∞ The truth about Android vs. iPhone market share

There is an endless stream of reports coming out these days about how Android stacks up against the iPhone. The problem is, most of them are flawed.

[ad#Google Adsense 300x250 in story]Here is the first giant flaw — you may have noticed in the headline of this story. You cannot compare Android to an iPhone. That’s comparing an operating system to a hardware device.

There is no compelling argument that anyone can give that says that comparing an operating system to a hardware device makes sense. None.

We don’t see reports of Windows 7 being compared to a Dell computer and then making assumptions about market share based on their sales. Why? Because, that would be stupid.

That would be like comparing one model of Mercedes against all cars that GM makes and saying the Mercedes is losing. It just doesn’t make any sense.

You can’t have it both ways. You either have to compare hardware devices or operating systems, you can’t mix and match.

There are currently six manufacturers — Dell, HTC, Kyocera, LG, Motorola, and Samsung — making 42 smartphones using the Android operating system.

So how does the iPhone stack up against one of these phones? Let’s take a look at the Motorola Droid.

Motorola says it shipped 13.7 million smartphones in 2010. The company didn’t specify Droids, but we’ll count them all anyway.

In comparison, Apple shipped 47.49 million in 2010, outpacing Motorola by more than three times.

Now, let’s take a look at the operating systems in the U.S. According to reports released this month by comScore, if you factor in all of the devices that use iOS including iPhones, iPads and iPod touches, Apple reached 37.9 million people. Android, according to the data, reached 23.8 million on phones and tablets.

That’s a 59 percent lead for iOS over Android.

In Europe, Apple’s iPhone, iPod touch, and iPads have a combined installed base of 28.9 million users. Android’s user base is at 13.4 million users. That number includes phones and connected media devices like the Samsung Galaxy Tab.

That gives Apple a 12.4 percent share of the market and a 116 percent lead over its Android counterpart. Google has 5.7 percent share of the market.

That is the truth.



  • Coward_the_Anonymous

    Ariticle is correct about topic, but everybody knows (without saying) that media compare Android smartphones to iPhone. People who does not know the difference are not interested in information or information is not revelant to them i.e. my mom. She does not know what is compared with, she does not care any way and it does not influence her decision too (since she did not understand the information).

    • Coward_the_Anonymous

      My first sentence supposed be (to make it more clear what i meant): Ariticle is correct about topic, but everybody knows (without saying) that media compare Android smartphones to IOS smartfones (=iPhone).

      • http://profiles.google.com/reubenbijl Reuben Bijl

        I disagree with this. I think your mum is more likely to compare buying an iPhone to a Samsung phone, or a Droid. I don’t think she cares what OS it is running. Sometimes I see people with Android phones and I ask them what apps they have, often they don’t even realise their device is an Android Device. Contrast with the iPhone, most people also don’t know that it is running iOS, but they sure know they can download apps, and the apps they have vary by so much.

        • Anonymous

          Consumers do not know what an “operating system” is and they do not know what a “Web browser” is. Most iPhone users have never even heard the word “iOS” let alone do they know that is the operating system on their phone. Many consumers do not even know the name of their phone or the manufacturer of their phone. They might be able to tell you the carrier, for example “Verizon,” and that’s it.

          So when people buy a Samsung phone, it is not because it runs Android.

          • Cabarete007

            So true, I sell VZW phones and do you know how many people say, “so its this Verizon or a Motorola?” I end up correcting them and letting them know, Verizon is your carrier not the phone manufacturer. But a lot of people have no clue or care who makes the phone.

          • Erica

            This is all so not true in my experience at all. I work for a canadian acrrier and my xustomers almost always know what they want when they come in. Android, iOS, or BlackBerry. Maybe Canadians know how to do thier homework a little better or something, but to all my customers, the brand just gives them the bells and whistles kinda stuff…camera with flash, size, screen reolution, shape, touch screen, physical keyboard, whatever. If someone wants an Android, they pretty much just choose the newest one or a brand they trust (many choose Samsung becuase thier last 4 phones were Samsung and they love them). I bet if iOS came built into different devices they would fly off the shelves.

          • qna-iq

            erica is blackberry an os?

          • RickTroll

            Canadians are weak

          • http://twitter.com/TechieNewbie Anudeep

            Well that’s not entirely true there are people who still buy phones by looking specs & o.s of course there are people who buys phones b’coz one of their friends or relatives brought it but it doesn’t mean that every one buys like that

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-DeWaal/556707547 Don DeWaal

            And when people by Apple it is because they have much more money then sense buying a proprietary operating system controlled solely by the big apple

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  • Jim

    Market share goes by the OS. Hence Mac having low market share, because it goes by OSX compared to windows,etc. So Android can be compared because when you ruining of iPhone its really iOS. So I disagree Edith this article.

    • Anonymous

      You’re still missing the point. Did you read the article?

      • Canucker

        He didn’t, but maybe Edith did?

    • http://twitter.com/ganson ★Garrick★

      OS market share goes by OS. Hardware market share goes by hardware.

      You need to read the article again.

      • Edzactly

        … and undermine his belief?

      • http://getyourgadgetsgoing.com Tristan Thomas

        What about smartphone os marketshare? Because that’s what’s being measured.

        • Anonymous

          The first problem is that there is no such thing as a “smartphone OS market.” People don’t go out and buy a smartphone OS. You can’t take a phone to a store and choose iOS or Android for that phone.

          The second problem is that even when you pretend there is a “smartphone OS market” you are very likely to mislabel that “smartphone market share” compare Android to iPhone. Actual smartphone market share would be expressed in terms of smartphones. You would say “Motorola Droid has 3% of the smartphone market,” or “Apple iPhone has 25% of the smartphone market.”

          But the main issue is that “smartphone OS marketshare” is a meaningless metric. It contains zero information. But wait, you say, it would tell us how many developers would make apps for iOS phones or Android phones! No, it would not. It would only do that if iOS apps only ran on smartphones, and Android apps only ran on smartphones. They do not. Even if they only have a small interface, they still run on iPad and iPod touch and XOOM and Galaxy Tab and Nook. None of which are smartphones. But a developer doesn’t care if you buy their iOS app on an iPhone or iPad, they make the same money. They don’t care if you buy their Android app on Droid or XOOM, they make the same money. Therefore “iOS marketshare” versus “Android marketshare” has some meaning, but limiting your view just to smartphones is meaningless.

          Another way to see that “smartphone OS marketshare” is ridiculous is that all Android phones do not necessarily run the same apps. For example, Angry Birds runs on less that 50% of Android phones. So even if there are more Android phones sold today than iOS phones, most of the phones that can run Angry Birds will be running iOS. And Angry Birds does run on Galaxy Tab and Nook. So “smartphone OS marketshare” is completely meaningless with regards to what is probably the single most popular 3rd party smartphone app. The developer of Angry Birds cares about devices that can run their app. They care whether that device is running iOS or Android, they care that the hardware has the capability to run their app, but they do not care at all if that device is classified in the smartphone, tablet, or media player markets. They will favor a tablet that can run their app over a smartphone that cannot.

          Another way to see that “smartphone OS marketshare” is ridiculous is to look at the iOS and Android OS online remote app installers, where we can count the number of apps and downloads and revenues and we can see that in revenues, Android not only is not #1, it is #4. Both Symbian OS and BlackBerry OS have higher app revenues than Android. In number of apps, Android is not #1, it is #2. Even in downloads it is not #1, it is #2. If “smartphone OS marketshare” had any meaning, why isn’t Android #1 in app downloads? It is not even a close second. It is way, way behind iOS.

          So just as Jim said, there is no compelling argument for comparing an operating system to a single device. Compare Apple to Samsung (phone manufacturers) or iPhone to Droid (phones) or compare iOS to Android (operating systems) or admit you are trying to fool someone.

          The really sad thing is that there has never, ever been a time when iOS apps only ran on smartphones. iPhone and iPod touch came out in 2007, and App Store launched in mid-2008. The very first iOS app ran on both smartphones and media players. Android did not debut until late 2008. The first Android phone met the second-generation iPhone and second-generation iPod touch in the market. So not only is there not now a correlation between “smartphone OS marketshare” and developer support, there never, ever was a correlation. Device-wise it is iPhone versus Droid, iPad versus XOOM, iPod touch versus whatever Samsung calls their Android media player. And operating system -wise it is iOS versus Android.

          • s71rl2

            “The first problem is that there is no such thing as a “smartphone OS market.” People don’t go out and buy a smartphone OS” Wrong. I chose Android over iOS, then I got to choose handset. “People” is a pretty big assumption.

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          • Fogster

            I absolutely agree – I chose Android over iOS, due to the availability (and total cost of ownership) of the underlying hardware. More so, as I start to invest in the OS (both monetary investment – as I purchase Apps – and time investment – as I become familiar with and learn to use the OS), I become increasingly tied to that OS so that, when purchasing my next smart phone, I’ll look to not waste that investment.   To suggest that ‘all’ people have no clue as to what OS is running on their device is untrue. My father is totally technically illiterate but, when he comes to upgrade, his question will be (he’s an iPhone user) – “is it the same to use as my last phone? Can I get the same apps?”… without even realising it, he’s seeking out the same OS.

          • Email Do Faustino

            so if it’s manufacturers we should compare maybe it should have been Samsung vs Foxconn

          • Jakob Kobberholm

            Don’t be silly. Just because software can have hardware requirements, does not mean that they do not run on the same platform. Platform and system requirements are NOT the same thing. Just look at any computer game for Windows ever made.

            I have developed software for the Android PLATFORM. Just like almost all of the Android developers(I am guessing at least 99%, even though I have no real statistics, so sue me), I have never developed any software that would only run on a single device, a single distribution of the operating system or required a particular manufacturer or specific piece of hardware in the device, so why would you EVER sort the market by those factors?

          • Erik

            What they tell you is how many people are using an Android phone vs an Apple phone. Just like it would tell you how many people use Linux vs Windows. Linux runs Windows apps, too. Are you mad that Android appeal to more people looking to get a smartphone?

          • Erik

            What they tell you is how many people are using an Android phone vs an Apple phone. Just like it would tell you how many people use Linux vs Windows. Linux runs Windows apps, too. Are you mad that Android appeal to more people looking to get a smartphone?

      • Scruff

        And what about poor Edith? Doesn’t she have a say in it?

    • Anonymous

      Market share goes by manufacturer. Here are the top 3 mobile phone (not just smartphone) manufacturers in the US by units shipped:

      • Samsung
      • LG
      • Apple

      Samsung has a bigger share of the market than LG who has a bigger share of the market than Apple. That is “market share.”

      This is basic economics.

    • Anonymous

      No offense, but you are a moron.

    • Thomasblkjetson

      U stupid, if u say iPhone it’s one phone one system what part u don’t understand

      • GeorgeS

        Thomasblkjetson: Be careful about calling anyone else “stupid” when you write that way.

      • Chelseaflash13

        wow this is lame

    • Minty

      Jim D says: “We don’t see reports of Windows 7 being compared to a Dell computer… that would be stupid.” That statement is stupid because it is not an equivalent comparison. Comparing Android devices to iPhones is like comparing Windows machines to Macs. People make that comparison all the time. It’s valid. Learn to live with the fact that Apple won’t always have market dominance. Competition is healthy.

    • iPerson

      I agree with him android can be compared to the iOS software as they are both OS it’s like comparing windows to Linux.

  • GHR

    I see where yo’re going with this but I’m not sure if I quite agree. I agree that it’s unfair to compare hardware vs software but it goes the other way too. I often hear of people comparing iOS vs Android, which in itself is fine but Android don’t run on mp3 players.

    I think a fair comparison is phone to phone and tablet to tablet. I’d like to know how many Android powered phones shipped vs iOS (on iPhones only) and Android tablets vs iOS (on iPads only). That would be fair.

    • Zac Caslin

      I’v seen some PMP’s with android. Samsung has at least one.

      • GHR

        Fair enough, correction taken but I think my point still stands. I’d like to see phones compared separately to tablets and PMP’s.

        This boils down to Apple vs Google regardless of the manufacturer of the handset.

        • http://twitter.com/rvr River Brandon

          actually, no it doesn’t. android is quite fractured between handset makers, so it’s a stretch to even call android a platform, at least in the way ios is a platform, since ios is truly unified and developers can offer apps that work on multiple devices. android, not so much.

          • AppleFUD

            I think you have it backwards. iOS is a closed proprietary OS. . . not really a platform–you can’t build off the OS itself where Android anyone can build off the OS and make changes yet still allow it to play well with apps, thus it is more a platform than just an OS.

          • http://twitter.com/rvr River Brandon

            i guess you have a different definition of a platform. a platform is something you can build on top of. i don’t think you have to be able to alter the platform itself in order for it to be a platform. developers are building on top of ios, and it provides apis and a toolchain to do this. it’s a stable platform with a defined set of capabilities provided to apps. a platform does not have to be “open”.

            android has been taken and altered by handset manufacturers to come up with specific implementations that can vary from one oem to another. that’s why i say it’s not one single platform. as a developer, you can’t build on top of android with confidence and predictability. you have to decide which android you’re targeting, and then which hardware you will support. ios has some dinstinctions between versions of software and hardware, but relative to android it’s been very stable and it generally handles feature degredation very well. ios users also adopt new versions at a much better rate.

          • lkalliance

            To add to River’s point (or perhaps to rephrase it a little): BECAUSE Apple is a closed system developers can use it as a platform with more confidence. It’s not coincidental. Further, Apple as the sole vendor of both the software and the hardware, has an incentive to make sure that your application, Mr. Developer, once created and sold, remains viable for an extended period of time.

            There is some risk that a given older app running on an old version of iOS will someday be dated to the point that it does not run on newer versions of the OS (and thus on newer versions of iPhone) — indeed, it’s not just a risk but has happened already, I believe — but there is one stakeholder: Apple. Apple is invested in the success of ALL developers using its OS.

            By comparison each OEM using Android is invested only in its own implementation. They are not invested in all Android developers, only in those whose app runs on their version of Android and their implementation of it. I would go so far as to suggest that a phone vendor isn’t even invested in the success of all Android Markets: it’s only interested in the success of a market in which it has a slice of the pie.

            It seems to be taken as an article of faith and of history that phone vendors rarely and inconsistently provide software updates. They seem to operate on you getting a new phone with the latest pre-installed. Apple seems to operate the other way: supporting your device for a span of years significantly longer than your two-year contract. That, in fact, will suppress iPhone sales numbers: it’s easier to just hold on to your existing phone beyond that two-year update cycle and still have (software-wise) the latest and greatest. Four years? Six years?

          • Anonymous

            If you alter the platform, then you have created another platform. That speaks to the fact that Android is a kit with which handset makers can make their own platform.

          • Francistracy1

            You all miss the point I have a htc sensation and hands down will run circles around the iPhone 4 period!

          • Player_16

            So I build the platform around the apps, right?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Koen-van-Hees/1301049198 Koen van Hees

            Words like platform have well established definitions that you can actually look up. I think River explained it very nicely.

          • Player_16

            River presented his argument quite well. I was referring to AppleFUD’s word-twist.

          • kibbles

            fud – you are no developer. a platform is what i write applications for, whether open or closed. windows is closed — i cannot alter it, but i can write applications for it. ditto for the Wii.

            are you honestly suggesting Wii and Windows are not platforms? hmmm.

            you Liked yourself, didnt you.

          • Anonymous

            If iOS is not a platform, then what are those 400,000 iOS apps and innumerable HTML5 apps and thousands of accessories and hundreds of thousands of songs and movies and books and podcasts all sitting on?

            If Android is a better platform, why does it have fewer apps and almost no accessories? Why does any particular app only run on some devices? Even Angry Birds does not run on all phones that run Android. Why is there no Netflix or Hulu if it is a better platform? Why does the Web browser, even on Honeycomb, fail to run so many HTML5 apps that run perfectly on iOS? Why do so many devices that run Android have no way to get movies on there?

            The truth is: iOS is a consumer platform, and Android is a handset manufacturer platform, with which they can make their own HTC or Motorola or Nook consumer platform. If you buy a Nook, it runs Nook apps from the Nook remote app installer. The fact that Barnes & Noble used Android to build their Nook platform does not make Android equivalent to iOS in any way at all. Motorola builds on top of Android, while the regular consumer builds on top of iOS just by installing an app or a music album.

            If it was discovered that Android devices were accidentally shipping covered in hallucinogenic mold it would actually explain some things.

          • Anonymous

            If iOS is so closed and proprietary, why does Android use the iOS Web browser engine, Apple WebKit? What parts of Android can Apple use in iOS? None. The license terms on Android prevent that. So who is more closed and who is more open?

            The most popular mobile open source project is Apple WebKit, not Google Android. WebKit is on every single smartphone with the exception of Microsoft smartphones, which are only a sliver of the entire market.

          • tcoulon

            From webkit.org: WebKit is an open source web browser engine. WebKit is also the name of the Mac OS X system framework version of the engine that’s used by Safari, Dashboard, Mail, and many other OS X applications. WebKit’s HTML and JavaScript code began as a branch of the KHTML and KJS libraries from KDE.

            No, Apple did not invent everything, even if they use or buy it. Safari was build on the (opensource) Konqueror technology, and they purchased CUPS because they used it in MacOS. 

          • GeorgeS

            By your definition, WIndows is not a platform. It is also closed and proprietary.

          • DoneandDone

            This is not accurate. Not all apps run on all ios devices. There are things that won’t run on my 1st Gen iPhone. Someone in the comments earlier mentioned that not all Android phones can run Angry birds. Well in both cases, whether ios or android, as technology advances apps will not work with older hardware and will require the newest hardware.

          • Kizedek

            I am sure you are being overly critical of a pretty straightforward point: the same iOS app can be installed on all three devices today (and the iPad will get different layout included).

            Consider iOS:

            1) “All devices” refers to all current devices. If you referred to Android or Windows and said “all devices or computers, you would not, ever, mean “all devices or computers that were made that ever ran any version of Android or Windows, ever”. A plain and straightforward reading of “all devices” never means “all devices ever made or in use today that run any version whatsoever of said operating system.” There is just no way that you would mean that, ever.

            ALL Apple iOS devices ship with latest version of iOS on day of purchase!

            2) If you were to look back at all devices ever made or were currently still in use, you would still see more cohesiveness among iOS devices. As others have pointed out: the update rate is much quicker and has much more penetration on iOS. Developers can count on a high very high rate of update across the board within weeks of an iOS update. Even two-year old devices are getting updated, though as you point out, three-year devices still in use are a little iffy. ALL three of the device types. iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad are getting updated equally and at the same time.

            3) Gen 1 devices (bear in mind these are three years old and some people, like my dad, still use them on a daily basis) still run apps! They just don’t get the apps that rely on certain hardware features that were not even present in their phones — camera, gyroscope, certain chip or graphics capabilites. However, hundreds of thousands of Apps work just fine! Obviously, Developers are creating and shipping apps that take advantage of new hardware features that didn’t even exist in some phones. That’s natural on any platform; what’s your point?

            Now, contrast that with Android:

            1) CURRENT devices ship with all manner of versions of Android. This is at the whim of the carrier or hardware manufacturer. Newer or current devices might ship with older versions of the OS than a device released 6 months or even a year ago!

            2) Google releases OS updates, but it is only the most geeky users that update for themselves (compare this to clicking one big button you see as soon as you open iTunes with an iOS device attached to your computer). Updating is at the mercy of the carrier or the manufacturer; they do this slowly, if ever; they want to force you to buy another device.

            3) Not only do early devices lack features that are included in later devices, as in iOS and any other platform on the planet throughout all of history, BUT Android devices vary much more significantly from device to device and from manufacturer to manufacturer than iOS. It is inevitable. It is not easy for developers. This wide variation in hardware specs, combined with a wide variation in Android version found from device to device, is what is known as “Fragmentation”. To most Android fanboys, this phenomenon does not exist. They are wrong. It does exist. And it is an issue for developers, no matter what these fanboys may say.

          • Morgan Parry93

            Th thing about apple’s more frequent updates is most of them do nothing other than patch the exploit hackers used to jailbreak their idevices so all apple only updates their devices to suit their own power hungry needs

          • NutjobNumber1

            Do you make this stuff up or did you read this somewhere? Apple does whatever they can to prevent hackers. Isn’t that a good thing? Apple doesn’t support hacked up jailbroken OS because since someone OUTSIDE the company is changing the OS, how CAN they support it? Seriously, people need to get a life and get out of hacking up a commercially available OS.

      • Xpple

        Google has only recently allowed PMP & tablets. In other words, up until just recently Google hasn’t counted activations for anything other than smartphones.

        • Anonymous

          I’m pretty sure there have been Android-based music players for quite some time from Archos and others.

          The actual fact is that phones are the only Android-based devices that have seen any significant sales. That is because there were inferior-to-Android Windows Mobile and feature phones for it to replace. Every Android handset from every manufacturer has a previous model from that same manufacturer that ran either Windows Mobile or was a feature phone. In media players, Android would have to replace far superior iPods (because the non-iPod part of the music player market is almost all very cheap, $100 or less) or in PC’s, Android would have to replace far superior iPads, Macs, or Windows PC’s.

          Android fills a niche in phones, but that niche doesn’t exist in other devices.

    • Anonymous

      That’s wrong, there are plenty of Android music/video players that aren’t Tablets and aren’t Phones. Sure they don’t sell well… but isn’t that what the comparison is all about?

    • Anonymous

      > phone to phone

      A comparison of phone to phone is iPhone versus Droid.

      > tablet to tablet

      A comparison of tablet to tablet is iPad versus XOOM.

      > media players

      A comparison of media players is iPod versus Samsung’s media player that runs Android.

      > I’d like to know how many Android powered phones shipped vs > iOS (on iPhones only) and Android tablets vs iOS (on iPads only). > That would be fair.

      No, it would not. You’re artificially combining multiple very different phone models from multiple competing manufacturers that do not even all run the same apps into one “Android phone platform” that does not exist. Then you going the opposite way for Apple and taking only one phone model and creating an “iOS phone platform” that also does not exist.

      This is the equation you’re running:

      • Dell phones + HTC phones + Kyocera phones + LG phones + Motorola phones + Samsung phones = fictional Android phone platform • iPhone = fictional iOS phone platform

      In other words, you are comparing Android to iPhone again.

      The way that you can see neither of those platforms exist is that Angry Birds runs only on some of the phones you put into the “Android phone platform.” It may only run on half or less. So how is that a “platform”? Also, there are about 6 different user interfaces in your “Android phone platform” and multiple versions of Android, some of which cannot run the same apps as the other. So what you have done is combined various smaller platforms into one fictional bigger platform. This makes the Android OS look artificially bigger. On the other side, Angry Birds runs on all iPhones, but the same exact Angry Birds app also runs on all iPod touch and iPads. So what you have done on the Apple side is taken a subset of a much bigger iOS platform and created one fictional smaller “iOS phone platform.”

