAIL ON THE GO AT ALL TIMES IN REAL TIME, then the PB with compliment it well.
People that buy phones as toys for farting apps or Netlfix apps on 3 inch screens or for the “coolness” of no buttons, proably could care less about native email. So stop pretending you Apple fanboys care about this, if you did, you would own Blackberry phones to beign with, so its a moot and illogical point…
So you honestly think Android phones do emails better than Blackberry phones? I have a bridge to sell you…
Its not for emails or calendars. It works great, it sux on Bridge Browsing, think dial up AOL in the early 1990’s, needs a software fix for that. You abviously never tried it and are reading or seeing half assed reviews.
So I take it you bought an iPad2 just for this feature? Yea OK.BTW, back to the title of this thread, 900 recalled PB’s most of which never got into customers hands, yet they sold 250,000 in 28 days…
Yes you can. For someone who acts like he knows everything about tech you are pretty ignorant, but then again you are getting your info from some half assed reviews.
Its called an On The Air (OTA) download, which just means you dl it off the standard BB web browser. Its not in the app store, AT&T removed it and blocked it but is on the internet with a link. It dl’s the app to your BB and the Bridge is then enabled without a hitch. The light on the BB that normally flashes a default red for messages, emails, updates, flashes a light blue while in use.
It works fine, except for the Bridge Browser which is unusable, its terrible slow and has errors all the time. Fix that, it works fine…