      If you want to be fair, compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. iOS to Android, iPhone to Galaxy S, Apple to Motorola, App Store to Android Market, and so on.

      • Drugs

        There are also some apps that aren’t compatible with the iPad. So, judging by your logic, iOS is a fictional platform. Problem?

      • Sexy69 Ng

        I seriously doubt android phones differ from one another as Mich as people make it sound. Comparing android with Apple isn’t fair because manufacturers alter their phone in some meaningless way? Apple you could say does the same thing because last time I was at best buy there were multiple iphones to choose from. One was more updated and cost more.. so where’s the difference from android? The fact that android has multiple manufacturers is meaningless when u consider they all are carrying googles trusted name and brand. The market is split in a way that pits Apple against everyone else because Apple isolated itself in the market. Same with pc vs Apple. How many pc manufacturers are there compared to Apple. because when regular customers shop for a phone they are looking for something easy and compatable with their life and which ever device they pick up and enjoy the most is all dependent on the OS whether they are aware of it or not. As for apps and that junk.. all I know is android has some hard working delightful apps. It can download torrents, emulate Nintendo games, yes it plays movies, and has no need to be jailbroken. I really couldn’t care less about the billion smiley text apps I may be missing out on but good for Apple!

    • Anonymous

      If you’re talking about the iPod Touch, it’s nowhere near just an MP3 player. It’s an iPhone, just without 3G and the phone app. If the iPod Touch is just an MP3 player, so’s the wifi-only iPad.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HMBSDTDH5Q2V3GZR3EI4KIICDM Encik Haris

      This is the best answer. Other way is just comparing apple and oranges.

      The article suggest comparing Android Vs IPhone manufacturer market share.

      But as we all clearly see the title is “Android vs. iPhone market share”. No “manufacturer” anywhere in the title.

      I will further suggest that the author change the title to “How I misunderstood what is meant by Android vs. iPhone market share” so that the title and the article match.

      Cheers!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Omega-Man/100000590156587 Omega Man

      Android runs on Samsung’s media player and MUCH MUCH more (some devices that have nothing to do with mobile computing at all, which are not counted in this blog).  So no, it is not a fair comparison to put just Android against iOS, we need to be more specific for any comparison to have real meaning.

    • http://www.ngumbi.com mikato

      Yeah I agree GHR, this is the only comparison I’m really interested in.  I’d like to know how many people are using Android on their phones vs how many are using iOS on their iPhones.  There are valid comparisons to be made here.

  • Claus Dahl

    Self serving mixed logic. First it’s “absurd” to compare similar devices of similar utility running the same OS because they have different manufacturers. And then a few lines later you gladly count different classes of devices from Apple only because they use the same OS – even though they have completely different uses. That makes absolutely no sense.

    • http://profiles.google.com/muffinmonsterangel Angel Ai

      It makes perfect sense. Say you’re a developer. Are you going to look only at phones or at the platforms? Considering that the iPod touch and iPhone can run all the same apps (excluding ones that require phone services, obviously), it’s only sensible to include them in the same pie section. In fact, you can arguably even include the iPad since many apps on the App Store are now universal (not to mention that it still runs non-universal iPhone apps).

      • Claus Dahl

        “Excluding ones that require phone services, obviously” and excluding all those apps that rely on the difference in form factor, obviously. That’s the point. Phones are substitutable products. Iphone and iPad are not.

        • http://profiles.google.com/muffinmonsterangel Angel Ai

          Even then, most apps run on all devices, so to exclude iPod touches and iPads just because they aren’t phones is ridiculous. It’s not as if all Android phones can run all the same apps. The fragmentation is far worse there, yet that doesn’t stop anybody from lumping them all together.

          Any developer considering platforms for which to develop isn’t going to ignore iPod touches and iPads just because they aren’t phones.

        • http://twitter.com/trollwerks Alex Curylo

          “Phones are substitutable products. Iphone and iPad are not.”

          As Angel correctly points out, that does not matter to us developers. At the very minimum the correct iOS number is iPhone + iPod, for any app that doesn’t actually use telephony. Which vanishingly few do. For an extra 20% or so effort with most apps’ interfaces to make a Universal app, the correct number is indeed iPhone + iPod + iPad.

          And you spend way more than 20% development time getting your Android app interface to look acceptable on just common phone size factors, never mind tablets.

          Now, if you compared actual revenue numbers on substitutable products between the platforms, the question goes from “Woah, iOS sure looks like a better idea” to “These people developing for Android, are they on crack?” People with five top 100 charted games in the Android Market make less daily then one of my little photography iOS apps that breaks into the top 1000 maybe once every three weeks. Pretty hard to see what the point of developing for Android is, from this corner.

          • Anonymous

            No, you don’t have to make an iPad interface for your app to run on iPad. That is optional. Same as you don’t have to support Retina. If you make a basic iPhone app with 3.5 inch low-res interface, it runs on iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad.

            It is much easier to treat all iOS devices as one target than it is just to target only Android phones.

        • Anonymous

          What you said makes no sense at all. iPads run mini-apps at 2x. Generally speaking, any particular iOS device will run 99.9% of all iPhone apps. The reason that is not 100% is there are some apps that won’t run on a device that doesn’t have a FaceTime camera, and there are some that require an A4 or better processor, and there are some that require a phone. But they are a tiny, tiny minority, and they are not even shown to a user by App Store if they do not run on their device. They don’t buy an app and then it doesn’t run right on their device, which is common with Android.

          Just look at the fact that the Angry Birds app for iPhone runs on iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch, but the Angry Birds app for Android doesn’t run on all Android phones. You are much more likely to see a single iPhone app run on all iPhone/iPad/iPod touch than you are to see a single Android app run on all Android phones. iPhone/iPad/iPod touch are a more unified platform than just Android phones.

      • kibbles

        its about the “app share”, not the market share. which platform has a more thriving app marketplace, where i can write apps that reach as many paying customers as possible?

        iOS.

    • Anonymous

      It makes sense if you consider the audience most concerned about market share – developers. For example:

      Software developers are interested in the OS market share. Most iOS apps can run on all iOS devices, therefore it is okay to lump them together. On the other hand, Android fragmentation ranks high among developer misgivings.

      Case designers are interested in the market share of individual devices. They are not interested in iOS, iPad, or iPhone market share. They want to know about iPad 2, iPhone 4, and the latest Touch. Similarly, they are not interested in Android market share. They want to know about Droid, Playbook, Xoom, etc. individually. They are also interested in the lifetime of the various form factors. They prefer designs that last a year over products that last three months.


      Savvy consumers are interested in the number of apps and accessories are available for a particular product; and in the number of developers that will be producing new products in the future. Therefore, they are interested in both platform market share AND individual market share.


      That is why it makes sense to talk about both platform market share and individual market share. What does not make sense is comparing one against the other.

      • Anonymous

        Consumers are not interested in market share at all. Most consumers do not even know what operating system their current phone runs, let alone the phone they are considering. If they are comparing devices at all, they are interested in FUNCTIONALITY. The device and its accessories, the things they can do with the device. Phone, Web browser, music, Netflix, Hulu, Angry Birds, etc. So they are looking at iPhone and App Store, or Nook and Nook Popular Apps.

        Or, they are interested in whatever was free or cheap at their carrier store, because they think all phones are the same. That is why so many Android phones attempt to masquerade as iPhones and Windows PC’s attempt to masquerade as Macs. Most consumers know so little about technology they do not understand there even is a difference between a Dell or Apple PC, or Samsung or Apple phone. A phone is a phone, a PC is a PC, right?

        > That is why it makes sense to talk about both platform market share > and individual market share. What does not make sense is comparing > one against the other.

        Also it is important to look at manufacturer profitability. If your phone maker has very little profitability, they may not be around for the 2 year life of your device.

        So comparing iOS to Android, iPhone to Droid, and Apple to Motorola yields a lot of useful information. But comparing Android to iPhone makes Android look bigger.

        • Anonymous

          “Consumers are not interested in market share at all.”

          I said “savvy consumers”.

          “Most consumers do not even know what operating system their current phone runs…”

          Are you including iPhone owners in that group? I don’t think so.

          “Most consumers know so little about technology they do not understand there even is a difference between a Dell or Apple PC”

          Apple customers know the difference.

        • Jonathan

          > Most consumers know so little about technology they do not understand > there even is a difference between a Dell or Apple PC, or Samsung or > Apple phone. A phone is a phone, a PC is a PC, right?

          Ha ha. That’s like saying most consumers don’t know if their car runs on gasoline or diesel. You’re kidding, right?

      • joek

        how about we include macbooks and apple tv  on one side, and possibly google earch and gmail on the other? that would make just as much sense as comparing an ipod touch to something that actually calls and  texts

    • Anonymous

      iOS install base is still larger than Android worldwide. even with it’s current growth it will take awhile for it to pass iOS, if it doesn’t stall. In any case iOS is where the money is for developers.

      • Anonymous

        iOS installed base is larger than Android in the US also.

    • http://chipotle.tumblr.com/ Watts

      When we talk about “Android market share,” we very often are talking about Android across both phone and non-phone devices. I don’t use my iPhone and my iPad for exactly the same things, to be sure, but it’s quite a stretch to say “they have completely different uses”; they are both iOS devices and have some significant overlap in applications, which is in no small part what makes them useful to me. The same would surely be true if I were an Android phone user looking to buy an Android tablet — I wouldn’t be using them for exactly the same thing, but the fact that they were both Android-based devices would presumably have an effect on what I did with them. They both run Android. They both contribute to Android’s market share.

      You’re trying to make it sound like it’s utterly irrelevant that two “classes” of devices could be running the same operating system. If we were talking about a microwave oven and a cable box that both ran Wind River OS, you’d be right, but the OS is in fact very relevant here. This is one of the most interesting things to watch in the overall Android space, in fact, as we’ve just seen the Nook e-reader become a cheap Android tablet that (at least officially) is going to exist entirely in its own app ecosystem. Does a Nook count as an Android tablet? Objectively, it should, but in the sense I outlined above — that having the same OS on your phone and your tablet may in fact be beneficial to you — it might not. This may not be a serious drawback in practice, but it sure isn’t an advantage.

      • Anonymous

        No, when people talk about Android market share they are almost always talking only about phones and they are comparing to iPhone, because it’s the one way you can spin things to make Android appear successful compared to iPhone. Something like 99% of Android devices are phones, while only something like 50% of iOS devices are phones. So limiting the view to phones makes Android appear bigger than it is. It’s just a way of putting a thumb on the scale.

        Even just combining all Android devices is another cheat. They don’t all run the same version, interface, or apps. Even just talking smartphones is a cheat. Some Android-based phone are low-end smartphones and some are essentially free feature phones. When the term “smartphone” was coined, it was not at all about free phones. If you look at the entire phone market, you see that Android is not even the most popular free phone.

    • Anonymous

      Apple only has one phone. Therefore, if you combine all the Android phones into one group, and compare to all the iOS phones, you are comparing Android to iPhone. You are inventing a fictional “Android phone” and comparing it to the actual Apple phone. You are not comparing a group of different phones from various manufacturers that run Android with a group of different phones from various manufacturers that run iOS. In other words, you are comparing apples to oranges. What conclusion are you drawing from this? That Android should get more developer support? Wrong, because both iOS apps and Android apps run on more than just phones, a developer has to look at their entire target market, which is broader than just phones. That consumers are choosing Android more than iOS? Wrong, they are not choosing based on operating system … with the exception of a very small minority of technical users, users do not even know what OS their phone runs. Most Android users do not even know their phone runs Android; most iOS users do not even know their phone runs iOS. They are choosing iPhone or EVO or Droid.

      The equivalent thing going the other way would be to compare all Apple devices to all HTC devices, and then draw some kind of conclusion about Android. There are no conclusions to draw about Android based on only looking at HTC devices. There are no conclusions to draw about iOS based on looking only at phones.

      You’re also making mistake of pretending that iOS and Android OS are equivalent. They are not. Android is equivalent to OS X, the core operating system on Apple devices, not to iOS. Android is the core operating system on Motorola and HTC devices. The Motorola equivalent to iOS is Blur and the HTC equivalent to iOS is Sense. The Mac equivalent to iOS is Mac OS, which also runs on OS X.

      So combining all phones that run Android into a fictional Android platform and equating it with the actual iOS platform is disingenuous. iOS is a mobile interface on OS X and Sense is a mobile interface on Android.

      Compare equivalent things. Draw conclusions based on the whole picture.

  • Cormac MacCarthy

    “There is no compelling argument that anyone can give that says that comparing an operating system to a hardware device makes sense. None.”

    Sure there is. 1. Smartphones are the big story for the next few years… mp3 players and tablets are less relevant 2. When talking about smartphones you take the most relevant groups and compare them. The most relevant groups are iPhones and Androids because they are compatible… meaning you can switch them and keep all your data and applications.

    • http://twitter.com/rvr River Brandon

      “tablets are less relevant”

      really? you did see the numbers for the ipad, right? and you’ve seen the analysis that suggests tablets are taking sales away from the pc sector? i think it’s pretty obvious that tablets are very relevant, and i think the fact that ios is a truly unified platform across multiple devices will continue to be a major driver in terms of app development and ecosystem strength.

    • lkalliance

      You don’t switch an iPhone for an “Android”. You switch it for a Motorola Droid. Or a Samsung Galaxy. Or a Nexus. Or whatever other phone. Perhaps a given user goes into the store to get any Android phone, true, but they still must look at EACH phone, and weigh the benefits. Perhaps one of those benefits is Android. Perhaps it’s something else. Each has its own UI, its own form factor.

      To look at it a further way: why compare market share? To figure out the business viability of the enterprise, yes? Google makes no money on the distribution of Android itself (they do make it secondarily on the ads). Motorola doesn’t care how many Android phones are sold: they care how many Motorola Droids are sold. The market share they care about is Droid market share, not Android market share. If Droids fail to sell, Motorola stops making them (understood that this is an extreme example), or reduces their priority.

      From the developer standpoint, except in the comparatively rare cases where device form factor is an issue, it’s the penetration of iOS on all devices that means money. Even if you take the iPad out of the equation, since it has a significantly different form factor and developers tend to make iPad-specific versions of apps separate from their iPhone apps, we’re still talking about all iPhones plus all iPod Touches as their potential market for each app. The Android market is a lot more confusing: fragmented versions, software differentiated by OEMs, a variety of stores.

      (note: I’m not a developer, so my insight might be way off. Just going on the things I read.)

      So I think this article is spot on: Android-vs-iPhone is indeed an irrelevant comparison for practical purposes.

      • lkalliance

        (addendum)

        I glossed over one of my key points, in the example of the Motorola Droid.

        In the case of Android, a rising tide doesn’t lift all the boats. An improved version of Android is not made available to all users except at the telecoms’ convenience, not Google’s. On iOS, a rising tide DOES lift all boats, as all users with a reasonably recent phone (though, important to note, the lifespan of your iPhone as far as support for the latest iOS is probably going to be longer than the length of your phone contract) get the update from Apple, outside of the control of your carrier.

        One might say that on SOME phones (like, say, the Nexus) you DO have a good chance of getting regular updates. Perhaps there is a spectrum. But we’re then right back at the original point: your Android experience is differentiated by phone manufacturer and carrier, and thus grouping together all Android devices is not relevant. iOS devices are NOT differentiated, and thus CAN be grouped together.

      • Anonymous

        Verizon owns the Droid Brand by the way not motorola. that’s why you have stuff called the HTC Droid Incredible. Motorola Definitly doesnt care about droid.

      • Anonymous

        Any app that runs on iPod touch runs on iPad, it just runs at 2x scale. An iPad-specific interface is optional, and only a minority of apps have it.

        • lkalliance

          Oh I agree…but there is enough advantage in having an iPad-optimized app to want to optimize and thus incur the additional development overhead, whatever that may be. I think an iPhone app developer competing head-to-head on iPad against similar apps that are iPad-optimized is at a considerable disadvantage.

          So for the sake of the argument I’ve suggested separating out iPad, but you’re also right, there is some added juice for an iPhone app via iPad sales, perhaps a lot of juice.

    • Player_16

      Then identify the group; the groups are ‘phones’, ‘tablets’, ‘PMP’s’. ‘Android’ is a part from this group (OS platform). iOS is a part from this group (OS platform).

      There are many news reports everywhere that say ‘Androids are outselling iPhones’. When I see that, that’s poor research and poor reporting; not specific. Face-palm.

    • John Hupp

      Your point #2 is hilarious. The iPad is more “compatible” with the iPhone than most Android phones are with each other. Do most Android users have any chance of carrying their data over from one phone to the next?

      And if you harp on Google services, I’ll point out that they work with iPhones, too, so you can pull your contacts either way.

    • Anonymous

      You couldn’t be more wrong.

      Smartphones were the big story for the last few years. Tablets are the big story for the next few years. Tablets are a huge story, a whole new PC form factor.

      iPhones and Android-based phones are not compatible. I cannot switch from my iPhone and take my apps with me to an Android. I cannot even be sure Angry Birds would run, but there are whole categories of apps missing on Android. Android runs Java phone applets and iOS runs PC class native C apps. On iOS, I have a video editor, I have dozens of synthesizers, I have a handful of music production tools, I have a PC class office suite, I have art tools that take advantage of the 11-point multitouch that Android does not have, and I have dozens of games that don’t exist on Android. Not only are these particular apps not available on Android, Android has nothing like them at all. My iOS devices can join wireless MIDI networks and control synthesizers and music production tools on a Mac. I rely on that. It’s not available on Android. You couldn’t pay me enough to use Android apps instead of iOS apps.

      Further, I watch all of my movies and TV from 3 sources: iTunes, Netflix, Hulu. All 3 are available on both my iPhone and iPad, and none of them are available on any Android device. There are not even substitutes.

      So you’re not making any sense at all. You’re defending comparing all Android phones to just one Apple phone by saying Android phones are the same as iPhone. They are not. Not even close. The best 2011 Android phone on its best day is not as good as an iPhone 3G from 2008.

  • Claus Dahl

    Follow up: Let’s go by the numbers you’re using from Comscore http://comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2011/4/Apple_iOS_Platform_Outreaches_Android_by_59_Percent_in_U.S According to these figures. abt 40% of the iOS base is iPhones. It’s probably safe to assume the vast majority of the Android devices are phones. So for mobile phones Android (23 mio) vastly exceeds iPhone (40% of 37 mio)

  • http://twitter.com/natedogg0511 Nathaniel Woollard

    You can easily compare android to the iPhone considering the iphone is the only smart phone with its operating system. It might not be worded correctly but it is still valid comparison.

    • Player_16

      But these are reporters with some form of higher education: in the field of reporting. They were taught to be fence-riders; to relay info to the populace. I judge the article by the reporter. You loose my trust when you can’t tell or identify differences. With such a glaring mistake, you’re just spewing words otherwise.

      iPhone / Android. Android what? You just can’t just leave ‘Android’ hanging by its self. Playbook / Android. iPad / Android. iPod Touch / Android.

    • Anonymous

      It is not a valid comparison. What conclusions do you draw from that comparison? There are no valid conclusions to draw.

      If you compare Android phones to Windows phones then that is a valid comparison. You can conclude that phone manufacturers are more often choosing Android than Windows. That is a valid conclusion. Then you are comparing the demand for generic phone operating systems by phone makers. Phone manufacturers cannot choose iOS, it is not licensed like that. If they could choose it, iOS would be on pretty much every Android phone.

      Further, consumers do not choose an Android phone or an iOS phone. They choose a Droid or an iPhone. Pretending that people are asking for Android more than iOS is disingenuous. The devices do not even compete in many cases. iPhone is a high-end phone, and it’s only available on about 40% of the carriers. Android is a low-end phone and is available on almost all carriers. We cannot draw any conclusions about consumer choice by comparing all Android phones to the one iPhone.

      Comparing Android to iPhone and pretending you can draw a valid conclusion about either Android or iOS is false. If I compare all iApple devices to all HTC devices and pretend I can say something valid about Android that is also false.

      You can more easily compare all Android devices to all iOS devices, because then you are comparing operating systems to operating systems. There is this saying about comparing apples to apples, not to oranges. You are being disingenuous comparing an arbitrary group of phones from 6 manufacturers to one phone from 1 manufacturer and saying you can draw some conclusion.

      If it is valid to combine all Google Android-based phones into one group, then it is valid to combine all Apple WebKit-based phones into one group. Android is on 33% of smartphones, but WebKit is on 99%. Obviously, WebKit is winning. WebKit will replace Android in the near future. Right? I mean, they’re both open source projects that run on phones. Surely, WebKit will replace all Android one day.

  • Chris S Botha

    Your title says “Android vs. iPhone”, meaning Android phones vs. iPhones, would be my guess? Kind of easy, I would say – add up all the iPhones and then add up all the Android phones and see what you get! And then write another article “iOS vs. Android” if you want, and throw the iPods in there.

    • Player_16

      Clutch the straws.

      • http://getyourgadgetsgoing.com Tristan Thomas

        Your the one clutching. Android does something good and apple users find all ways to bring them down. Few months ago it was “apple has more market share” now that Tue tides have switched it market share seem to no longer matter

        • CleverBoy

          I don’t think anyone is bringing anyone down. I think this article is a response to the odd framing people keep trafficking… Think about it. No developers for iOS are targeting ONLY iPhone’s… and yet some in the media would like developers to see Android as “in the lead” when from a very practical, reastic perspective… they’re not. Under what circumstances does the comparison of Android phones to iOS phones make any sense?

          Honestly, Google is doing themselves a disservice by making it difficult or otherwise awkward for non-cellular devices to be certified for Android Market and Google apps access. OS vs OS is genuinely the only thing that matters for understanding the landscape.

          The reality is that there are an increasing amount of digital assistance devices out there. It’s all a win for consumers… and god bless Apple for changing the game with the iPad. That slow plodding path where we tried to get devices to run too much and thereby pollute the performance of otherwise amazing hardware, was a serious dead end. Industry revitalized.

        • Player_16

          @Tristan: A mind is a terrible thing to waste. (You’re, You are. ‘A’pple. Two. (Punctuation is your friend.) etc.)

          As CleverBoy below me succinctly put it; ‘Google is doing themselves a disservice by making it difficult … to be certified for Android Market and Google apps access.’ Nothing ‘good’ is coming out of this when Google chucks something out there for free and expects everyone else to see the error of their ways built on trust, so don’t just paint ‘Apple’ users with the same brush at finding ways to bring down Android -too many aren’t, it’s Android users too.

        • kibbles

          thats because blanket marketshare doesnt matter. the android versions held by each carrier are derivatives, not clones. they cannot and will not all be updated when Android has a new release. many apps for one do not work on other variations. thus, they are not the same.

          especially not to developers. as a dev i care about “app share” — that is, where can i air drop my product to the highest number of users, and paying users at that? not on android, too many derivatives… but on iOS? yes, nearly all iphones, touches, and ipads can be my customers.

          thats whats relevant! marketshare should indicate “app share”. doesnt with Android.

  • http://twitter.com/rvr River Brandon

    i think we need to go further and recognize that android isn’t even a platform in the same way as ios. fragmentation is a real issue, and it can be argued that android has become more a foundation on which to build a platform than a platform in itself. note the fact that there are multiple app markets for androids, incompatible os/hardware combinations, very distinct os variations, etc. as a developer, if i want to port my app successfully to android, there’s an order of magnitude more screen sizes and resolutions and devices to support and test on. it’s kind of a mess.

    • kibbles

      yes. android as foundation — like Linux or iOS based on UNIX, where UNIX is the foundation…

  • http://twitter.com/rvr River Brandon

    i think we need to go further and recognize that android isn’t even a platform in the same way as ios. fragmentation is a real issue, and it can be argued that android has become more a foundation on which to build a platform than a platform in itself. note the fact that there are multiple app markets for androids, incompatible os/hardware combinations, very distinct os variations, etc. as a developer, if i want to port my app successfully to android, there’s an order of magnitude more screen sizes and resolutions and devices to support and test on. it’s kind of a mess.

  • AppleFUD

    Apple fan logic at work in this article!

    While you all may want apple to dominate some market share. . . it won’t really happen without twisting logic and excluding devices that do more from a category–like excluding phones that play music from the iPod category and Windows tablets from the “tablet/iPad” category.

    Just be happy that you are paying the highest markup on your apple hardware compared to any other company on the planet. Just know that you pay extra for that apple logo and therefore are “cooler” because you pay more and apple doesn’t have the dominant market share.

    • Anonymous

      Apple already dominate the high-end market. They have no interest in the 300-700 buck “mega deals” you get from Dell via fax.

      Apple’s users generally don’t care for this low end stuff either.

      If you sleep better at night because of the misguided belief Apple products are all about a badge and not about getting stuff done pleasantly, then whatever. Try a hackintosh.

    • Anonymous

      Honestly, what business is it of yours how much I pay for something? And why would you even care? Live your own life, let me live mine.

      People will pay ridiculous amounts of money for things that they value. This applies to all product categories: kitchenware, clothing, sporting goods, home furnishings, cars, etc.

    • Anonymous

      look if the competitors came out with a viable alternative, i’d gladly jump ship.

      there is absoutely nothing that can replace my ipod touch. My suite of iPhone 4 apps have no peer. Google android marketplace does not offer apps that look as good and are as functional as what i have now.

      And the marketplace is crappy. Google has enough money that they don’t need me to invest in their betas.

      It’s not like I haven’t tried. But for what Apple mobile devices offer(i’m just talking ios here), you could even make the argument that they are offering it too cheaply.

      i don’t really care about markup. give me a 200$ alternative to my ipod touch. Give me a 700 dollar alternative to my unlocked iPhone4. Give me a good fax machine app. Give me a document scanner app that takes 5 seconds to scan docs. Give me a 500 dollar 10 inch screen that smoothly runs apps.

      The only alternative i’ve seen is Archos and Samsung. The compatibility with apps issue on those devices are sooooo broken. And not in retail stores.

      Well, i’ll give you the phone thing. there’s a lot of phone substitutes if you aren’t locked into niche apps.

      As for ipads, nothing comes close. Not even the transformer,which only gets points because of the price. The demo of it on engadget was pretty bad.

  • Richard Conway

    You should compare the number of iPhones vs Smart Phones running Android. You can’t throw in other types of hardware since they aren’t used for the same purpose (e.g., you wouldn’t replace your Android smart phone with an iPod). That being said, deploying apps for IOS does have some advantages for developers (as long as Apple decides to let you sell your app in iTunes) since you have a very limited number of form factors / capabilities to program for. The Android ecosystem has many more combinations of features and capabilities – which makes it more interesting, but more of a challenge when developing apps. However, the Android hardware is improving so quickly, that you can nearly use the specs of the most advanced phone available today as a target platform – and know that 6 months from now the majority of phones sold will have this feature set.

    • Anonymous

      But exactly what question is that statistic answering? Cellular radio Android Devices vs Cellular Radio IOS devices World wide? Isn’t that statistic more useful/important to Carriers?

      As consumers, aren’t we more concerned with pricing and apps? It’s really not apple’s fault that neither Microsoft nor Google are interested in competitng with the ipod touch.

      so here’s a statistic for you. 0% marketshare vs 100% ipod touch marketshare.

      • Anonymous

        Coupled with 70-80% tablet marketshare and 10-20% for Android. Even if we honour the request of those who claim it’s unfair that multiple unrelated hardware from Apple, running the same OS, are unfairly grouped together and should be seperated, it seems like Apple’s winning in 2 out of 3 categories, which seems like a win to me.

        • Anonymous

          But there’s really only one statistic that is worth much. That’s apps. That’s what gave MSFT a commanding marketshare. That’s why Ballmer shouts “Devs, Devs, Devs!”

          I don’t believe the Android approach is good for devs. Where is the great Android apps that can compete side by side with iOS? Garageband, iWork, etc etc.

          i also don’t enjoy itunes. I’m starting to see less Free try before you buy skews. I make it a point not to buy anything that doesn’t have a try for free version. Apple needs to implement a try before you buy thing.

    • kibbles

      You can’t throw in other types of hardware since they aren’t used for the same purpose

      errnnt. i CAN sell my apps on both iOS phones and iOS non-phones (ipod touch, ipad). thats why its relevant!

      use the specs of the most advanced phone available today as a target platform – and know that 6 months from now the majority of phones sold will have this feature set.

      how do you figure, when each carrier’s android hardware is completely different? i cant assume they will all have a physical keyboard, for example, or a particular screen size.

  • Jaygatsby9909

    I have to agree with others commenting. The statement that comparing Windows to Dell was an atrocious analogy. When you compare Android you are lumping in all manufacturers that use Android. The iPhone is the ONLY phone that runs iOS, so in saying iPhone you can say iOS. Also, the market share numbers are focusing on smartphones only. So any and all aruments about PMP and tablets can go out the window. And yes, Apple “outpaced Motorola by 3 times”. MOTOROLA…not Motorola, Samsung, HTC, LG, Dell, etc. The market share is ALL android SMARTPHONES and iPhones. So, in conclusion, this article is wrong and flawed and exactly what I’d expect to hear from an Apple fanboy (I’m not anti-apple, typing this on my MacBook right now. I’m just not stuck up Steve Jobs’ skinny ass). And That is the truth.

    • lkalliance

      If that is the context, “When you compare Android you are lumping in all manufacturers that use Android,” then you absolutely should include at least iPod Touch with “iPhone”. They are using the same OS.

      • http://getyourgadgetsgoing.com Tristan Thomas

        You’ve really missed the essence of the his comment. Android smartphones are used to make and receive calls. You cannot replace an android smrtphone with an itouch or an ipad. Hell you can’t even replace an iphone with an itouch or ipad.

        That is why you cannot group them in. The measurment is to measure mobile phone os.

        • John Hupp

          WiFi and Skype much? The current iPod Touch has a microphone and a speaker. As does the iPad. I have made Skype phone calls from my iPad 3G.

          Now I don’t see why Google doesn’t embrace non-traditional “phone” devices. They seem so keen on everyone using Google Voice otherwise.

          • Player_16

            ‘WiFi and Skype much?’ Not with that Skype Android virus going around.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1425254326 Anonymous

          Google artificially hypes Android numbers by counting tablets as Android activations. You are not going to replace an iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy Tab.

        • http://www.isights.org/ Michael Long

          That’s all well and good, but speaking as a developer, the fact is that the iPod Touch adds over 60 million additional users to the iOS platform. A number that is NOT inconsequential. Nor is the fact that the iPad currently adds another 19 million or so absolutely meaningless.

          And the iOS platform as a whole does have an impact on mobile smartphone sales, simply because a lot of people are keeping their dumbphones while using devices like the Touch and the iPad to gain access to “smartphone” apps. This lets them use cheap phones and avoid expensive monthly data plans. I know quite a few families who’ve gone this route, especially for their kids.

          Heck, my girlfriend’s son has been campaigning for an iPhone for a while now, but has had to “settle” for his existing phone and a 32GB Touch.

          You can create artificial distinctions and draw lines in the sand if you want, but the fact is that there are a boatload of iOS devices out there, and people are using them.

    • http://www.jimrehs.net Jim Schmidt

      I see, so Motorola, Samsung, HTC, LG, Dell, etc are all one big happy company now? If not then you cannot lump them all together for market share. Your high and mighty response is completely wrong. Each manufacture has different capabilities, business characteristics etc. If Dell is having a bad year and we lump them all together your excuse would be it’s because we lumped them together, when one company does bad it brings the rest down, or you could have one company falsely inflating how it seems the other companies are doing.

      So with your logic we could take all the supermarket brand colas (pathmark, safeway, A&P, Krogers, etc), add them up in total sales and then claim that Safeway has the best selling cola. Cool!

  • http://www.facebook.com/benmarvin Ben Marvin

    I think it’s completely irrelevant the differences in manufacturers and hardware. It does boil down to Apple versus Google. The whole point of Android was for Google to expand their advertising platform. So it doesn’t matter how fragmented Android gets, how many different devices it’s on, and how many different overlays the manufacturer or carrier put on there. Google still makes ad money at the end of the day.

    With your flawed logic, you could be arguing that you can’t lump together Windows 7 on a Dell with Windows 7 on an Acer and compare them with OSX. You know, since it’s a different manufacturer. If you divide up the market sectors small enough, Apple could be winning every single category!

    • lkalliance

      In fact some analysts do divide the market up that way. Just Apple’s PC business makes it the world’s most profitable seller of PCs.

    • lkalliance

      (addendum) The Windows-to-Mac comparison is relevant to developers. They are two distinct and comparable OS’s. Since Macintosh computers are the only machines that run Mac OS, then comparing Windows-to-Mac does make sense, transitively, since it’s exactly the same as comparing Windows-to-OSX.

      Mac OS X = Macintosh computers Windows = sum of all PCs running Windows (they are interchangeable)

      So comparing OS X to Windows (which is what is relevant) is the same as comparing Macs to Windows.

      PC OEMs do not get to customize their versions of Windows, besides putting their own applications on their machines: Microsoft is licensing them the OS and not selling it to them. Neither is Google selling Android to phone manufacturers (though recently they are increasing their gatekeeping): the OS is open source and phone manufacturers can alter it as they wish.

      So Windows:Mac != Android:iOS

      And yet again, if you insist on lumping Windows PCs together (which is reasonable due to homogeneity) and you insist on lumping Android-derivative phones together (which is specious due to lack of homogeneity) then you must lump all iOS devices together as well to maintain relevancy

      • Anonymous

        Good comment.

        So, lets see in PCs… because of the homogeneity… You can compare Macs (OSX) to PCs (Windows) and within that desktops, laptops, etc. You can compare Apple desktop/laptop sales to individual Windows desktop/laptop manufacturers (Dell) You can compare individual Windows desktop/laptop manufacturers to each other (Dell vs HP)

        Now in mobile…no homogeneity.. You can’t compare iOS-based to android-based because iOS is a whole (core OS + presentation layer) and android is only the core, individual manufacturers implement different presentation layers. It’s kind of like using the BSD underpinnings of OSX, adding in all systems that use that underpinning and comparing that total to Windows. Or even broader, all with unix underpinnings to Windows. You can compare iPhone to individual android phone manufacturers (HTC) You can compare individual android phone manufacturers to each other (HTC vs Moto)

        More? Is my logic ok?

        • Anonymous

          Close. There’s a bigger platform crack in Android’s share numbers than just what’s skin deep; they include devices that run an OS based off Android, but do not run standard Android apps. They are completely different platforms running incompatible apps. How and why are these devices even considered to be Android anymore?

          • Anonymous

            So, android = an embedded system like a lot of other that could even run a microwave oven and we wouldn’t even think to include them when comparing to iOS ecosystem.

          • Anonymous

            Most of Android is open source, so anyone can download it and modify it just as they could with BSD or Linux. This allows someone to remove bits and pieces from the operating system, specifically Google’s Dalvik machine which is what Android apps are built against.

            Some companies are removing Android’s application layer, which defines the platform, and replacing it with their own application layer. Making their devices completely incompatible with other “Android” devices.

            These devices are being grouped with actual Android phones when marketshare numbers are calculated.

          • Anonymous

            Yep, just like OSX has (as you mention) BSD. it also uses a Mach kernel as I recall – modular. The point being, you wouldn’t compare another BSD-based OS with OSX as it would have different components and only BSD in common. So, one really shouldn’t compare all android varients, they have some commonalities but that’s about it.

        • lkalliance

          Bingo. I would guess that there are some out there that would — not incorrectly — say something on the order of Android being higher up the chain for the phone than BSD is for OS X…but the point you’re illustrating is the right one, I think.

          One could even take it further out on the limb, though I think it’s more of a twig by this point:

          Moto Android != Samsung Android != HTC Android != Google Android != (etc)

          Each manufacturer’s Android is unique. Or at least different enough that a given app may work on a given phone, or it may not. But on the iOS platform:

          iOS for iPhone == iOS for iPod Touch (== iOS for iPad)

          (I’m leaving iPad out of this; I know that a given iPhone app probably runs on iPad in some form, but usually a developer really needs to produce an iPad-optimized app. I don’t know how difficult this is, so to be safe I’m just leaving the iPad out)

          So you COULD say that any given Android device must be compared to iPhone and iPod Touch combined. That would be one platform (OEM-specific version of Android) vs. one platform (iOS). How about them apples? Can’t group all Androids against just the iPhone, but COULD group all handheld iOS clients against EACH Android phone.

          Just sayin’. ;)

  • Brett

    Android fans want to downplay the fragmentation caused by various the phone manufactures’ different form factors, customizations, and erratic upgrade policies, and app stores. They want to puff up the market share number in the hopes that other (naive) people will naturally assume that Android is the safe choice for the heard mentality to follow.

    I suppose they feel threatened by Apple’s success in creating a product ecosystem that despite being more closed in some ways, still manages to satisfy the needs of a large segment of the population.

    I just wish they would simply argue for Android based on its legitimate merits (It does have some), rather than trumping up market share numbers that don’t reflect anything meaningful. Apparently they feel the need to put their thumb on the scale in order to make up for Android’s shortcomings.

    • http://getyourgadgetsgoing.com Tristan Thomas

      Educate yourself; google why android market share actually matters.

      • http://www.isights.org/ Michael Long

        Okay… how’s this: “However, Android’s share of the smartphone market dipped in the quarter, NPD said, to 50 percent in the first quarter from 53 percent in last year’s fourth quarter. Apple’s iOS rose nine percentage points, accounting for 28 percent of smartphone units sold, while BlackBerry lost five points of market share, falling to 14 percent.”

        “The iPhone 4 was the top individual phone model, followed by the iPhone 3GS, Motorola Droid X, HTC EVO 4G, and HTC Droid Incredible.”

        Or this: “The iPhone is growing at a pace of 85-100% each quarter. iPhone revenue is nearly doubling each quarter. After selling 39 million iPhones in 2010, Apple is going to sell more than 75 million in 2011, generating nearly $50 billion in revenue from a single device.”

        “Google will probably report about $6.5 billion in total revenue when it releases its first quarter results later this week. Apple’s iPhone alone will very likely eclipse $11 billion for the March quarter. For 2011, Google is expected to report about $27 billion on the top line compared to the iPhone’s expected $48.2 billion in revenue.”

        “The iPhone as a business is nearly twice the size of Google’s entire operation.”

        Just as long as Apple is gaining ground, grabbing the lion’s share of the profits, and holding the number one and two spots…

        I don’t think they have a lot to worry about.

        • http://getyourgadgetsgoing.com Tristan Thomas

          Your not apart of apple. You do not get a check from them. There money isn’t your money.

          How much money apple and Google makes has little yo do with the future attention it will get; market share that is.

          • http://www.isights.org/ Michael Long

            If you go by market share numbers, Apple is the loser in the PC market, with only 10% US and 5% worldwide. If you go by profitability, however, Apple is taking home about 50% of the industry profits, and sales numbers by other manufacturers are declining.

            As said above, the iPhone is GROWING at a pace of 85-100% each quarter. iPhone revenue is nearly DOUBLING each quarter. The iPhone 4 was the TOP individual phone model, FOLLOWED by the iPhone 3GS, and THEN followed by the Motorola Droid X, et.al..

            Market share is an important number. It is not, however, the only number that matters.

            But if it makes you feel better, I fully expect Android to “win” in terms of pure market share. Mostly because it’s going to follow the Windows model, and become the most common OS shipped on cheap commodity devices.

            With little to differentiate one Android device from anther, manufacturers are going to race to the bottom on price.

          • Anonymous

            Market share without profits = a doomed company at some point. If you can’t make any money, what’s the point?

          • Player_16

            (A mind is a terrible thing to waste…)

            In Google’s case, they make their cash in other ways which is why they can give away Android for free. Whereas, the manufacturers (Motorola, HTC, LG etc.) they just fling stuff at the wall and see what sticks and run with that. They spend their profits on what gets flung. Where’s Green Peace when this flinging happens?

  • http://twitter.com/daiyami daiyami

    Agreed that the comparison needs to be all of iOS vs. all of Android, but a caution in how you are setting up the hardware question:

    So how does the iPhone stack up against one of these phones? Let’s take a look at the Motorola Droid.

    The person who buys the $49 8GB iPhone 3GS and signs up for the $15/month data plan is a very different customer and market from the iPhone 4 $299 32GB user with $25/month data and tethering. Similarly, Motorola has different smartphones aimed at different segments of the market. Unless you can break out iPhone 4 vs. 3GS numbers, you should be comparing company to company— Apple’s smartphone offerings (all versions of iPhone) to Motorola’s smartphone offerings (all the smartphones they make). Comparing just a single phone to the iPhone is still flawed unless you can account for that somehow.

    You do wind up doing this, because your Motorola data is total smartphones. But it doesn’t matter whether they are all the Droid or not.

  • Ndavidovics

    If youre going to include OS as the comparison (the one that makes the most sense) you need to leave out the iPad. While the ipad can run iphone apps, it’s not really the same experience, and a developer will almost always either design an app for the iphone or the ipad. So comparing iphones and ipod touches to android OS would be a fairer comparison.

    • Zapzupnz

      How? Android does run on tablets (Galaxy Tab, Xoom, and the various others such as the Nook Color) You can’t discount them just because hardly anyone has one of them compared to the iPad. That makes a disingenuous comparison.

      Besides, excluding the activations of iOS running on certain hardware devices somewhat defeats the point of comparing operating system share – you have to count them /all/.

    • uplift1

      “developer will almost always either design an app for the iphone or the ipad”.

      Patently false, most of the major titles now are universal binaries, i.e. the application is built on one codebase with two different UIs. As a mobile developer, myself, I assure you it’s MUCH easier to build the iphone and ipad versions simultaneously.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think it’s a real problem to compare Android with iPhone as long as the argument doesn’t head down the “platform” path. The iPhone is the only phone that uses iOS, so as long as it’s made clear that the comparison is narrowed to smartphones only then it’s fine.

    It’s when they use those numbers to hype Android as a platform, then there’s a major problem. From both a user and developer standpoint, iOS is much more cohesive platform, allowing apps to run across three different products.

    Barnes and Noble just released an update to their Android based Nook that turns the device into a full Android device, except it really isn’t one. It is restricted to apps from the Nook’s store. However, this will be lumped in as an “Android” device as well. There is a difference between a platform and an OS that a lot of people don’t understand.

    • http://getyourgadgetsgoing.com Tristan Thomas

      It wont be lumped in. Your speculating. The same way analytic firms know the difference between the iPhone and ipad internet tags are the same way for Android. In fact, ever cell phone model has their own unique tag in which websites see it as.

      • John Hupp

        You mean web browser user agents? I guess that explains why Galaxy Tabs and Xooms their own websites instead of getting dumped on regular mobile sites. Oh, wait! That’s exactly what happens!

  • Mike

    I AM a mobile developer and I think many of the comments here are incorrect. The fact is that you simply don’t develop a mobile app (games in my company’s case) for phones, music players, and tablets very often. You end up picking one and creating ports of the game if needed for other devices. In our latest game for instance, we are doing Facebook + tablets. The phone processing power and form factors just make the game too hard to play on the small screen without huge UI changes. I think you’ll find that most of the good games on tablets and phones are developed for them specifically and then ported as needed. Clearly there are exceptions to this but it’s consistently been my experience with the higher-end side of things.

    Personally, I think Google will handily “win” this battle if winning is defined by the market share held. It’s inevitable that all of the handset providers together will push back Apple given the time. It’s just not possible for Apple to compete with the rest of the industry all at once. As phone processing power gets better and cheaper, you will start to see feature phones running Android and then the game will be over as every phone effectively will become a “smart phone.” This will take a long time to happen though. With that said, I don’t think Apple will be surprised by any of this, they will still make massive amounts of money by selling to the high end consumers and playing up their cult following. It’s a great business model and they do it better than anyone.

    On the technology side of things, I think Android kicks the living crap out of iOS. I’m not talking specific phones here, I’m talking underlying tech. Even with the “fragmentation” – something I think is quite misleading in most articles and overrated in general – I enjoy Android development much more than iOS due to the APIs and development environments (XCode is hell, simply hell). Apple is just generally a pain in the neck to develop for – generally speaking Objective C is a nasty programming language all told. Feel free to do some searches on Google to see what I mean. Apple fans will defend Objective C to the bitter end so ignore them. Check out developers who just see the language as a tool to get work done – their cries of agony will haunt your dreams.

    This is the same thing that happened with XBox vs. Playstation. No one thought Microsoft had a chance except those of us that had programmed on the Playstation. It was a pain in the neck and all of the sudden, Microsoft comes out with a much easier to use set of APIs for a high-end console (all DirectX stuff). It was enough of a difference to pull over a ton of smaller game developers and indies. Enough of those and you have a very attractive product. Google does the same “developer wooing” as Microsoft and it just plain works. It’s a long term strategy but it’s a tried-and-tested one.

    Until that day in the future though, I’ll keep developing for everything I can within reason :)

    • http://twitter.com/Moeskido Moeskido

      “… their cult following.”

      I can’t tell you how tired I am of seeing that careless insult thrown around by people who recite it like a litany.

    • uplift1

      You’re a mobile developer doing “Facebook + tablets”. That makes it sound a lot like you’re a web developer (yet I see references to console development later on). Especially when you exhibit questionable knowledge of mobile platforms. As a mobile developer myself, you don’t write a separate iphone and ipad app, you write one common code base with variant front ends for phone/ipod vs ipad through subclassing. Most of the major iOS titles are now developed and deployed this way.

      “Objective C is a nasty language”: You realize that iOS can be developed with your own mix of C/C++ and Obj-C–which is why you’ll find the unreal and quake engines on IOS and not on Android. First rate developers don’t need garbage collection training wheels, but if you’re google, desperate to fluff up your app store with shovelware, by all means, bring on the legions of server side java developers who want to tinker on the weekends. From a developers standpoint, I’ll trade power and performance for runtime “convenience” anyday.

      Before bad mouthing XCode, you might freshen your skills by evaluating the completely redesigned version 4 that now supports command completion for C++.

  • Anonymous

    While I agree that most of these iPhone vs Android comparisons are flawed you can argue that its fair to compare iOS phones to Android phones. (For example for non-tablet applications the require a cell connection). In this case I don’t think its too much of a factual error to use “iPhone” as a proxy for “iOS phones.”

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Koen-van-Hees/1301049198 Koen van Hees

      Yes, but why really, who would be interested in such figures. If even google doesn’t have all its services implemented on all android phones, what’s the use of lumping all android smartphones together? You can certainly do that, everybody does, but who’s learning anything useful, is the point this article tries to make.

  • Simon Hibbs

    There are essentially two Android form factors and two iOS form factors – 4″ and under for phones and pocket media players such as the iPod Touch, and 7″ and over for tablets. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to lump iPod Touch sales in with iPone sales as they both run exactly the same software, while I think the tablet form factor is different enough that it makes sense to treat it separately despite the existence of universal Apps for iOS.

    I can understand analysts discounting iPad sales when looking at iOS Market share in the context of phones, but discounting the iPod touch makes no sense when talking about OS platform Market share. They only do it because Andoid lacks a significant presence in the media player market, but you can bet the Andoid fans will include the Nook Colour and any forthcoming Android based Kindle in the Android numbers without even thinking about it.

  • Jaygatsby9909

    The research was done by Nielson. They asked people that were going to buy a smartphone in the next 6 months what platform they were going to choose and Android was the dominant OS. Key word here is SMARTPHONES. The current research didn’t ask abut tablets or whether you could make a call on an iTouch therefore iPads and iTouches are irrelevant in this current study (as a Galaxy Tabs and Xooms). Furthermore, when looked into after 6 months, of the people that bought smartphones (from the original survey) 50% of them were Android. Just saying that this wasn’t some study done by Google or Apple. This was a neutral 3rd party that has no reason to skew results one way or the other.

    • Zapzupnz

      It doesn’t need a reason to skew the results to still carry out the survey incorrectly.

      It may be a smartphone-related survey, but that doesn’t change anything. Fact is, it should be smartphone x vs smartphone y vs smartphone z vs smartphone b. Instead, the data is presented as smartphone x vs smartphones y,z,a,b,c,d,e, and q.

    • http://twitter.com/Moeskido Moeskido

      Nielsen’s an interesting company in its own right. The last thing I read of theirs was a report from last year or the year before, which attempted to compare advertising revenues between old and new media. The report was aimed at and sold to traditional television networks, and bent over backwards trying to reassure those networks that they were still the kings of the entertainment advertising dollar.

  • Anonymous

    LOL however you cut it, the fact that iPhone’s market share is even comparable to every single Android device on earth COMBINED is pissing off some people.

  • http://twitter.com/upright Brent

    “That is the truth” is irrelevant.

    Yes, the media and the fanboys/fandroids kick the tires of their OSes and handsets and confuse software for hardware. That’s inevitable — people like to compare things.

    What’s really relevant, what’s important, is revenues.

    iOS and iPhone/iPad is making Apple some big-ass cash money. Google makes some money through search, but nothing else. And Android phone manufacturers are still operating under their old limitations and carrier agreements.

    It doesn’t matter if 7 out of 10 people use Android. Apple still makes more money from those 3 users than their hardware and software competitors.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HE2NSIVZJVOPGELM5XSRWTKLX4 MacLaw

    OK. So let’s compare IOS to Android.

  • Anonymous

    Ultimately, it doesn’t matter whether the Android community wants to believe Android is dominating and the iPhone is “dead in the water.” Developers will choose to develop for platforms they can make money on. Right now, they stand to make dramatically more money developing for iOS. They aren’t going to develop for Android just because a bunch of Android fans insist they should be. iOS developers know how many iPod touch users buy their apps, and they aren’t going to pretend that money doesn’t count because some people aren’t using smartphones. Because they’re not stupid.

    I’m not sure why the iPhone vs. Android debate has become such an overblown political battle, with pundits on both sides choosing which facts best support whatever argument they want to make. It’s silly. Buy one, buy the other, buy both, buy neither, and shut up already.

  • Davidlh

    You forgot to mention Sony Ericsson, they also make phones with Android.

  • http://www.informationworkshop.org Mark Hernandez

    I think it’s clear that there are MULTIPLE ways to measure market share.

    What is NOT clear is which, if any, are even meaningful. There isn’t going to be ONE winner so what does it matter? And we all benefit by having at least TWO players playing leapfrog who keep each other moving forward swiftly. Perhaps THAT is what’s really important, eh?

    There are a bazillion car manufacturers, and BMW has a great time making their cars, they’re profitable, and people really love driving them. I could care less about BMW’s market share.

    Like the birth certificate thing, let’s move on to more important discussions. I think you are amazing Jim Dalrymple, but this feels like beating a dead horse to me, and it died 10 years ago. “Market share” is so 1990.

    I doubt anyone will read my comment… Apple innovates with their products, howzabout we innovate how we look at and discuss the ever-morphing tech landscape, where old ways of looking at new things don’t work anymore and we need to try something new. You have the enviable position of having a big soapbox.

    Just a suggestion. :-)

  • http://www.techbitts.com/?source=disqus George Tinari

    I’m so happy you posted this. I posted an article very similar to my own website a few months ago, but The Loop obviously gets more page views. It’s damn time people knew the truth.

  • http://twitter.com/jasonandkaren TheWalkingDead’Cast

    Don’t get me wrong, I love Apple. But it does make sense to compare, say, iOS phones to Android phones.

  • Anonymous

    “And tonight we will compare and contrast Jesus and Spiderman” Robin Williams

    While you may be able through incredible feats of mental gymnastics, construct a rationale for a market share comparison, the real question is why anyone would want to cling to such a nonsensical metric.

  • Jaygatsby9909

    I personally don’t hate apple or Android (although I have a DX). I used both phones and Android (I’ve had others too) and I prefer Android. This is a debate that has no real answer. As far as comparing phone x to phone y,z,a,b,c,…, are you saying it’s not fair because Apple chooses to make one style of phone and no others. All I am saying is that as a whole, the market research shows most people want an Android powered phone. I will also agree that Apple makes major bank off their products. But a big portion of that is also due to the fact that a good Windows PC (if there is such a thin…hahahahahha) that has great specs cost $700 while a under speced Mac (again, typing this on MacBook) costs $2000. If I sold my product for almost 200% more than my competitor and sheeple kept buying my product, I’d me making major money too.

  • Rajeevratan

    The truth is…. you are a dickweed with little life outside your Mac babies.

  • Kai

    So, anyone here realized that Apple sell MORE THAN ONE PHONE MODEL AT ANY GIVEN TIME?

    The author claim that it’s unfair to compare Android devices made by all these companies to Apple, then he went along and compare one Android device to to combined sales of iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, and iPhone 4, how shrewed.

    Proves again that people will do whatever is necessary to make reality match their beliefs.

  • Jth9234

    The Android OS still has a larger market share than iOS.

    Apple made phones (iPhone, 3G, 3GS, 4) have the 3rd largest market share in make, behind only Nokia and RIM.

    iPhone 4 is the best selling smartphone ever by model.

    Those are current facts, not plays on words and standards…

  • http://soundcloud.com/mtz/interview-with-charbax Moritz

    I do agree these with your OS-share comparison. But I dont agree with the headline which says its all about the iPhone. If you wanna compare phones, you should do so. How many iPhones were sold all in all? Ok, Apple recently mentioned 100M: http://venturebeat.com/2011/03/02/apple-100m-iphones/ . But as long as Android Tablets dont play an important role in statistics yet, you should compare Phones with Phones.

    As well, theres way more android manufacturers than only six.

  • http://twitter.com/jameslabove James LaBove

    As others have said, there are multiple smartphones running iOS (4, 3GS, 3G). All still being sold, right this second. There’s nothing disingenuous about comparing the number of smartphones sold running iOS to the number of smartphones sold running Android. Apple doesn’t get to dictate how consumers measure the success of any particular technology, and despite the mean misleading journalist strawmen that Mr. Dalrymple props up, I don’t think anyone’s seriously arguing that iOS isn’t a fantastic software ecosystem, and that Apple isn’t making money hand over fist with it, so what exactly is the controversy here? What is it that has to be proven?

    Seriously, the author of this post goes from talking about people misrepresenting iOS/Android sales to lumping in Apple’s iPod Touch and iPad sales in with the iPhone’s to prove… uh… something, I don’t know what. Yes, it makes so much more sense to consider phones and tablets and media players as some big collective entity than it does to compare smartphones against smartphones. Now who’s moving the goalposts?

  • Lagartoi

    When the media compare Iphone vs Android Phones, they compare “functions” all the android phones share the same functions, and that is what the client is looking, more functions. iPhone is just a smartphone, android is a computer with a smartphone inside.

    Thats the TRUTH.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZXC3BYHWZRDWDYAET3B7WFUJ4 J

    the market share argument means little when discussing iOS and Android. it only stirs up pointless debates about which environment is better and has better prospects for the future. the fact is no one can predict the smartphone market. it is still in its infancy and is too volatile with RIM being a perfect example. if someone told me just a couple of years ago that RIM’s market share would plummet due to touch based phones, i would have thought that was the craziest thing i ever heard. yet, this is the present. i believe apple understands this volatility and is working their a**es off to ensure a profitable stakehold for the long term.

    as a developer with limited resources, i would like to see a comparison of the types of apps on the phones of android and iOS users. i firmly believe that apple the majority stake in the market of users who will pay for premium apps, but seeing some hard numbers would be beneficial.

  • Chris

    You are a fucking retard, stop trying to sound smart with your intro about how people fuck up the question and should rephrase it. Get to the point you dumbass

  • Jth9234

    I think the obvious problem with the Android OS is that its a much different experience from phone to phone. You use the higher end Android based phones, they are pretty good albeit terrible battery life.

    Cheaper Android phones just suck bad. Ditto for Blackberry phones, but at least the OS works the same way across all phones being its all made by RIM.

  • Anonymous

    You’re all just talking sh**. Smart phone to smart phone, the Android based ones are beating the iPhone hands down. Period. Don’t try skewing the numbers in your favor by comparing apples to oranges, by adding in iPads and iPods. That’s just the desperate ramblings of a few iPhonians. Oh, that’s a good one. I like that. :)

    I don’t care one way or the other. I don’t own any “smart phone”, and don’t plan on purchasing one anytime soon.

  • Infinity UK

    Tut.. so many Apple fanboi’s desperately trying to cover for the fact that Android is outselling IOS hand over fist simply because of Apple’s greed and their refusal to license IOS to other handset/tablet manufacturers. Steve Jobs has ONE thing right, and that’s how to overprice mediocre hardware and badge it as a fashion accessory.

    Take a look at computers as a whole for one moment, do we ALL share in Job’s positively socialist views that every piece of hardware should be standardised, locked-down and controlled? Nope, we have a choice of Windows, various flavours of Linux and other, slightly more fringe, operating systems. This is because people don’t WANT to all be the same (like Apple sheeple), they don’t WANT to live their lives according to the edict of one particular handset/tablet manufacturer especially one that is so controlling.

    Linux (upon which Android is based) comes in so many varieties and flavours simply because it allows the end-user input into, and modification of, itself (It’s how Android was born). This allows for the complete customisation of devices to how the hardware owner wants to use the hardware, which raises the question, does anyone with an IOS device truly OWN it?

    It’s not really even about numbers (as Android based devices are FAR outselling IOS based ones, more companies making them so it stands to reason) it’s more about the freedom to take that hardware and do whatever you want with it.

    So…. Android still wins, sorry Apple fanboi’s!

  • Infinity UK

    Ohhh… and MOST of the half-decent IOS apps are ported to Android anyway.. as the developers know that when it comes to market share, there are going to be FAR more Android devices floating around than Apple ones… food for thought.

  • chaz68

    That’ll change soon. The iPad has had little competition really from Android till now. iOS is innovative for its time but is progressing (due to its proprietary nature) more slowly than Android and that will tell on tablets. Watch for history repeating itself…

  • Rich_Marlow

    This is a spurious argument. Possibly the most misleading and spurious argument I have ever read! Pathetic.

  • http://www.thegraphicmac.com JimD

    Whoah. Somebody redirected my Loop bookmark to TechCrunch, right? This article was written by MG Siegler, right?

  • Dje23

    I thought Android were the biggest now, but so is windows, but i’ll keep my mac and iphone thanks… tried them all, ony the HTC comes close, buy a cheap fone running the same system and they stall, crash and stutter, like windows does on most hardware… Android is like Windows, Iphone like Mac, and once you go Mac, you never go back, fact.

    • engineer not fanboy

      Not to mention that the HTC Sense UI completely rips off both the iPhone and Mac OS X. They even ripped off the exposé feature in OS X, with their “pinch the home screen shows all the home screen” features. The funny thing is that people with Android phones will say how this is so much better than what Apple could ever do, not realizing that Apple has done it a long time ago. Widgets were on Mac OS X almost 10 years ago. These features (exposé and widgets) make more sense on a desktop computer. The Droid world is so bent on pathetic one-upmanship in useless ways, while there is no Android phone that can play Netflix. Droid features were thought up by a bunch of geeks who completely ignored what consumers want (security, video chat, apps, content). So this is what happens when geeks don’t listen to customers… they write a lot of code and make a product that people don’t care about. Many droid users are just Joe-consumers who got the cheap phone that was offered to them by their wireless company. They don’t do more than use the phone, maybe the browser. They don’t buy apps. You will see, when companies figure out that their Android app development efforts don’t pay off, they will stop dual developing, and just stick with iOS…

  • http://getyourgadgetsgoing.com Tristan Thomas

    It’s fact that smartphones are not sold the same way as iPods and iPads. It’s fact that the analytic firms sides smartphones off into their own category. It’s fact that the iPhones are the ONLY smartphones running iOS so comparing the iPhones to Android smartphones is the same as comparing iOS smartphones to Android smartphones

    • engineer not fanboy

      Actually, it’s a fact that iOS has more users than Android and even deskop Linux. It’s a fact that product managers will prefer to develop software for platforms that have more users. It’s a fact that Fandroids sound a lot like Mac fanboys from the late 90s! Ha ha ha…

  • DaveMTL

    Remember that dollar stores are opening everywhere, that does not mean that people are all that loyal to dollar store brands, they are loyal to the low price, often regardless of brand. Once they can afford a brand they like, they leave the dollar store brand. For now LG, Moto, Samsung and others have cheapo Android devices. Once Apple comes out with a iPhone Nano within range of the 2 for 1, 3 for 1, 4 for 1 Android phones, many will switch. For developers, what counts is where is the money going, volumes of non-purchasers means nothing to them.

  • engineer not fanboy

    Finally, someone has published what I have been saying for months. Unfortunately, as you can see by the comments, this will not sway Fandroids from their erroneous assumption that Android is the dominant platform. Being a software engineer who is knowledgeable of how product managers think, the first thing I looked at were OS market share stats. iOS is HUGELY successful, and is the 3rd most popular OS in the world, next to Mac OS X and Windows. Even beyond small devices, iOS holds it’s ground with full desktop operating systems, even eclipsing desktop Linux in market share. Android is #6, after Linux and Java ME.

    If we are to compare device sales, limit the sales data to the U.S. and smartphones only, then yes, Android has SOLD more units. (That’s applying a lot of criteria and doing some heavy filtering!) But what does this mean? I think that people tend to upgrade Android devices much sooner. There are a slew of cheap Android devices that would never run Froyo, so people had to ditch their older one to get a new one. The lifespan of a Droid smartphone is quite limited. They become obsolete in 6 months, while Apple is selling their old 3GS for $50 with a lot of success. I find the same is true with a Mac — you can upgrade it for years, whereas PCs typically require new hardware (in some cases, even going from Vista to 7 requires new hardware!). I expect to see another bump in Droid sales when the new Droid phones with DRM (that can play Netflix and other content) come out. Yes, you can’t do that on a Droid device, because Google spent too much time fiddling with widgets instead of delivering what people want — content. Actually, speaking to product management interests, consumers want security and video conferencing in smart phones. Apple delivers this much better. They did it by the product management book, and voila! They have successs. I really have to question the product management at Google and friends… Are they listening to what consumers want? They’re not clamoring for widgets and buggy Flash implementations.

  • engineer not fanboy

    The statistic that matters is operating system market share, because software developers make software for end users, not smart phones in land fills. Sure, iOS runs on smart phones, the iPod and the iPad. So what? That’s not a detraction. iPod and iPad users by apps. Why do Fandroids insist on keeping this comparison in the “sales of smart phone” ghetto? Because these misleading numbers make them seem like “winners” and the average Fandroids I know have low self esteems and need to prove that they make great consumer choices! They also HATE Apple. That’s unfortunate, because Android sales market share is dwindling. See, with their consumer base of Apple-haters (who don’t even realize how much Android has stolen from iOS and Mac OS X) that means that Windows Phone 7 devices, RIM, Symbian, may just have as much anti-Apple appeal as Android. This seems to be happening. I have also seen several studies that show the number of ex-Android users moving to iOS is much higher than the converse. A lot of Android users are ditching the droid for iOS!

    But the funniest thing I notice about Fandroids is that they really believe Google is a better company — they believe Google is more ethical and does no wrong (and will not admit that Google is worse with privacy both on their web apps and Android). Well, I actually know a few people who have worked at Google and gone on to better places after that. They don’t have great things to say about the place. Apple employees that I know LOVE Apple. As someone who switched to a Mac two years ago and owns an iPhone 4 (first smart phone I have owned), I wouldn’t consider myself an early adopter or an Apple fanboy. I will say that Apple products are better than what else is out there… What else IS out there? Copies of Apple products with buggy one-upmanship features like Adobe Flash that doesn’t work right. I’ll take Netflix, Hulu+, and the plethora of other apps that won’t be on Android for several more months. The widgets aren’t a good idea — not only do they drain the battery, but allowing 3rd party developers to modify systems settings, and having these widgets and apps sold in a market with no scrutiny is a bad idea. Google has had so many serious security flaws, but the press seems to go hog wild on Apple — everything from the b.s. of the “fatter” white iPhone, to the location privacy issue, which seems to be much worse with Android.

    It is refreshing to see what I have been telling people for months now. iOS has a larger market share than Android. Period.

  • Chelseaflash13

    this is the lamest thing everythign why do ya gotta aruge bout the stupidest things every get real lol

  • Methos495

    Ok, There is a problem with this whole argument…Who cares if a single phone has a greater market share than the others? When companies look at market share, all they care about is where they need to have their developers concentrate. This means that they look at OS, not hardware…now iPhones only run iOS and vice versa, so saying Android versus iPhone is actually quite accurate. If iOS ran on other hardware platforms, then this argument would hold water. Now the reason why these numbers are important is because the OS market share will drive where development will happen. It’s simple business sense. Because more people are buying android phone, more companies will invest in android development, thus growing the app market for android faster than that of iOS. And as we all know, the availability of apps is the most important feature for an OS to stay on top…Why do you think Windows is so popular still? So before everyone gets all in a huff about mis-matching android versus iPhone, think about what the articles are really saying.

  • Antoine

    Excuse my noobishness, i’ve read have of this discussion and couldn’t take any more ;-)

    Let’s take a simple example. Let’s say i have an amazing idea (i wish) and want to make it available to smartphone/tablet users.

    Which platform/OS should i develop my app on to reach the largest number of potential buyers ?

    Android for the combined android users or IOS for the apple users?

    Honest question, i have no smartphone at the moment and the answer will probably help me decide on my next phone upgrade, and which dev platform i have to learn about >.<

    Thanks

    Antoine

  • http://twitter.com/Zer0kbps Austen Lowe

    Apple have a better market share because their product is well marketed than andriod which is only just catching up, plus Android is fragmented marketing so it will take time to ever catch up. Consumers here a name and the sales people explain the useful facts. I am a techy, i use andriod because its more caperble than IOS

  • Anonymous

    They don’t compare hardware with software. Not to mention that the iPhone only runs the iOS.

    They compare operating systems and Android is the leading OS for smartphones according to comScore.

    Stop having straw-man arguments.

    The fact of the matter is that Android is going to smash the iOS no matter what stats you look at.

  • Mattaj34

    If there was only 1 Android phone…. say the droid X, then the Droid X sales would be higher then the Iphone. That’s the Truth!

  • Fair and Balanced

    I agree with this statement:

    “I think a fair comparison is phone to phone and tablet to tablet. I’d like to know how many Android powered phones shipped vs iOS (on iPhones only) and Android tablets vs iOS (on iPads only). That would be fair.”

    It’s just my opinion but I think the iPhone is a toy phone compared to a high quality Thunderbolt Verzion Android phone. Also, the trend for Android phones versus IOS phones shows Android gaining market share.

    You can bundle in all the i devices from apple and say they have great market share but they are not all phones. In the end I think google will win. Apple will always have their toy fan boys and girls.

    I typed this on a MacBook so I can tell the difference between an OS, phone, computer, tablet and media player, and I judge each one separately as one should.

  • Voodoomike

    Change one word in the title of this article (i.e. change “iPhone” to “IOS”) and it renders the whole thing worthless, which of course it is anyway.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Leerie-Simpson/1301402689 Leerie Simpson

    I understand the argument, and in many ways i agree. I think for the sake of simplicity though, as intelligent people, iOS and android are both operating systems so we should and can compare them as such. As far as the Mercedes, GM comment, it doesn’t equally apply unless we looked at the engines, not the models themselves. But all this is besides the point. There are your A class and S class benzes, but reguardless of which class or model GM vehicle you have, it ain’t a Benz. Sorry….

    So its a case of trying to compare a cheap os from google, that has multi manufacturer support, vs a streamlined solution coming from the original pioneers at apple.

  • http://rainabba.blogspot.com/ rainabba

    So compare apples to apples and droids to droids, THEN go look at momentum. Whether you compare iOS vs Android OS sales, LG phones running Android vs iPhone running iOS, Android tablets vs Apple tablets, etc… the same conclusion will appear. Apple had a head start and in most cases still holds majority market share over any other single entity (if only barely now), but that share is rapidly diminishing in favor or Android-centric devices. THAT is what developers care about. WE do not want to spend our precious time developing applications and services for a platform that is clearly slipping away; which is what is apparent to anyone not blinded by fan-boy-itus. What I choose to use personally does not taint my perspective here either. I want to make money and I won’t do it by developing for the wrong platform; one that provides few opportunities overall for my applications to sell (whether it be hardware, os, connectivity, etc..).

  • Alexos

    I think the numbers say only that Android smartphones numbers are bigger than iphone ones. It is the same when you compare Windows to Apple. Everyone understand.

  • http://www.justmobilephone.com/ android vs ios

     Nice thoughts..

  • Someone

    Windows vs Apple comparisons are everywhere. Apple doesnt compare their pc’s to ‘dell’ or HP. This is just rationalization by an iOS fan. THAT is the truth. Compare iOS phones to android phones if you want apples to apples. I have an iPhone but this is silly.

  • Tamper

    This is the same argument that was made when the PC clones started tallying up a bigger market share than MacOS in the late 80s. “It’s ridiculous to compare MacOS to the sum of all the disparate PCs. Let’s compare Apple to Everex.” In fact, Apple is already starting to repeat the same business strategy they sued HP and Microsoft over a garbage can on the HP NewWave Desktop and overlapping windows in Windows 2. Well at least HTC and Samsung have history on their side. 

    It mattered then and it will matter again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pslabaugh Paul Slabaugh

    Right…without a doubt. Android phones vs iPhones becomes THE differentiation of most significance as you become aware of the technologies and less confused by the goofy semantics of marketing that generate equally goofy views and statistics like …ahem. 

  • George

    Whatever helps you sleep at night, fanboi.

    • http://profiles.google.com/captain.zones Ronald Bell

      “Fanboi”… Oh wow. You got him. Because everyone knows that childish epithets are even more devastating when misspelled.

  • Android

    This is retarded. You can compare Windows to Mac Os regardless of manufacture running the software. Android is android regardless of which phone is running it. Simply put there are more cell phone users with android as the core OS than there is running iOS. That’s all that matters when it comes to marketshare.

  • Cedric

    You’re still mixing your metrics when you compare iOS devices to Android devices, simply because Apple have a evangelical sales ethos, and the vast majority of iPod and iPad sales will go to people who already have an iPhone. And a Macbook. And at least one other iPod. Market Share is ambiguous in itself, but as you chose to use the phrase “Apple reached 37.9 million people” you can effectively halve (if you’re being generous, it’s probably close to 1/3) the Apple customer base compared to the units shipped. That puts Apple at a max of 20 million, and even allowing for some customer duplication for Android will at best put them level. Sorry to shatter your devotion, but there you have it.

  • Mikemorgan

    Android is the winner.There is not android fault that Apple make only one phone. And Android has more than 100 handset in market.  Android is the biggest platform in the market.

  • tcoulon

    Using the same logic you can’t compare a Macintosh to a PC. The point is that Apple’s philosophy is of a closed market, while Google’s is of a (more or less) open market. Anyway, what’s important in the end? For me, it’s that I don’t want to be forced to use iTunes, I want to listen to my ogg files, and I want to be able to use my smartphone as a USB device. All this (plus complete freedom of contract) drove me towards Android, and even if Apple sold ten times more phones it would not change.

    • Anonymous

      The logic does in fact work, though I sense you are being sarcastic. You can compare Apple computers to Windows as a whole, if you must, because Apple computers are definitely the only devices that run OS X (leaving aside for the moment that iOS is an OS X derivative). By the transitive property,

      Comparing Windows to Mac OS is valid Mac OS == Apple Macintosh computers Therefore comparing Windows to Macintosh computers is valid.

      The same cannot be said of iOS:

      Comparing Android to iOS is valid iOS != iPhone Therefore comparing Android to iPhone is not valid

  • Mark Anderson

    This article makes most people out to be idiots. I’m not sure what its like in the US, but here in the UK, most people decide their phone based on the operating system, not the hardware. There is marginal difference in hardware between the latest Galaxy S and the latest iphone. The biggest difference is the OS. A lot of people don’t know squat about operating systems and will go with an iphone because its trendy. Granted iOS is a good OS and appears very complete when combined with OS X. However, Android, being more customisable and up-to-date (with rolling releases) is much more popular as an OS for a phone. This is obvious if you compare the iOS phone market share with the Android phone market share (something this review is afraid to do). iOS only ships on iphones. Android ships on several different brands of phone. Obviously, in terms of phone, it is logical to compare Android to iphone, unless you’re afraid of the outcome. From someone that has moved from Windows, to Mac, to Linux, (based on user-friendliness at the time) I find this kind of loyalty and defence of a brand sickening and pathetic.

    • Anonymous

      You are not understanding the article. The author is agreeing with you: you compare Android to iOS. But iPhone is not the only iOS device. Software is part of the equation, but even if you choose “Android over iOS”, then you still need to decide on which Android phone. Motorola doesn’t enjoy the profit if you buy a Samsung or an HTC. It doesn’t care what the Android market share is, it only cares what the Droid phone’s market share is.

      Google, which does not profit from any of the phone sales, cares about how many Android devices are out there, compared to iOS devices. Android, too, runs on more than just phones, and an Android installation on a Motorola Xoom tablet is just as valuable to Google as one on an HTC whatever phone. Google is concerned only with OS reach.

  • Toots McGoots

    You really do want to compare the iPhone (and it’s underlying OS) to the Android OS if you are developing an app. 

    • Anonymous

      You want to compare all iOS devices against Android OS, since the app you are developing (with the exception of apps that make use of iPhone’s phone functions) is selling to a market that includes iPod Touch and iPad users.

    • Anonymous

      You want to compare all iOS devices against Android OS, since the app you are developing (with the exception of apps that make use of iPhone’s phone functions) is selling to a market that includes iPod Touch and iPad users.

  • Ken-SanDiego

    Liar! What a pitiful excuse for an article. If you are going to be an Apple fanboy at least do it without twisting statistics to suit your point of view.

    FACT (citing his own report): Android kicks iPhone butt in popularity:

     “Google Inc.’s Android might be the most popular smartphone platform, but if you add other mobile devices like tablets to the mix, Apple Inc.’s iOS beats Android in the U.S. by a wide margin — 59% to be exact.”

    He actually added in 3 distribution sources for iPhone and only 2 for Android in order to achive his desired statistical result. Remove the iPods from the equation (since the droid comparison does not contain a similar device) and AGAIN Android kicks Apple butt.

    The author should be ashamed of himself for passing himself off as a journalist.

    • Anonymous

      No, Ken, I think you should be the ashamed one. The author is not suggesting that iPhone > Android. He is claiming that iOS > Android, and that that is the only comparison that is relevant. If you must compare iPhone (a device) to something, it should be against each other device. If you’re going to compare Android (an OS) to something, it should be against iOS, which means all devices running iOS.

    • Anonymous

      No, Ken, I think you should be the ashamed one. The author is not suggesting that iPhone > Android. He is claiming that iOS > Android, and that that is the only comparison that is relevant. If you must compare iPhone (a device) to something, it should be against each other device. If you’re going to compare Android (an OS) to something, it should be against iOS, which means all devices running iOS.

  • Anonymous

    TThis article doesn’t make sense. How can apple have shipped 47 million Iphones in 2010 when in the paragraph he says 38 million people are using iOS? I’ve read it 3 times am I miss something?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=583336384 Martin Sack

    Of course we see PCs and operating systems being compared:   “hello im a pc, and im a Mac….:”And it does make sence. It does makle sense because the Iphones OS runs only on Iphones. Therefore the Iphone and its OS are synonymous. 

    • Anonymous

      iPhone != iOS.

      iPhone + iPod Touch + iPad == iOS.

      That is the author’s point.

    • Anonymous

      iPhone != iOS.

      iPhone + iPod Touch + iPad == iOS.

      That is the author’s point.

  • Anonymous

    Dude. The iPod Touch isn’t just an MP3 player. It’s an iPhone minus a 3G and phone radio.

  • Milu

    Nice try, but no. When they compare Android vs iPhone they really compare Android vs iOS. It just happens that only apple (can) sells devices with iOS, but that’s their marketing strategy for obvious reasons. Let’s say there are 3 manufacturers for iOS: iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 4. Now you understand..

    • Anonymous

      iPhone is not the only device running iOS. iPod Touch is, also, and so is iPad. The author’s point is that to make a valid comparison of iOS vs. Android, you should include all iOS devices against all Android devices.

  • Guest

    Nothing like bending over backwards to try to make Apple come out on top.  Only the iPhone runs iOS (the mobile variant) and all iOS phones are iPhones.  You’re saying “you can’t ask the question what is there more of Linux or Windows?” just because there are multiple flavors of Linux.  Wrong.  So really the argument does come down to which is more prevalent – Android or iOS?  And this matters because of apps and features.  If I switch from an HTC Evo to a Motorola Droid I don’t think twice because both are Android and I can do everything I could previously do.  You could say the same about going from an iPhone 3 to an iPhone 4.  On the other hand, if I switch from a Palm 700p to a Blackberry then EVERYTHING changes.  Different OS layout, different apps, everything.  So yes, people care about the OS.  And yes it makes sense to ask the question “which has more users, Android or Apple?”  I’m a developer.  Wouldn’t I care about that answer if I’m writing a mobile app?  Of course.  I don’t care who makes the hardware, I want to know how many handsets can run my app if it is written for a particular OS.

    • Anonymous

      There is no “bending over backwards” here. You are in fact in agreement with the author: you compare Android to iOS. His point is that most comparisons you see out there in the wild compare all Android devices against just the iPhone, and the iPhone is not the only device that runs iOS. You as a consumer gain the benefit of all the iOS devices sold that are not iPhone (see my other comments above this one; more iOS devices translates to a more lucrative market for developers which in turn translates to more applications for the platform).

  • Servicefly

    When using the term Market Share you should be referring to overall sales based on revenue! If more Android phones are purchased in the US than iPhones, then Android takes the market for phone OS in the US. If more apps are purchased from the Android market than the iPhone market, then Android takes the app market on sales, but not necessarily on revenues. It is known that iPhone owners tend to willingly pay more for apps than Android owners and more apps on Android are free. But wait, Android apps are starting to make more money on advertising by providing more free apps!

    What market do you really care about?

    • Anonymous

      It does make some sense to compare revenue share. Apple enjoys, by far, the largest profit share in the mobile phone industry. The last I checked Apple enjoys over half of all the profit in the industry, compared to all other phone manufacturers combined. I don’t know if that’s true currently, but it has been true (at least documented in some way) for much of the iPhone’s life span.

      But that is not what most market share studies are measuring, they are measuring units sold. Reasonable people can debate whether that’s valuable or not, but that’s what is being measured.

  • Shockholly

    What a ridiculous argument. “You can’t compare iPhone to Android”. Of course you can. It’s a comparison between platforms, it’s the same as comparing Macs with Windows-based PCs. The fact that Apple use a closed architecture and they manufacture their own hardware has no bearing on whether comparisons can be drawn between market share of the platforms.

    By the very nature of their design, Apple’s iPhone will ultimately hold less market share. On the flip side, their profit margins per device are much higher as they manufacture the hardware as well as the software. As a result Apple are able to maintain the same profit levels for a much smaller market share.

    That’s just the nature of the beast.

    DUHHHHH!!!!

    • Anonymous

      You’ve missed the entire point of the article. You cannot compare Android to iPhone. You can compare Android to iOS, which is broader than just iPhone. As a consumer you are not just interested in the hardware, you are interested in the software. If you choose iPhone then you as a consumer are getting a benefit from iPod Touch and iPad sales. More iOS == more developers interested in developing for iOS == more applications for iOS. With only some exception, developers are developing for iOS, not for iPhone in particular.

      The argument is sound and relevant.

  • http://twitter.com/sidewinder2180 kyle ryun

    I choose the Android os over ios!! Then I choose the phone that ran Android os!! I looked at a HTC Incredible and the Motorola Droid X and the Motorola Droid 2. I got the Droid 2!!! b/c I wanted the Android os and like the real keypad the Droid 2 has! Android forever! Fyi yes I had an iphone for about 4 month’s then sold it to my sister!!! I love my Droid 2 and Android os!!!

  • Rik

    When you compare it is vital not to compare apples and oranges. It  is true that one can’t compare android with Iphones as this is comparing hardware with software. However, in the article it continues to compare Ipods and IPAD’s sales with Android sales. This in itself is incorrect and futhermore: irrelevant. IPOD sales figures add nothing to the bigger picture even if they are installed with IOS…

    If one has to compare, compare the combined android PHONE sales with the Iphone sales and the combined android Tablets with the IPADS… etc,etc

    This should provide usefull data.

    • Anonymous

      That’s incorrect. iPod Touch sales mean more iOS installations, which means more potential users for apps written on iOS. Though there is a difference between iPad products and iPhone products, in general if you’re an app developer you probably (with some exception are developing for all iOS products. A sale to an iPod Touch owner is just as valuable to you as a sale to an iPhone owner, and thus iPod Touch sales are indeed an important metric.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_32JDONGA2JPO7VL4VWRW5FUNLE Guillem Sola

    despite the mac-like header on this site when people talks about iPhone they mean an IOS phone phowered, wherever version it is using. In the same way when people talks about Android, that is a software stack that, means any device running android OS.

    With it’s actual policies IOS will never, never, never have more users than android. Here we will have the same as in Mac vs Windows flamewar.

    Probably that will mean that android application will have more users than iphone so will produce more incomes to developers on sales, adwords… who knows, apple is always doing excellent marketing campaigns. Have in mind that apart from geeks (like you and me xD ), people basically want technology to serve them and at a good price.

  • Dtg755

    Nice but what is the point in arguing about this? Do you feel superior if the type of phone you chose wins? Totally pointless and stupid

    • Anonymous

      See my response to stinkybob. You have skin in the game because you don’t want whichever OS you’ve chosen to lose developers, and thus apps.

  • Anonymous

    Silly comments all around.

    Thanks for the great article info. I’m a developer launching a multiple-device game and this market info was helpful.

  • thia

    earlier nokia mobile in india were leading sales ……but now every one knows fight is going on with   china mobile and samsung like that driod and iphone 

  • http://www.wix.com/norbertyap/happyteam stinkybob

    who cares about market share? does it make us rich when either of these companies mentioned here sells or not? its their problem to fight over the market pie. We as consumers knows what’s best for us and to our pockets. The question is.. why people prefer one thing to another? is it about the price versus value?, cost and worth are two different things but we can’t deny that cost prevails and with that being said we know who tops the market by looking on how much they sell their garbage. the cheaper the shit the more likely people would buy…and to compare for example iPad vs. Samsung Galaxy in terms of price.. I prefer the latter because it offers the same basic functionality for a cheaper cost…. ask yourself  why would you prefer a more expensive shit when you know they both have the same stink…

    • Anonymous

      If market share translates to ecosystem robustness (it might not, but it might), then it does matter to the consumer. If you are going to make a personal investment in a phone or tablet or device that runs either iOS or Android, then you have a stake in the market share because if the ecosystem is healthy that maximizes the utility of the device.

  • MkUltra

    Its perfectly legitimate to compare operating systems, we’ve been doing it for decades.  Window versus Mac OS.  Then you choose hardware.  In the case of Widows you have a wide variety of hardware providers compared to Mac OS where you have just one hardware provider.

     

    When making the decision on my cell phone I first chose the operating system (Android) then chose a hardware provider. Of course in the cell phone world you have the added complication of Cell Phone plan to consider.

     

    The resistance by iPhone folks (including Apple) to make the comparison on operating system is because they don’t want to admit that Android has experience rapid growth while iPhone’s growth has been less robust.  And they fear that Android will become the dominate operation system in the market.  Therefore they try to hide this fact by saying people are really making a hardware choice and thus distribute the total Android OS market over multiple providers.

    • Anonymous

      Not sure you’re understanding correctly. Jim is comparing OS to OS, not avoiding so. He is also comparing hardware to hardware. In the OS comparison, he compares iOS (all devices running iOS) versus Android (all devices running Android). Then in hardware, he compares iPhone against each other kind of phone on the market.

      You don’t compare iPhone to all Android devices on a hardware comparison. And you don’t compare all Android against just iPhone in the OS comparison. But you don’t have to avoid all comparisons. Just the illogical ones.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FCAHRME4VEZJ6VHOAK2GIJ2ENY Elaine Morin

    I paid $32.67 for a XBOX 360 and my mom got a 17 inch Toshiba laptop for $94.83 being delivered to our house tomorrow by FedEX. I will never again pay expensive retail prices at stores. I even sold a 46 inch HDTV to my boss for $650 and it only cost me $52.78 to get. Here is the website we using to get all this stuff, LiveCent.com

  • Slepkava

    iPhone is ONE phone. When people refer to Android market share they refer to a collection of all phones running android.

    It’s stupid to compare one phone (iPhone) to multiple phones (45+ android powered phones)

  • The Unbiased Truth

    so you think its fair to compare all iOS devices that have been sold (and probably out of comission) to android!? lol at your logic. The truth is that when you compare android smart phones to ‘iOS’ smart phones, android wins. especially with new activation’s. The truth is iphone’s are boring. The truth is Android app market is bigger and Android dominates the smart phone market. Now quit crying. 

  • Devildogmrk

    I think you have totally missed the point of all the articles and data being presented. The point being that iOS (with IPhone included) is seriously losing market share with each passing day.  Quite simply with more devices supporting the OS, more openness (open source code), and comparable (if not superior) capabilities and performance, iOS (and the IPhone) are going to have to re-invent themselves in order to keep devices running Android from surpassing them. And with higher and higher percentages of people how own phones switching to smart phones, and the majority of those buying and/or switching to Android, it merely a matter of time before devices running iOS will no longer be the majority and they themselves will find themselves playing the catch-up game.  To quote a popular advertisement, Apple better get an umbrella cause it is raining cold hard facts up in here.

  • Jims_Wrong

    This who article is completely bias and completely wrong.

    First of all the writer goes on a rant about those who mistakenly use the word “iPhone” over “iOS” for half the article. Also, lets not forget that the article is, ironically, named “Android vs iPhone.”

    Secondly his numbers are completely stacked and bias against google’s Android.

    The only true comparison that can be made is between iOS and Android OS both for the mobile phone platform. iPads came out way before any Android tablet was officially released and iPods have been around years and have had virtually no competition in that market and still do not(There’s no interest in that market, it’s dying off and even Apple are giving up on it)! Comparing Android to iOS on mobile devices shows that in just two short years Android has overtaken iOS worldwide and continues to grow, gaining users from both iOS and RIM. We even see that Apple is stealing ideas from Android now with the implimentation of the Android toolbar in the next iteration of iOS for iPhone 5.

    The only truth to anything Apple vs [any company] is that Apple is going to fall into the same LOOP that’s INSIGHT and fall flat on it’s backside like it has three times before. I hate to say it but when Steve Jobs passes on, which is reportedly soon given his current condition(Sorry to say), Apple will suffer just as MicroSoft did when Bill Gates stepped down as CEO except they’ll most likely feel it more so than MicroSoft as Steve Jobs is recognised as the man behind everything that is apple(Even the Apple III although you’d like to forget that “little” mistake). On top of that Apple have virtually no shares in Personal Computers. 5%, if even, is NOTHING compared to  MicroSoft with over 90% of the PC market share in OS and is not a number Apple could hope to survive on. iPods are reaching an end(As all media players are) and the iPad is simply a fad with no practical use. People still use their laptops over tablets for reading, gaming and typing and this won’t change. iPhones are being overtaken by phones running Android and can’t possibly expect to compete with their standard yearly iterations of mobile phones in comparison to HTC, Samsung and LG releasing better and better phones atleast every six months between them. Then take into consideration that on release the iPhones are behind the curve as this has been the case with the iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. I’d say even the most loyal of iOS users would find it hard to pass up on a Samsung Galaxy S II when their beloved iPhone 5 finally arrives. Honestly, if Apple want to survive in the mobile phone market they really need to work wonders with the iPhone 5.

    Keep living in your own world, Jim.

  • Mike

    Interesting that this article starts of with a fair arragant tone saying how everyone else got it wrong and then proceeds to be completely flawed.

  • Anonymous

    It’s quite unfortunate that while the point of the article was to point out a supposed discrepency in other articles it is flawed in it’s very core. Nobody compares Android with iPhone. Android is compared to iOS. What I’d reccomend for the author is to stop whining about decreasing market share of Apple and actually try to write a sensible article on it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDFSVGDU5ZI7OZ5Q2QIMG5JZNY Mark

    This article is an amusing failure of basic mathematics. “Apple … outpacing Motorola by more than three times.”

    iPhones manufactured by Apple = 100% of the iPhone market share. Phones manufactured by Motorola = 28% of the Android market share

    28% x 3 means by your own claim, Apple is only selling 84% of the Android-based phone market share.

    Here’s a tip for you: if you’re going to claim that your product is selling three times more than your competitors, you should pick a representative competitor that’s selling at least one third of the product you’re comparing yourself to. And if you want to appear even remotely unbiased, you’d pick the largest representative competitor.  HTC holds 36% of the Android market share. Those two manufacturers alone comprise 25% of the total smartphone market, just 3 points behind Apple. Add Samsung’s 8% of the total smartphone market, and you can just ignore the other 3 manufacturer’s 6% because the game’s over.

  • Morgan

    There are two intertwined markets to consider: hardware and software.  The underlying idea that everyone is judging is the overall approach to smartphones.  This idea includes both topics.

    People compared Windows Mobile phones, Blackberrys, and iPhones long before Android became a player.  If you look at computers, it’s the same way.  Comparing Apple to Dell or Apple to Acer isn’t nearly as useful of a statistic to people as comparing Mac OS X to Windows 7.

    These companies have different approaches to making smartphones, and that overall idea is most accurately measured by the OS.  Microsoft builds a closed source operating system and licenses it to vendors.  RIM develops the Blackberry’s operating system and builds the hardware for them.  Apple develops iOS and builds the iPhones for them.  Then Android develops the operating system, builds phones for it, and also licenses the software to vendors.

    One mistake I hear people make frequently is that “people don’t buy smartphone OSs.”  This statement is misguided, because, in general, people put more weight on what smartphones can do and how they operate, than how they’re made or who they’re made by, which is often an afterthought in fine-tuning their choice (if there is a choice like with Android or Windows Mobile/Windows Phone 7).

    If you ask people why they chose their smartphones, the responses you get will most-consistently be the features of the OS, with screen size and options available at the time of purchase being the deciding factors between brands of hardware.

  • Guest

    I disagree with comments about people who say they don’t know about operating system.  I work for a cell phone place and people come in and they either say they want an apple phone or and android phone.  They actually don’t care about the manufacturer. 

  • Guest

    I disagree with comments about people who say they don’t know about operating system.  I work for a cell phone place and people come in and they either say they want an apple phone or and android phone.  They actually don’t care about the manufacturer. 

  • http://twitter.com/craigthegeek Craig Pay

    What a dimwitted article full of immature bias. You have some major gaps in your logic like “We don’t see reports of Windows 7 being compared to a Dell computer”. No and we don’t see Macs being compare with Dell either–we compare Macs with Windows PCs. So we compare iPhone OS with Android OS in exactly the same way. iPhone market share 28%, Android market share 39%. Truth.

  • http://twitter.com/BenjaminZAMayo Benjamin Mayo

    OMG. It’s simple. The Android vs iPhone studies are “unfair” because they are comparing the size of two different metrics, an OS and an individual phone.

    In order to get a truly fair metric, you have to compare sales of all iOS devices against all Android devices. Not just phones, not just tablets, everything.

    Is that really too hard to understand?

  • matt

    Android based smartphones are more popular then iOS based smartphones.  Some apple fanboy is upset about the statistics, so he is skewing the statistics to favor the iPhone.  The fact that so much energy went into this article only proves that the masses are only comparing andriod based phones against the iPhone.

  • Njkilgore99

    To make apple as good as android you have to jailbreak

  • Njkilgore99

    The i in ios is for i as in iphone ipad and ipod

  • Cindel

    Wow, this article is fairly misleading itself.

    When you compare an iphone to an android phone you are comparing an iOS using phone to an Android using phone. If phones other than the iphone came with iOS then your Dell vs Windows 7 analogy might make a lick of sense. So phones that run the Android OS are outselling iphones. It seems pretty simple to me.

  • Stewart Hall

    Its not like comparing Windows 7 to Dell. Its like comparing Windows 7 to Mac. Which you can do because with Apple, their hardware and OS is paired. Its a single entity. There are no iPhones not running iOS and there are no (legitimate) android devices running iOS.

  • Anonymous

    Comparing phone-to-phone, Android is winning.  There are more phones running Android than there are phones running iOS. Comparing OS-to-OS, Apple is winning, primarily because while they are a little bit behind on phones, they are far ahead on tablets and I don’t think there’s even a Droid equivalent of the “iPod Touch”.

  • B P

    Look, even people that don’t know the operating systems from the hardware or the service providers, such as the earlier blogger’s mom, have often been shown the abilities of certain phones by friends or family. They may not know the correct terms, but they do know what they want their phones to do. Many people, after friends and family show them, want to be able to download apps. There, they have basically 2 choices (disregarding the soon to be defunct Symbian), either an Iphone or an phone with android. I looked at price, Iphone being ridiculously expensive when compared to android. Next I looked at freedom to tinker with OS, the Iphone seeming to be more rigidly locked up. Next I looked at hardware, I’m in love with HTC, and you  can get some very nice phones for waaaay below the Iphone price tag. That cinched it for me, Android all the way, and my first Android at that (HTC Mytouch 4g), I’m lovin it. I believe that Android may take over eventually.

  • Anonymous

    I agree… so, let’s just compare Android to iOS and watch the trends. Certainly, Apple decided it wanted to maintain full control over how an iOS device is created whereas Google went in a different direction! Overall, the battle between the two platforms seems to just be getting started. Apple’s platform had quite the head start and is still running strong, but Android is bulking up its muscle! Time will tell!

  • Martin Alcock

    Flawed and inaccurate thinking and poorly formed conclusions, with a strong bias to Apple based products. The bottom line is that iOS is used by only one manufacturer and Android by many, ergo it is inevitable that Android will eventually outstrip iOS in unit sales. The only other major contender is RIM, take those two out and you have about 50% market share left, where Android will dominate. QED.

  • Bill Kress

    Wow.  So do you also think that people compare Apple to Dell sales?  Not really, it’s OSX vs Windows.  This is just a natural categorization–consider it “If I make an app, where will it run”.

    Apple blew open the application market for phones–what matters now is not who makes the handset–it’s now a computer.  What matters is what apps will run on it.

    No reviewer worth his salt would compare iPhones to Android–he would compare iOS to Android.

    I really love my iPhone, but Apple fans disgust me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1368032580 James E. Burkett

    You saying Android shouldn’t be compared to the iPhone is stupid. What sells the iPhone? Certainly not it’s massively outdated hardware specs- The OS is What Sells the iPhone. Period. Being that Android is an OS, and iOS sells the iPhone, they can certainly be compared. Your argument is worthless.

  • Rj

    I was with Windows Mobile for 5 years. After awhile I decided that it just couldn’t keep up with some of the other smart phones on the market. I decided I didn’t want an I Phone because it seemed to be to limited despite the amount of apps it has available.  I knew that the best choice for me was Android. I love Samsung’s S amoled screens so I was to get a Galaxy S device. Soon after I heard that MS was to come out with a successor to Win Mo 6.5, which was just to outdated for me, called Windows Phone 7. I was skeptical of windows Phone 7 because of the lack of support MS had displayed with Win Mo 6.x. As time went on, while I waited for my upgrade, I read more and more about this new and upcoming OS from MS and I began to really get exited about it. It finally came out and the reviews were very positive. This was my chance to be outside of the box of not only IOS but also the growing Android trend. I wanted to be cutting edge so I set my mind on WP7. I finally upgraded and chose the Samsung Focus, which is kin to the Samsung Galaxy S line. I have to say that it is one of the best decisions I have made. This OS is the most fluent and responsive I have tried out so far. It has the most modern look and feel of any user interface you can get. Thousands of apps are available, although not as many as IOS or Android yet, but you won’t be missing any of the ones that you really need and want. These aren’t just apps they are some of the best quality apps that have been custom made for this beautiful new interface. Once you see a WP7 app, let’s say E bay for example, you will wish your phone had WP7′s version of it because it utilizes the metro look and feel of WP7. The applications, this fall, will be able to “connect” data to each other, another Windows Phone 7 first of many innovations.

    Some other must have features included in every Windows Phone 7 device are live tiles that update themselves automatically, a Xbox fully installed on each device, MS office, including word, power point, excel and share point, a Zune player fully installed on each device, full Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn integration on each device etc. Notice I said “each device” because Microsoft wants everyone to experience the best of WP7.

    Times change and nothing good last forever. If you are to devoted to your current OS and aren’t even interested in seeing what Windows Phone 7 is about you could get stuck in the past with a 5 year old UI format. WP7 is the future of smartphones! If you don’t believe me pick a functioning device up and give it a whirl. I bet your first reaction will be that your device seems to have a more outdated look and feel to it and your second reaction will be how easy and fluid Windows Phone 7 really is in comparison.

    Good job team Windows Phone 7 and Microsoft for going the extra mile with these phones. I am so proud to be a part of the newest revolution in mobility.

  • http://www.facebook.com/johelmaza Johel Antonio Maza

    I think when people want to compare “iPhone to Android” what they really care is about the phones and which one has sold more. People don’t want to get into it as if it is a hardware or a software. While you say that you can’t compare a hardware to a software, I can tell you that you can’t compare an iPod or iPad to a phone either. The iPod was out for many years before we even knew of the word droid outside of Star Wars.

    Same thing goes with tablets, if you compare the time that apple had a pad out vs the time that androids powered tablets have been out off course apple is going to be on top. But I think the real comparison that at least I would like to know is: What are the numbers when you compare the total number of phones powered by apple, vs the number of phone powered by android. If you don’t add the number of mp3 players that apple sold for years so that Apple’s numbers look better, I think Android is gaining on apple at a fast rate and if it hasn’t surpassed it by now it will happen. And very soon.

  • http://twitter.com/ItsPatLogic Patrick McGonigle

    I dont care about market share, I care about who’s better and I can tell you that I did a comparison with MY Samsung Galaxy SII vs my mates iPhone 4.. and the Galaxy S2 was slicker, faster, better quality graphics and did things the iPhone could not AND even has Adobe Flash Player..

    But since people are so gullible that they keep buying Apple because they’re victims of advertising hype, and dont actualy realise that there are better choices out there.. So the market share just really proves how many gullible idiots are really out there!

    The apple is poison… dont byte!

    • Anonymous

      You do realize that the SG2 is quite a bit newer than an iPhone 4 don’t you?

  • Francistracy1

    I have a htc sensation and it will run circles around a iPhone and that’s the bottom line period!

  • Jameson Williams

    I stopped reading after the first few sentences because you sounded like you were nit-picking and missing the point.

  • Chaeska

    Uhm – the article is pretty confused about something. Everybody knows that you can’t compare Apple vs all the single companies producing Android devices but you can VERY MUCH compare Smartphone OS market share, which is the interesting part, since this is what the end user is dealing with – all Android devices share the same functionality, app store etc. The big comparison is thus between Google and Apple in this case. It’s like saying you can’t compare MacOSX vs Windows market share because there are so many manufacturers of Windows OEM systems…

  • Andy Droid

    Another Apple Fan Boy twisting, manipulating and mangling statistics in a weak attempt to save his rotting Apple from the trash can. Don’t worry too much. Apple spends so much on advertising and has herded such a huge flock of lemmings, they can put an Apple logo on a turd and get people to buy it. iPhone is dead, long live Android.

  • Steady Unit

    Hardware market share matters to hardware manufacturers, OS market share matters to consumers. From Apple’s point of view, sure it’s good that they have a huge hardware market share, but from my point of view, as a consumer, I’d be stupid to buy an Iphone. Just like Macs vs PCs, they cost a hell of a lot more and don’t actually work any better. What matters to consumers, whether they know it or not, is that their OS has a high market share> And things have moved on a bit since this article was written, If someone asked me what sort of phone I had, I’d say ‘Android’.

  • Hamish

    Just look at the Hardware developers profits, those that only make mobile devices in mass majority and make up your own mind as to who is doing well. Much easier and very clear who’s winning!

  • A d s

    why do apple users feel so threatened about competitors products?

  • Ctdorji

     we are user of the samsung galaxy s2 which has featured with android market, we like the android market very much with its featured but there should be more language script in the market, like i phone does,, eg  Tibetan script called(phurba) so on …….  this Tibetan script can be very useful to all those Buddhist countries or those who learn Buddhism or interested to learn the script.. any how it would be more complete with variation of script from all over the world

  • Steve5805

    Ehm… no sh!t sherlock.  To use iOS demands that you use the iPhone, whereas the same does not hold for Android.  This gives an advantage to the latter.  This what happens when you only let one company (namely, your own) manufacture hardware for your software.  Apple didn’t learn their lesson from the PC/Mac battle, so now they’ll pay the price.  Again.

  • Jakob Kobberholm

    Dear Mr. Dalrymple,

    I know this article is getting old now, but I still feel this deserves a comment.

    First off, I got to this page, by googling “iOS Android market share”, so at least, I deserve some credit for knowing the difference between an OS and a device.

    I clicked and read four out of the first five Google hits, getting the information I was looking for and then I clicked this (number 6), simply because I assumed it was a bullshit propaganda article based on the headline. I had no clue if it was pro-Android or iOS, but any article titled “The truth about ….” will trigger my bullshit-o-meter any day…

    … and you didn’t disappoint!

    When people search for “iPhone vs Android”, they are comparing PLATFORMS, not OSes or devices and you seem smart enough to know this, so I must assume you are trying to spread misinformation and not any “truth” as you claim to be about.

    My search phrase of “iOS vs Android” is actually less correct, than the “iPhone vs Android” phrase, because the results of my search might include unintended devices and platforms, such as media players and tablets, that are clearly competing for shares of different markets, when in fact, I just want to know how many “Android Phones” are on the market compared to how many iPhones.

    To make this more clear, if I were to search for “Linux vs Windows market share”, it would be assumed (and correctly so), that I am talking about PCs and possibly servers, running some Linux distro, compared to the same type of devices running some version of Windows. NO-ONE would assume I wanted to include Android and WebOS devices under the Linux search and HP printers printers (running embedded Windows XP and Windows CE) under the Windows search.

    So all these other sites in my Google search, got the point right. You got it wrong. They gave me the correct result (I can’t speak for the accuracy of their numbers though) and you gave me misinformation.

  • Dan Marinescu

    android os is better! it’s open, it’s got more than one vendor, it’s really multi-tasking and safe, it’s got plenty of applications, they’re no natzies in android market or amazon app store, the architecture and design are elegant, it’s easy to develop for, it’s not tide on cheap languages from the early 80s, etc, etc, etc android will win and apple will be defeated, again. 

  • Hamish

    Oh grow up Dan Marinescu. No need for a fight! Are you religious be any chance or a red-neck? Both can and should exist happily working to help push each-other forward.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DMWLU6F5U5247DEE4ZTWQI4TVE kaci

    My issue with this article, and quite honestly with many of the responses, is the assumption that consumers are idiots.  Some are, I will grant you.  The way I see it – since really, that’s all this comes down to – is that while you argue that you can’t compare “iPhone to Android” because it is hardware vs. OS, in reality it is a little more than that.  If you want a Mac, it’s made by Apple.  If you want a PC, they are made by multiple companies.  There are various OS(s) that can be loaded on a PC, but a Mac runs Apple’s OS.  It is this same issue with the phones.  If you want iOS – you buy an iPhone.  If you want a phone running Android you have a ton of companies to choose from and multiple models from each.  

    The other issue I’ve always had is this:  market share just proves a company has better marketing, it does not prove they have a better product.  McDonald’s sells more hamburgers than anyone in the world.  Are McDonald’s hamburgers the best in the world?  (I’m sorry if you answer that with a ‘yes’ :-) )

  • Joe

    This article is TOTALLY FLAWED! It is caught up in symantics and totally missing the point. First off, what people want to compare are the market share of the major smart phone players (Apple based vs. Android based vs. Microsoft based, etc.) Its like comparing a MAC to a PC. (We all know that the MAC runs one operating system and offers one experience, while the PC typically runs Microsoft operating systems offering another experience.)

    Here are the actual facts on the current market share (Aug 2011):   Apple Iphone – 27%   Android based smartphones – 41 (You cant compare apple to just one Android based phone manufacturer)

  • Fogster

     I chose Android over iOS, due to the availability (and total cost of ownership) of the underlying hardware. More so, as I start to invest in the OS (both monetary investment – as I purchase Apps – and time investment – as I become familiar with and learn to use the OS), I become increasingly tied to that OS so that, when purchasing my next smart phone, I’ll look to not waste that investment. To suggest that ‘all’ people have no clue as to what OS is running on their device is untrue. My father is totally technically illiterate but, when he comes to upgrade, his question will be (he’s an iPhone user) – “is it the same to use as my last phone? Can I get the same apps?”… without even realising it, he’s seeking out the same OS.

    An Android Smartphone vs iPhone Smartphone comparison seems fair. If Apple changed from Foxcomm to another manufacturer but both sets fo devices ran the same OS, would you consider that a third group? Of course not, that would be absurd.

  • Kimberly Friend

    Did anyone notice that the figures in the article don’t make sense?  First it states that Apple shipped 47.9 iphones, but then it states that iOS is only reaching 37.49.  If it is true that all iphones run iOS, then the numbers cannot possibly be correct.  If the numbers are incorrect, the author’s credibility is negated. 

    Not to mention that what people really want to know most of the time is how many phones are running Android vs. iOS.  Since all iphones run on iOS, most people just simplify and compare Android to iPhone understanding that they’re really talking about the different operating systems.  

  • Hobbes714

    OK…so the way I read this is that people who buy Android phones are stupid and iPhone buyers are smart consumers.  Boy, that’s pretty elitist (in a bad way) thinking. 

    • Jgluck1997

      apparently u live in the middle of nowhere iphone is not better than android, sorry buddy:(

  • Matt

    Is there anyway to ‘dislike’ this article? I think the author needs to get his head out of his ass and realize that when used in this way people are not actually talking about hardware or software alone, but platform.

  • Hobbes714

    What happened to my post?

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  • Some guy

    The article is totally right, the iphone vs the disparate android handsets is very Evil Empire vs the Rebel Alliance.  

  • ExposeTheLiars

    Other than the author being a complete fanboy moron spewing lies using twisted stats, the premise is no longer valid. Android just creamed IOS in market share. Android handsets dominate IOS handsets, AND Android tablet shares blow away IOS tablet shares. Too bad, so sad, bye-bye. Up yours.

    • Jgluck1997

      suck on that iphone fanboy

      • Jgluck1997

        suck on that,iphone fanboy**

  • Jgluck1997

    100% disagree with this currently, more people worldwide have an android device than an iphone.. also android is soooo much better than the iphone •the ram allows you to keep apps running in the background and close them to clear your memory and save battery •there is so much more customization on android than iphone, from lockscreen changes to launcher customization to sms customization to keyboard customization to app drawer customization…i could go on all day! •there are no rules to enter an app into the market, so it depends on the android community to get your app to the top, not the people allowing it to go through on iphone •settings go so much more in-depth than iphone and respond quicker in case u cant tell, ANDROID IS BETTER THAN iPHONE!

  • Gusthy

    There are more than six companies making Android phones. You forgot for example Huawei, ZTE and Sony-Ericsson.

  • http://twitter.com/clivesinclair Clive Sinclair

    A lot of people do buy smartphones because they run Android. Many because they dislike Apple and really have they any other choice?

  • Chris

    You can compare iPhone to Android because you’re actually comparing ios in smartphones to android in smartphones, or you can expand to compare all ios devices to all adroid devices incl android tablets, which are quickly progressing into the ipad dominated market

  • Mikecannon34

    You state that Motorola says it shipped 13.7 million smartphones in 2010. The company didn’t specify Droids, but we’ll count them all anyway.

    In comparison, Apple shipped 47.49 million in 2010, outpacing Motorola by more than three times.

    Did you take in to the fact that if your Iphone screws up you take it to a apple store and get a new one? could this be why apple ships so many iphones? I know of 3 people who have the iphones and are on the 3rd or 4th one.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4URX7HP2FIDW6OGVV3QBK4M65A no

    comparing iOS to android is the same thing as comparing iphone to android, because all iphones use iOS, and iOS is only found on iphones

  • Jghoffman01

    Yea, I chose android over IOS, then I chose my android device. So take you stupid argument and shove it up your ass.

  • Jim

    I think I’ll believe the nielsen numbers over yours. You have any sources for these numbers? iOS up 9% over Android . not some crazy 59%

    http://mashable.com/2010/11/02/iphone-android-nielsen/

  • Stuart

    That is not the truth… the iPad and iPod are not phones. When people compare mobile phone sales by OS, that is just what they are comparing… simple.

    Phone Sales – 1st Quarter 2011: 36% Android: 36.2 million 27.4% Symbian 16.8% Apple 12.9% RIM (Blackberry) 3.6% Microsoft

    The only thing to me that is vague is shipped over sales…

    Just because Apple’s one phone they make is the only phone using that OS… so what. But they have other devices that also use that OS… and?

    What is true, is just because the masses are buying something, does not make it the best product or better for you. Make up your own mind.

    I have had a Motorola, several Nokia’s, a Blackberry, a HTC, an iPhone and now I’m back to using a HTC – Desire Z with a slide out keyboard. The keyboard and email management was the main reason why I switched.

    Most people are swayed by slick marketing, not OS sales stats. Apple has always done well at marketing.

    However, the tide is obviously turning, as Apple show’s the first signs in years of actually being scared about a competitor as it ramps up court action worldwide against Samsung…

  • AndroidKills

    The fact that you stated that there are only 6 manufacturers running Android OS is completely wrong. HTC, Samsung, Motorola, LG, Huawei, Garmin, Dell, Kyocera, Pantech, Sanyo, and ZTE. Because of this you lose all credibility in my eyes.

  • spockmonster

    Smoke and mirrors.  It only makes sense to compare: 1. Number of Phones Running iOS versus number of Phones Running Android O/S. 2. Number of Tablets Running iOS versus number of Tablets Running Android.

    The author of this article is engaging in nonsense.  By the author’s view, you can’t compare computers running Windows to Macintosh computers, because Macintosh is hardware and Windows is software.  Then the author would compare number of Dell computers versus all Macintosh’s. 

    Really skewing statistics to try to make Apple look relevant is an excercise in futility.

  • Simntempla

    Dead wrong…The phone does not work WITHOUT the OS.  Sorry apple lover…

  • Al-Razi

    “(I)f you factor… iOS including iPhones, iPads and iPod touches, Apple reached 37.9 million people.” 

    I disagree. You could say 37.9 million units were sold. But let’s be realistic those iPhones, iPads and iPods were all bought by fanboys (who already had earlier models). Thus we can assume that for every three devices there is one fanboy.

    Therefore 37.9million units divide into three devices per fanboy = 12.63 million people.

    Thus we can assume Apple reached 12.63 million people (who were already fanboys) who were essentially paying stupid amounts of money for over-hyped, defective technology they already owned.

    This is why Steve Jobs is now burning in hell.

  • http://twitter.com/Th3Coog Gareth Munoz Cook

    Your math is wrong.

  • Andy

    It’s about choice. Apple does not offer the consumer a choice in devices. This is where software has everything to do with hardware. This is the same reason the term “Wintel” exists. People choose to by a PC, with (probably) and Intel processor, running Windows. Likewise, people choose the phone platform based on both hardware and software. They determine features they want, and they CHOOSE. Apple/Apple (limiting) or Android/HTC/Motorola/Samsung… More often than not, they choose an Android device. I understand the semantics of what you are saying but the fact is that the measure that the market is based on. By this measure, Android phones win.

  • Mr4x42u

    Hmmmm, so you say I can’t compare android to iPhone… Can I instead compare phones running iOS and phones running android?

  • Myu1976

    Ok, anyone who can’t see that there is Android Market and iOS market is not understanding the market correctly.  Yeah, iPhone is a device and Android is a platform, but iPhone is specifically developed to carry iOS platform.  I’m not sure where your “People” are from, but most of the people that I see are aware of this fact.  The only reason why iPhone became popular was because of its app store and the iOS platform.  So these platforms are what’s driving the sale of these phones, not the other way around.  Having said that, it make sense to compare compare iPhone (iOS) and Android market.  The above article will have made a valid point if iPhone and Android phones used the same operating platform.  It is same concept as comparing PC to Mac.  You have variety of manufacturers developing PC versus only Apple for Mac, only because Apples refused to use a uniform language.  Software is what drives the sale of computers.   Just as PC outpaced market share of Mac so will the Android market.

  • ;D

    I don’t see what the issue is… Apple fanboys compare Apple phones (which only run IOS) to the massive clump of everyone else in the world… seems like this statistic is perfectly suited to that perspective. ;) Everyone should relax, though. IOS 5 users can now enjoy an entire notification system that Android users have been enjoying for years! Google FTFY.

  • ron lyner

    when you compare you should compare the usage of the operating systems because you do not compare windows to dell but you do compare windows to linux or osx. and its the same here. ios is like the osx for mobile devices. android is like the linux for mobile devices windows 7 phone is like the windows for mobile devices..

    and you do compare windows to osx even when osx only runs on apple computers. so this comparison is correct.. saying android vs iphoneipad is the same as saying android vs ios

    its like saying windows vs mac which is acceptable so its not andoird vs iphone its android vs ios..

    android has more than 190 million activated devices.. thats probably more than ios devices.. your info is not true or google is lying.. watch in google’s youtube channel you’ll see a video that says android has 100 million activated devices.. that was in may.. just a month after this post.. now there is a site that says android has now 190 million activated devices.. http://www.t3.com/news/larry-page-confirms-190-million-activated-android-devices

  • Adventure-couple

    This article is ridiculous.  It is no different than comparing “apple” to “windows” in the 80′s/90′s… Jobs lost then because he didn’t want the OS on anything but his own hardware…and that is exactly what is happening again.  CLEARLY people choose an OS and then worry about the handset/hardware it runs on….and that war is being won by Android.  Deal with it.

  • Ernie

    Well Jim, I disagree. I entered this site looking for some numbers concerning the market share of both iOS and Android. Knowing that iphones always come with the iOS, comparing the iphone market share with the Android share is clearly the same. But why would I  look for such a comparison? Does it lack sense? Not for me. I am beginning to make Android Apps in a small company, so this market share comparison is basic for my job. And yes, if you just compared the iphone to some arbitrary Android-based phone, it wouldn´t be completely useful for my cause. Just think about it. Oh, and sorry for any grammatical or spelling mistakes. I am from Mexico. 

  • Wayne Wolf

    a few months late on this, but the article, to me, exudes a string bias towards Apple.  if you want to look at just the number of devices with each operating system, them put them on equal terms.  iPods run iOS, but there is no Android based media player.  At the time of the article, there were about 22.9 million iPhones/ iPads with iOS, compared to 23.8 million Android devices (mostly phones, but some tablets), and these numbers were released before the Motorola XOOM was released.

    Setting the OS on equal footings by device, Android is beating out Apple, not by much, but it still is.  those iPods heavily skew the raw OS numbers into Apple’s favor.

  • Tom Lawson

    Without individually asking each iOS user what their motivation was for buying the product to find out who bought it for which predominate reason (between OS and hardware) you can’t distinguish between iPhone hardware and Apple’s iOS.

    Whilst it’s not black and white, comparing the iPhone to Android is a viable option due to the way Apple chooses to position its iOS in the market, forcing those who wish to use it to purchase it via proxy (iPhone hardware) and then ensuring future purchases through the same model as a result of the OS (in the phone market) being tied to specific hardware.

    Throw into the mix, that Apple (seemingly in my experience) don’t like to make it easy for their devices to work with anything but other Apple devices and programs (such as iTunes) and you really have to wonder whether anyone at all, buys an iPhone for its hardware now (though admittedly it’s a bit clearer cut with iPads and iPod’s).

    With Android, numerous competing hardware options all sport the same OS, making the likelihood of a consumer making a hardware based choice much (in my opinion) higher.

    Just my opinion, of course!

  • Mikael

    I know that many people will hate this (including the author of this article), but iPhone will slowly lose market share. It will most likely be a long war (just like Mac vs. Windows in the 90′s). Android based phones will win big time, iPhone will be 2nd and Windows Phones might end up on 3rd place.

  • Rushank

    The guy who has wrote this is a nerd. There is no comparison between an OS and a Hardware and if you really wanna compare an Android phone  and iPhone on Hardware terms keeping the price range in mind, an iPhone  stands no where. The people who are against an Android Phone, are just because they know that, they have made a big mistake by spending extra cash for not much additional features. 

  • John M. Harris

    I think the fair way to do it, is to count the number of ACTIVE “droid enabled” devices with a phone number associated with them to the number of iPhones (since, iphone is the only phone that can run iOS). Not sure how you’d get those numbers, but that’s what people are looking at, not the iOS, they want to know the “phones” who’s winning, Droid or iOS in the phone category. Obviously, iPad is killing everyone in the tablet market, so that boosts iOS. Now, I’m an iPhone user, and I think it’s better (more available, useable, etc), so I think iOS should (will) win the OS race, but I’d like to see one mega chart that lists the comparison will all the data including hardware and software for ACTIVE devices… Does that exist anywhere? When will that be updated again since Apple just sold 4M+ phones.

  • jezza

    whatever you say mr itroll

  • Bill

    “That’s comparing an operating system to a hardware device.” — This is one of those semantics tricks that people play when they already have a side in a battle and are looking to further their argument. OF COURSE you can compare them. This has beed done in every other technology for many years. 

    “The first problem is that there is no such thing as a “smartphone OS market.” 

    That sentence cracks me up. Then whey do we see adds for Android and Windows Mobile 7 on TV all the time?

    Just another Apple Fan Boy posting their anger.

  • interlogix

    The fact that Apple has not allowed anyone else to load iOS onto their devices isn’t the worlds, retailers, consumers, or my fault. It is their own flawed business strategy that is catching up with them once people realize that there are nice phones available for lower prices with equivalent hardware and increasingly equivalent software options.

    iPhone and iOS are synonymous because they have a 1:1 ratio of usage, every iPhone runs iOS.

    The analogy of Windows to Dell is flawed because A) Dell doesn’t own the only operating system that runs on Dell computers and only Dell computers. B) Dell doesn’t control the market of applications available to Dell users. C) Dell doesn’t have an extreme profit margin in place when compared to similarly configured computers from other manufacturers.

    Android phones collectively get to be compared to iPhones because when you go phone shopping, your first decision is price point, on the android side you can go high-end, middle, or low end. On the apple side you can go new, old and older. In terms of hardware the phones will be comparable. Android shoppers then get more options to choose from in terms of style, interface and specific features.

    All of this reminds me of the Wintel vs Mac debate of the 90′s. (note: in the 90′s Wintel’s won pretty solidly unless you were in graphic design or pro-audio/video) You either like Mac’s or you don’t. You don’t get to decide what your stuff gets compared to just because your a fanboi. Bottom line, Apple has always sold mediocre gear at high prices and really nice gear and extreme prices. You are paying for that apple branding that you love so much.

    PS: In the late 90′s apple nearly went under and had to hire Steve Jobs to come rescue them from irrelevance. I suspect that since the life cycle of phones is a bit shorter than that of computers, we’ll see our last gen iPhone around 2015.

  • Alastair Ward

    Why do phone users get so passionate about this stuff?

  • Megalos Kardia

    Truth is that even if Apple tries to impress it’s ignorant loyal fans. Nokia is still selling more Smartphones than Apple. And again let me make this clear. Apple did not came up with the Smartphone devices. It was Nokia even before they were called Smartphones. When they were called communicators. But hey. Apple fans are blind. And for all those 3gs owners. You guys better dont install ios 5 its bricking everybody. Apple better come up with a patch.

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  • Anonymous

    Interesting distinction.  However, when an open source operating system comes out of no where and cannibalizes 44% of the smart phone market… the solution is not to try to put a rosy picture on the numbers.  What the stats show is Apple is getting it’s rear-end kicked in the smart phone market.  Apple had better come up with a game changer because they are losing smartphones fast…iPhone 4S is not enough.  Now was the time for iPhone 5, but they missed the boat on that too.  

  • God

    You’re an idiot

  • Michelob3_69

    This just seems like a semantics question to me.  I think people say Iphones vs. Androids because you can’t really compare iOS to Android either because iOS runs on mp3s and computers, where Android generally only runs on smart phones and tablets.  It wouldn’t be a fair to only compare the Iphone to the Samsung Galaxy for example because we all know that the Iphone outsells any individual smartphone almost 10 to 1.  The reason people talk about Android vs. Iphone is because they both encompass the same market (smartphones) and include all of the hardware that runs Android as well as the Hardware that runs Iphone.

    • Anonymous

      Huh?

  • Luis Figueiredo

    at least as a developer i don’t care if it is samsung or motorola, if use the base standard hardware capabilities it works on all androids, if i want to target some others i can too, thats why android is compared to iphone!

  • http://twitter.com/cskasmas kasmas

    wow it’s new information for me, i am very late :(

  • Joe

    Hey article is cool but I read wiki and apple IOS does score percent in the OS market. But when sub categorized as “Smartphone operating system’s market share” android leads them all.

    check it on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_operating_system

  • Wood

    By trying to remove one error in calculation, you simply introduce another by adding in hardware that does not have an android counterpart. It is quite simple to count smart phones and tablets to get the real numbers. In addition, iOS has been out longer; no matter how you slice it, android will eventually pass them in all categories.

  • Peter Houlihan

    Theres so very much wrong with this. While its technically incorrect to compare a hardware device to a software device, its still absolutely relevant if one is interested in comparing market share specifically in the smartphone market.

    Its more like comparing “The Mercedes” to “all GM cars” if Mercedes only made one line of car, refused to share or licence their technology and were clearly attempting to monopolise all elements of the auto trade. The comparison of “Dells” to “Windows” is even more nonsensical: IOS is never installed on any smartphone except the iPhone, and Dell is in no way in competition with Windows or Microsoft, if anything they’d be described as a cartel or oligopoly.

    As to whether Android will win out: who knows. Apple have first mover advantage and can back it up with reams of patents, Android is an open platform that doesn’t place such huge restrictions on how its used.

  • Anon

    Lol, typical iTards being all defensive.

  • Loui

    There is one key reason why it is relevant to compare sales of iPhones to sales of Android phones – the app markets.  Companies using apps as marketing tools look at uptake of Android vs iOS among their target customers in order to calculate where to invest first.  Furthermore, whilst you may have a point when you say it’s inappropriate to compare hardware to software, there is relevance in comparing iOS to Android.  I know for a fact that I chose Android over iOS then I chose the hardware I wanted to run it on.  I believe this is the same for most people I know.

  • Anahi_wendy

    that is totaly the truth!!

  • Mamett66

    My issues with this article are you’re stating a comparison between a phone type and a specific hardware device (which you have already flamed) as fact. Though if you look carefully, there were 2 models of iPhone during the 2010 period. You have compared a single Motorola Droid to an iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4.

    You have successfully missed the genuine argument here though; comparing operating systems across types of hardware devices. iOS owns the tablet market, no one is denying this. iOS has >80% market share across this area, primarily because of the lack of solid competition and a stable market base on which to plant their product. Android however owns the smartphone market with 47% of the market compared to iOS 27%. Remember this is by hardware type, not specific device.

  • Franco Nerini

    Keep your iPhone in your pocket and be happy. Until you can.

  • Pub

    What a ridiculous article and pathetic argumentation. Taking one of the smallest hardware manufacturers and comparing them against apple, and using the help of other apple products to make it seem that apple win the phone market. What a self deceived person who doesnt want to face reality. Im so tired of meeting those kind of people…

  • Hhhaaa

    You sir ,are retarded

  • Stormofwar

    as a developer, I really care about how many people use Android and how many use iOS.

  • Chris Muscutt

    I think its much more about the Operating system than the phones. A phone is a phone providing it meets the basic functionality (which is every growing in terms of touch screen, camera, battery life, processor power etc) – there is the argument that if one wants to shoot themself in the foot and get ripped off we buy a phone that has not got everything i.e. I buy an Apple knowing that a better one is just round the corner and it does not quite have the same spec and the Samsung or HTC like SD slot, camera, high end processor, flash (although wont be a problem soon).  After the phone decision – I look at ease of use, security and then the apps available and which one offers best value therefore iOS = Apple Market; Android = Android market and now there is the new Windows 8 Mobile.As a personal rant….if Google actually had the common sense to introduce gift cards for Android Market place I think Android would have won the apps battle ages ago….but Google seem focused on other areas which is why most apps still appear on the Apple Market before Android. Message to the Marketing departments at Google its almost Xmas and you still do not have the most common present…a gift card! If I were you I would be saying “Doh!”

  • Mikey

    I have to assert your main assumption is incorrect.  When comparing the Android market share to the iOS market share for phone devices, looking at a single manufacture sales compared to iPhone sales yields meaningless results.

    iOS only runs on iPhone.  Further, iPhones only run iOS.  So the statement that iOS phone market share equates to iPhone sales is mathmatically correct.

    On the other hand, Google’s Android OS runs on multiple platforms.  Looking at a single manufacturer does not yield accurate figures for the Android market.  Only by looking at ANY and ALL manufacturer Android phone sales can we gain an accurate count for the Android platform.

    By then comparing iOS phone (iPhone) sales to Android phone sales we accurately guage market share comparison.

    If we want to extend the comparison to include non-phone devices, we would need to include sales for any manufacturer Android media pad along with iPad and iTouch devices.  This yielding an apples-to-apples (pardon the pun) market share comparison.

  • Mynick94

    I do not see why it would be silly to look at what operating systems are used on smartphones. As of today, the #1 operating system running on smartphones is iOS. But with 7 biggest phone makers and 40+ smartphones – and more to come – running Android, Android is to to become the new #1 in the coming months. And for Gartner, this will happen in 2012.

    That is the truth!

    And that does not mean that iPhones are not great devices just that they won’t be #1 – same story than the Mac vs PC – and that has not prevented poeople from buying Macs so what?

  • Eric Ericsson

    The big fault in this is when you talk about cars, and a mercedes beeing the iphone and all the GM cars are android. If you make a list on what iOS offers and a list on what Android offer, the iOS list comes out short. You have to jailbreak, android comes jailbreaked out of the box. And you cant do anything with the iOS, just the settings menu on a iPhone is a joke, you cant change anything of value.

    The iPhone is more like a 89:s Nissan Sunny, a small car that cant do much

  • Erik

    They are comparing the os market share for smartphones. The market share of android smartphones is just larger. Microsoft has the largest market share of desktops. They use different hardware. The fact that android does use other hardware is called freedom in most places. Apple typically uses outdated hardware. Look at their computers. At least a year behind and always twice the cost.

    Your logic and loyalty to Apple is not logical. Apple buyers are like religious people. No matter how much you explain to them that they are wrong, they just want to believe. You buy an iphone because Apple tells you that’s what cool people in Starbucks use. You buy Android because it has the latest hardware and does everything iphones do and more. They are fully customizable, too. They have many features that an iphone does, including cloud (siri coming soon). They have additional features, including flash, custom roms and kernels, full usb support (1tb external drives, usb mouse, usb keyboard, external wifi card for hacking wifi) , and the ability to put a full desktop os on top of the android os. I can get the latest os upgrade and all features of that upgrade, like ice cream sandwich. You can change the battery or carry a spare. With undervolting and custom cpu settings, you will never need to, though. Most apps are free on android. Even some of the paid ones are free from developers sites because you can install from outside the market without jailbreaking or rooting. Android has 4g and lte (upto 42Mbps), the iphone has 3g (max speeds were around 10Mbps).  

  • HuiJun

    Would it be more like comparing a Mac to a Linux box? Yes, yes it would. And what about the Asian market? Why are you omitting the largest market in the world? iPhones can’t even be given away there.

  • Naveen Kaushish

    Indian stock market is one of the most happening and emerging market. Major Indian stock exchanges are BSE and NSE and both are of world class standards. Your post is nice for the topic here thanks for it and  I like such topics and everything connected to them. I really appreciate it.  

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  • Maxadamo

    there is another truth, which will soon be true: iphone will become marginal in the field of smartphones, as has happened to Macs in the computer field. And the reason will be the same: there are no cheap iphone devices, there aren’t different devices to choose (only one device in two different colours). They also have strange locks: you can’t put external memory, in many cases you are advised to use original stuff and so on. I recognize that they have a perfect “look”, the best design for a mobile phone…. but this is not enough for me to spend so much money, for stuff that after few months, is not good anymore and is obsoleted bye an average android device.

  • Captaincompass

    I do not buy theses numbers. The problem with this article is that it counts the I pod touch. I wonder if you removed this from the equation what you will have. That’s 60 million units. If you want to really talk numbers you would talk growth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeremy.flatt Jeremy Flatt

    This article is pointless…  The people who do not know any better don’t care and the people that know better like myself just compare Android OS to iOS…  I love the fact that it is on 42+ devices…

    • Olle

      Android is on more than 300 devices (when this article was written), I would guess over 400 now!

  • Ackongolsim Thenewbelief

    Doesn’t matter iPhone is still the number 1 selling smartphone

  • prazz

    This is partially true in the fact you can’t compare os to phone. however the only reason apple may have had more the market is because of the brand name. that doesnt mean in the slightest. the phone or operating system is better. and when comparing phones people dont usually go into detail about how the market is they will look at os features or ram and memory and processor speed. plus you use motorola which is one of the companies with the least android devices you should have used samsung or htc. now adays android runs more of the market and blackberry and ios are about tied. 

  • http://twitter.com/AZINO Andrew Zino

    Great little article – any updated data, especially for europe?

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  • http://www.tabletsquad.com/ David

    So Android is next to Apple. That I cannot argue about. We knew  Apple has been exquisite since. But at least Android made it. On the second part, it is really absurd comparing a hardware and operating system because they will not meet in any way of discussions. They are two different things.

  • Robert Larson

    what’s stupid is saying you can’t compare iphones & androids (and then splitting the market to make apple come out on top.). Fine I’ll play along. Let’s compare IOS devices to Android devices. Now what you got?

  • Mr. Tur-mi-na-tor

    This article is true by popularity and stuff it doesn’t madder if iOS or gingerbread is better(gingerbread is andriod)u can take an droid apart reassemble it to the IPhone like taking androids software and install it on to an iPhone this may take training to do but possible soo they basically the same thing together.

              Ps. Thanks to APPLE corps for making iPods/iPhones which really start androids boom in to smart phone. 
    
  • Market are u kidding me?

    Hahahaha who goes to the market anymore hahahahahahahahah soooo 16 century

  • Sert_kills

    That’s fucken stupid, regardless, Android system itself is way bigger. When people or for example I, when I bought my phone, I didn’t go for the iphone, not cause of the looks but because I prefer the android operating system more than the iOS. I would get any phone running Android, so the phone manufactures doesn’t matter!

  • Darkstar

    This is complete nonsense from a fanboy who cannot accept that Android is the world number one mobile operating system spread across multiple hardware manufacturers with over 50% of the world market according to recent analysts. It will peak at 70% with Apple falling to twenty something niche market and the rest with Windows and rim. That is the truth!

  • Quaint Thought

    First of all you can’t really include iPods in the total market share of iOS . iPods are designated mp3 devices it shouldn’t be included in the race. It would be like comparing market share of Mercedes vs the market share of Suzuki. Sure Suzuki makes vehicles too but they also make motor bikes, Atv’s and lawnmowers. You can’t include lawn mowers in the market share because although they have the same brand ( or operating system) they are assassinated for completely different purposes (mp3)) so that’s a moot point. Real point of the article should be “Android phones vs iOS phones” . Therefore the statistics are completely the same.

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  • tooth

    Your analogy where you use Mercedes and GM vehicles is precisely why Android wins out. The fact that Android runs on such a wide range of devices is why it kills the iOS.

    If you don’t believe me, go for a short drive and tell me the number of GM cars you see vs. the number of Mercedes you see.

    Eventually Apple will have to come around to this open market kind of development. Whether it be Android OS that forces its hand or not. I mean, 15 years ago would you have ever expected to see Macs with Intel processors?

    The argument here is irrelevant. Would anyone really say that Apple computers are more successful that PCs?

    iPhones are cool, iPads are cool, the market will continue grow for smartphones and tablets; however, the majority of people will see the merit in other devices over Apple devices.

    What percent of the population are yuppies anyway? ha

  • Asdnasd

    ” have a combined installed base of 28.9 million users. Android’s user base is at 13.4 million users ” yeeaaahh….. noo GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT

  • Ndtvenkat

     I feel this interesting topic, just trying to clarify most obvious, which every ones mindset has. Apple definitely doing best, but by just keeping IP, the reach Android has is completely missing either now or for ever. It is a simple history every one should learn that no one can conquer the world, so be agnostic with what world is. So by keeping as Open OS, and declaring the specs for Android device you can still be the King of a great Kingdom, though you are not the king of the world. I believe this basic is missed by Apple or any one. B’cos of this, entire world is suffering to push any app to the world. The cost, the time to market the reach to the customers, the agnostic app becoming commercially inefficient for any organization. This big giants now should come to a common understanding and deliver the best to the world and their success is carried by the end customer success.

  • Haterofspam

    I totally DISagree with your saying that you can’t compare Android to the iPhone because one is software and the other is hardware for the simple reason that people say “iPhone” instead of “iOS.” If you want to be stubborn and not acknowledge this iSynonym then do a comparison of devices running Android vs phones running iOS.

  • rr

    truth is, it’s comparing number of Android users and iPhone users. Doesn’t matter if its one phone versus one phone or one phone vs 100 phones, it’s the user’s choice that counts.  More people are choosing Android over iPhone.

  • Ham

    This article is a joke. Obviously people are talking about the ios vs android os. Was this writer that blind? Probably. Just like any other apple fanboy..

  • republic84

    Id like to see an update to those numbers now :-) given that android activations are nearing 1mill a day… I have a feeling this writer is writing this article on his ipad while wearing a t-shirts with a giant white apple on it. Although, hardware and software cannot be compared, when they say “android” they mean the mobile OS and when they say iPhone, most articles are also referring to ios, not the actual hardware. Also, I found data from the same source only a month later that claimed 100million active android devices were currently in existence. I’d like the writer to pull data from the same source pooled at the same time before they go vomiting mistruths around the web.

  • Oscar2b12

    This writer is a fool.  YES because it is a Iphone (or Ophone as I call them}  you have to compare the two.  It is Iphone against the android market.  If apple wants to keep all their junk to themselves then that is what you get.  Droids (ALL ANDROIDS) rule this crappy apple junk and it is by far the better and most used in the world!

  • Fifthblindmouse

    Soooo, what is the argument against comparing all phones that run ios and all phones that run android?  That is the real question that everyone is dancing around.

  • Guest

    Not to mention that they are obviously counting the many who have the Iphone, The tablet, the other tablet, the other iphone.. etc.. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/Introducing.TJB TJ Biddle

    I realize this is nearly a year old; however you specifically make the point to compare hardware vs hardware; but then you don’t compare OS vs OS. The whole argument people make is iOS vs Android – not “Some Android Phone” vs “iPhone”. If you stack up iOS vs Android, then Android has a much larger market share because there’s hundreds of different devices running the operating system.

    http://ThomasBiddle.com

    • NutjobNumber1

      Number of devices vs. number of devices sold. There is a diference. Most of the active Android phones are GIngerbread models, which are typically the cheaper grade phones and they can’t typically get the latest OS. Oh well.

  • Tombruton87

    Android outsells IOS from the the figures I have seen. Sombody said about IOS being on other devices IOS would not work on other devices its currently designed for one aspect ratio. If apple put the system on other devices it would be such a headache for them. Putting your OS on only your devices is the easy route however in a lot of cases it produces the best results

    • NutjobNumber1

      Apple won’t OEM their OS that will compete against their own products. Apple already tried that and it wasn’t a good business model.

  • Lhill8181

    I have a easy method, number of iPhones sold and number of androids sold, not looking at tablets. In this case as a whole android has out sold by a long shot. You can’t just compare Motorola’s numbers, now days Samsung is the king.

  • Hoffey

    This author needs to go back to math class.

    He wrote: “if you factor in all of the devices that use iOS including iPhones, iPads and iPod touches, Apple reached 37.9 million people. Android, according to the data, reached 23.8 million on phones and tablets. That’s a 59 percent lead for iOS over Android.”

    So, if you do the math properly, you would have a combined total of android/ios devices of 61.7million. which would give apple 61.4% of the devices versus android’s 38.6%, that would give iOS an advantage of 22.8% NOT 59%

    That’s a significant dispairity.

    Also, If you compare phones to phones, it’s a different story.

  • Guest

    Article is totally off-base per the million comments on here.  Don’t write articles like this unless you have a clue as to what you’re writing about.

  • Wade

    You are an idiot… The comparison that people are making is between Android Phones and iPhones – everyone knows this, and if you weren’t such a one-eyed Mac follower, you would too.

    The reason for the comparison is so that Financial Institutions and other corporate app developers (not gaming apps) can target apps that reach more people as there highest priority. As Android Phones start to outsell iPhones, we will see a shift from iPhone Apps to Android Apps being the first to reach market.

    If iOS was available for othe platform brands, or if you had the option of Andriod on you iPhone, your points may be valid – but they aren’t. Apple had the best product in their Smartphone for a long time – it is no longer so. The same monopoly based thinking that caused their loss to windows in the 80′s will happen again with the Androids in the teens…

  • seleleth

    This is a completely moronic article. The first 6 paragraphs are a useless rant about semantics. OK, people comparing Android to “iPhone” is flawed. Good for you! But comparing Android to iOS is not. And that’s what everyone’s doing. We’re SOOO sorry our is not correct and is confusing to you.

  • Lincmith

    The author article is flawed and contradict his openning point. he only dealt with one smartphone manufacturer. There are also other products that utilize android ios system other than smartphones. so if you total all the android phone manufacturer and the other android products like archos ….then maybe we will see a better picture .

  • stanislas matungulu

    this article is old and as of today Android is a leader world wide!

    • NutjobNumber1

      What’s a crack up is that I have yet to see someone using an Android tablet, yet I see mostly iPads and the occasional Kindle, which remind me of IT products you get at some schlock outfit. I think over the next year, the corporate market is going to come on strong for Apple. I see a potential in large resellers using them, big restaurant chains using them, and other corporations seeing more use for these things. It takes time for these companies to evaluate the platform, do the research on HOW they can use them, create custom software, do what ever testing and training before a roll out. That cycle can take a year or two. But once it happens, they typically won’t change brands unless they have to. Apple has been claiming that 94% of the Fortune 500 has been evaluating iPads and in the process of deploying them, so if they know which ones are basically in the short strokes of deployment, I think we might see a LOT of those deployments over the next 12 months. Something that the Android platform isn’t getting very much traction that I’ve seen.

  • Christopher Bauman

    It is not really a flawed comparison in the least. See Apple makes IOS which is what is being compared to Android v.whichever. The Iphone is apples “baby”. They chose the hardware specs for it, they chose to be the only ones allowed to fabricate hardware for it, so apple is putting it forward as the best of their best to showcase their mobile OS. So when people generally speak of comparing the two they are usually referring to comparing the phones themselves not just the OS.

    And Yes in the early stages of Android, Apple no doubt had the crown, it after all had quite a long time to gather marketshare since most other competitors were geared and advertised towards businesses only (Blackberry (ewww lol)). It’s actually pretty remarkable how fast Android, a completely new from scratch OS which is open source to the public, has grown with such a spectacular explosion of growth in both marketshare (and mindshare) as well as the os itself with features, stability and other advancements.

    Also, it really depends on who you get your data from for market share totals. They vary by an extraordinarily large amount.

    Here is one I just googled up now.

    all Credit goes to:

    http://www.bgr.com/2012/05/24/android-ios-market-share-q1-2012-blackberry-idc/

    Top Six Smartphone Operating Systems, Shipments, and Market Share, 2012 Q1 (Units in Millions)

    1Q12 Mobile Operating 1Q12 Unit Market

    System Shipments Share

    Android 89.9 59.0% iOS 35.1 23.0% Symbian 10.4 6.8% BlackBerry OS 9.7 6.4% Linux 3.5 2.3% Windows Phone

    7/Windows Mobile 3.3 2.2% Other 0.4 0.3%

    T otal 152.3 100.0%

    1Q11 Unit Shipments

    36.7 18.6 26.4 13.8

    3.2

    2.6 0.3

    101.6

    1Q11 Market Share

    36.1% 18.3% 26.0% 13.6%

    3.1%

    2.6% 0.3%

    100.0%

    Year-over- Year Change

    145.0% 88.7% -60.6% -29.7% 9.4%

    26.9% 33.3%

    49.9%

    Source: IDC Worldwide Mobile Phone Tracker, May 24, 2012

    Notes: Smartphone OS shipments are branded shipments and exclude OEM sales for all vendors. Unbranded phones, also referred to as “White Phones”, are included. “”

    Makes sense not to count oem phones since only apple makes the iphone.

    • NutjobNumber1

      IT’s too bad the data is presented on the screen with a formatting that makes the information hard to read. Can you repost and make the formatting so that I can read it? Personally, I really only care about how well Apple is doing against Apple. I look at Apple’s year to year growth rate by quarter and total. I look that the yearly trends of Apple since their 1st quarter of the year is typically their biggest quarter and then it goes down and then another spike upwards. It’s a weird cycle for some people to grasp. The other thing is Apple users spend more money on content, apps, and third party products, whereas Android users generally spend almost nothing, which means that if the Android hardware sales don’t have much profit, then we are going see cheaper phones in terms of quality and many of the smaller players going out of business.

      Android phones remind me of the clone era in the PC industry. Lots of players making small amounts of profit and lots of them going out of business.

      Apple has weathered the PC era when IBM and Compaq were the major players, then it went to Dell and HP and now those two are drying up.

      US corporations HATE buying IT products from non-US based companies. WHY? Typically lessor quality products and support.

  • reality check

    “people who does not know ….um great we have a winner here who doesnt even know how to speak. AND yes you can compare iphone vs every other android , no one gives a shit about thew hardware alone in this discussion its os vs os not os vs hardware you apple morons its about the war between android making millions more than apple wich is exactly what they do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!how fucking stupid do you think people are with that retarted statement ” You cannot compare Android to an iPhone. That’s comparing an operating system to a hardware device.” Correction android is both and so is iphone you lump skull , it couldnt be just an os without hardware .apple is stupid it has not let consumers have a samsung or lg iphone maybe they would do it better like they did with Android hahahahahahahaha

  • reality check

    all the apps that most people download are available on both ios and android , check stats before talking about what you dont know for a fact.

  • reality check by true tech

    I think the guy who wrote this article is one of “those people” as well , you know hey dad press the talk button , “what theres lots of buttons ithink , right, ……ughnn dumbasses….os vs hardware lmao thats sooooo stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Ryan Gill

    Couldn’t you technically compare Android to “iOS” then? I mean, sure you bring in iTouch and iPad vs Android tablets at that point, but it would meet the criteria of comparing OS’

  • http://www.articledashboard.com/Article/SAT-and-Cable-Liverpool-s-Leading-Retailer-of-Satellite-and-Cable-Products/2960797 Flytouch 7

    As per my point of view, Nowadays Android has so popular and this all gadgets are much better than the Apple’s gadgets and android has strong compitator for Apple’s iPhone.

  • NutjobNumber1

    Yes, but as you stated, this is MOBILE phones, not just smartphones. Apple only makes smartphones, so how many smartphones did Samsung and LG make? Then compare THOSE numbers since Apple only makes smartphones.

    Now, out of all of the smartphones Samsung, and LG have sold, how many were Android. And of those Android phones, what versions were they selling? The reason is that most of the older Android phones aren’t going to be upgraded to later versions of Android. Example. 2.x not going to 3.x or 4.x, 3.x not going to 4,.x. What’s the big deal. Buying a phone that can’t be upgraded to later versions of the OS is only going to piss off those customers when/if they find out, or know to ask. Many of which are oblivious to this.

    • Marvin Nakajima

      So just compare the latest flagship devices. iPhone5 vs Samsung Galaxy SIII. Or iP5 vs some other flagship. Or since it is difficult to say how many ‘older’ devices are still being used (especially when there are so many upgrading) why not just compare sales of devices within a shorter time period e.g. 1year from date of conducting comparison. (Likelyhood of devices still being used after a year I would think is MUCH more accurate for market share). Comparing iOS to Android within that frame should be a better indicator of true marketshare.

      As for older devices, iOS can’t really claim much either when you consider that most of the new features of the latest OS cannot be used in devices 2 generations or older.

      • NutjobNumber1

        Well, I can tell you that according to market research firm Netmarketshare, iOS devices are ranked in a variety of ways, by OS, by Version of OS. Etc.

        I know personally, several people that still use Gingerbread, I only know one person that uses a S III, everyone else either uses iPhones typically 4S’s seems the most common, but android phones, 2.x is the most common. There are some people I know that use an older cell phone w/o smartphone, but with limited texting.

        We can go on and on, but based on what Samsung and apple have reported in terms of total sales, the 4S sold about 70 Million, and they are STILL selling it, and the Samsung S and S II sold 20 and 28 Million respectively. yeah, the SIII got a 3+ month head start, but I think you will find that during the lifespan of the product, the iPhone 5 will probably sell on the order of about 200 Million, since they have STILL yet to begin selling in all of their current markets and they are always in gas of opening up more carriers as soon as they can not only keep up with the demand, but to also ensure they work with their systems. Apple physically can’t make them fast enough and they are building more plants to handle to mfg of components adding suppliers and assembly plants.

        • Marvin Nakajima

          I suppose an argument can be made for individual phones from the same maker.. To identify single model that sells best. The next larger ‘significant’ grouping would probably be grouping by all smartphones from the same maker e.g. LG, HTC, Samsung, Apple each having a single line for comparison.

      • NutjobNumber1

        Some people could give a rip about having voice recognition, because they don’t use it and may not have a NEED to use it. voice recognition has been out for the computer industry for a long time, but it’s taking quite a while to become a commonly used feature, just as video conferencing has been around for a while. I still enjoy my iPhone 4 and when I can afford to upgrade, I’ll upgrade to either the iPhone 5 or whatever they have as their new flagship if it takes me that long until I upgrade. I still see 3GS users walking into Apple Stores now getting their first battery replaced, and they seem quite content with it. They still work and do what they bought them for and they still got iOS 6. Unlike Android buyers that bought a 3+ year old phone.

        • Marvin Nakajima

          Ok, so honestly, how many of the significant features for iOS6 is actually available on the 3GS compared to the iPhone 4S/5? I don’t know any PC/Mac user that would consider that a proper ‘upgrade’ to a new OS.

  • NutjobNumber1

    What is sounds like is a new generation of kids with nothing better to do and since they can’t create their own product to compete, they just like hacking software because they are bored and they have nothing better to do. If they were smart, they should go out and get their college degree and get a job either developing their own applications and start selling them, OR get a job with Apple helping them develop their OS and apps. Does hacking do anything positive except for mess with another company’s product. To do what? Play games and get to cheat the game? WOW.

  • NutjobNumber1

    The other thing is that the Android phones being sold are predominately their cheaper grade products. Gingerbread phones are still selling. Why? Because many people see no value in the more expensive Android phones.

  • NutjobNumber1

    Yeah, but not all Android based products are the latest generation version of OS. Apple is not interested in selling a product with an older generation OS.

  • Becca Peer

    So compare Android and iOS instead of Android and iPhone. Easy peasy. The fact is that most of us are still buying smartphones at this point, and most of us are paying huge chunks of money for them. And iPhones are available everywhere Androids are now, at least in the US. If we WANTED phones that ran on iOS, we’d buy iPhones. But we don’t, so we don’t. And this is from a programmer at a major internet company that wouldn’t touch anything other than a Mac if you paid her.

    It isn’t our fault that Apple is so draconian that it won’t let anyone else put iOS on their devices. If this is really the best argument anyone can come up with for why Android controls the market–in spite of what Apple would have us believe–then go ahead and keep crying in your beer, Apple fanboys. Reality = it’s an inferior mobile OS controlled by a moody, ego-ridden corporation.

  • Jamie Spruce

    The article conveniently forgets the Asian market share – which is MEGA-dominated by Android.

    Biggest GLOBAL share is Android ;)

  • mike

    Was this a personal attack or an actual article– facetious writing at best, and I still don’t know what the point of this article was– a marketing ans shares analysis is of no matter to people searching the Iphone/ Android comparison sect- and your facts are wrong and seem to come from the iphone side of things–

  • mroc170

    All of this arguing is ridiculous. In the article, windows 7 and dell is a bad example, because every modern dell ships with windows 7. We are comparing Android and iOS. Only one line of phones running IOS is Apple’s fault (the fault being greed) and they have the option to increase market share by extending their reach. This is like comparing Windows 7 and Mac OSX, no difference. I’ll read the rest of your article, but I don’t blame any of the people below for stopping once they got to this point.

    “Devices using iOS” is very open-ended. iPads and iPod touches don’t count, they aren’t phones, and many people I know own multiple of each, so maybe it stacks up in terms of sales, but not users. I’ve never met someone with more than two Android devices. I am obviously bias, but this is obviously a bias article. I didn’t just pick up an Android and never look back, I used an iPhone for 4 years, and sure it was nice, but many of their advertised features are pointless, and I can’t tell a difference between iOS 3 and iOS 5! In the most recent 4 years, I’ve used Android phones, first the Motorola Droid, and now the Xperia Play. I’m due for an upgrade and I’m contemplating an iPhone, since it isn’t a bad phone by any means, but there is much more planned obsolescence than an android. All of this talk about not getting OS updates is irrelevant, I’m on 2.3.3 and I love it, no complaints. Apple is devious and uses the market techniques of a rampant 14 year old girl, which they adopted from Steve Jobs. Jobs was a genius, a great man by definition, but he was a terrible person. He has made great products, that he then decided to make highly inaccesible and “intuitive”. What is intuitive about swiping all over the place? These commands are things that must be remembered, they aren’t human nature.

    This “truth” is very skewed. You didn’t give any false information, but you phrased it in a misleading way. Apple is definitely gaining in marketshare, but android is still on top when it comes to users. No one should listen to this article, unless they listen very closely. You are obviously an intelligent person, but you have fallen for Apple, just like the rest of the technologically challenged population. Please don’t write inaccurate articles with such force. Your false confidence is just embarrassing.

    • http://www.noisetech-software.com/Home.html Steven Noyes

      If you can’t tell the difference between iOS 3 and iOS 5 I question if you have ever used iOS.

      • mroc170

        Yes, I have, and there are very minor differences. They are obviously different, but not enough to start an ad campaign. They should be called updates, not new operating systems.

      • mroc170

        I am open to rebuttal, but I would prefer that it is educated and based off of facts, not challenging my personal experience.

        • http://www.noisetech-software.com/Home.html Steven Noyes

          Double press the home button in iOS 3 and then do it in iOS 5. AirPlay. Hardware encryption. Folders. The list goes on and on and for people that have never really used iOS, they see nothing but a grid of icons thinking nothing has changed not realizing the substantial architectural changes (for example GCD) that have happened under the hood. So not only have there been great new features added at a user level while keeping the front facing UI relatively unchanged (a testament of how much Apple got right from the start), there have been massive updates at the API level adding UIDocument classes, massive updates to map kit, massive updates to multimedia access, great location services enhancements, face detection APIs and hundreds of other changes geared to making developing software faster and cheaper.

          You see the OS as nothing more than the front facing skin that actually has little to do with the OS and everything to do with the user interaction. iOS provides a base launching point to allow developers access to Apple’s API set. This API set has expanded rapidly and to the benefit of developers. The core OS, BSD Unix, has remained mostly unchanged for years. This is why the developer ecosystem for iOS is substantially healthier than other mobile OSes. Applications are put first and not hidden behind widgets, tiles, switches and other fluff.

          • mroc170

            Yes, there have been advancements, I’m not denying that. There is much to do, and many changes, but not enough to classify it as a new operating system. I am not saying that apple needs to do something about it, the OS is fine, but they should stop flaunting these individual changes.

          • http://www.noisetech-software.com/Home.html Steven Noyes

            It is still iOS even though it has gone through name changes. No one denies that. First it was OS X then iPhone OS and finally iOS but it still just iOS with many versions. It is no different than Android 1.4 through 4.2 still being the same OS just different versions. Same basic OS with skin/API changes.

            Win 95,98 and Me were the same OS.

            Win 2000 and WinXP were functionally the same OS.

            Vista through Win8 are functionally the same OS though very close to Win2000/XP.

            I think you were very specific saying you could not tell the difference between iOS 3.0 and 5.0. There are some really fundamental differences between these two versions in use and API sets even if the basic skin remains mostly unchanged. Likewise, calling people that use and appreciate iOS as being having fallen prey to Apple and being “Technologically challenged” is inflammatory at best and trollish at worst. There are real and solid technological reasons to choose iOS over any other mobile eco-system. As a developer, the developing environment and API set being 1/2 decade to a decade more advanced than the Android SDK/API set is chief among them for me. As a user, the tight integration and simple configuration with many other pieces of the Apple eco-system is a top reason.

            The point of the article, however, is 100% true. Article after article compares the iPhone to the entire Android eco-system. This happens time and time again. You can compare the iPhone to the GS3 or GNII or the HTC One —OR— you can compare iOS to Android —BUT— you should not compare the iPhone to Android. When Google gives out Android activation numbers that includes phones, tablets and PMPs. Many analysts (IDC for example) then apply these numbers for estimates on simply phones and then compare that to the iPhone. This is simply wrong.

            I agree there are many things yet missing with the first among them pulling in Services from OS X and allowing Quartz Composer to be used for iOS development.

          • mroc170

            Thank you for such a well composed response. You have actually slightly changed my view, and when I say “technologically challenged” I don’t necessarily mean that as an insult towards apple. I mean that they have an overall more simplistic OS and there is less possibility for user error. I personally don’t like that, but I think that it is definitely going to help the iPhone rise to the top of the market. Although I can personally attack the iPhone, and I feel I can attack Apple, I cannot dub the iPhone a bad phone, because it isn’t, in any regard. I didn’t think about Android doing the same thing, and its quite an embarrassing mistake that I thought a new skin made it a new operating system. iOS is based “under the hood” and I guess I never utilized it to its fullest extent. Thank you so much for this great discussion, it is rare that you find a formal debate on the internet.

          • mroc170

            The point of the article isn’t about the OS. I’m on your side, it’s an amazing OS, really fantastic. The point I was trying to make is that apple makes more of a hype than necessary.

  • Rick Wright

    This is crap. Everyone knows the question is “Phones that run Android Versus Phones that run IOS. If you want to compare tablets, then the question is, “Tablets that run Android versus those that run IOS. I don’t care about operating system. I want to know about phones. That means I can include ALL the manufactures of phones that run Android, and ALL the phones that run IOS. Too bad that there is only one manufacturer for the latter.

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  • Guest

    Yes, Blackberry OS. 

  • Qiis4051

    Thats because most yanks think Australia is some place in the US. All i know is Australia is a test bed with mobile phones because the people are smarter LOL and can tell what Nokia or Iphone or Android OS phone is. From the pattern of sales Android (17%) most likely push past Iphone (24%) and level with Nokia (48%)  by 2012.

  • KenSanDiego

    Flag his ass. I did.

  • Patrick Elliott-Brennan

    He wasn’t using a computer, he was using a potato. I won’t tell you where he stores it.

  • Patrick Elliott-Brennan

    No, don’t say it’s so. Don’t say that you actually THOUGHT about what you were going to do and didn’t just jump up and buy the first phone that was the same colour as your fridge? 

    I don’t believe you? I can’t believe that any thinking person would actually THINK before the bought a phone.

    On that point, a friend’s wife REALLY REALLY wants an iPad…because her friends have one. When they were overseas he showed her the alternatives (eg. Galaxy Tab 10.1) and she agreed it was better, but her friends have iPads and she didn’t feel able to explain the technical details which made it better…she also didn’t get the problem with Flash until he showed her…but, but, but, but…you get the picture.

    That said, if the were a thousand Android machines sold per iPhone sold and each was from a different manufacturer, then the iPhone would still be held up as the ‘Biggest selling smartphone”, despite how ludicrous such a claims would be. The truth hurts. Remember, fruit bruises easily.

    :)

  • Guest

    The lord has spoken.

  • Skorcher02

    It’s not blackberry OS it’s RIM if you want to get technical

  • Tehskazz

    No… RIM is the company that makes Blackberry devices. It really is called Blackberry OS. Get your facts straight if your trying to “dis” somebody.