∞ Rumors of iPad 2, iPhone 5 delays are not true

The Internet is buzzing this morning with separate rumors that Apple’s iPad 2 and iPhone 5 will be delayed. The fact is, neither rumor is true.

[ad#Google Adsense 300x250 in story]From what I’ve heard this morning both products are on schedule and will ship when they are supposed to. Only Apple knows exactly when that will be, but the products are not delayed.

Bloomberg started the rumors this morning saying that “production bottlenecks at manufacturer Hon Hai Precision” had pushed the ship date of the iPad 2 from April to June. The report cited Vincent Chen and Alison Chen, analysts at Yuanta, as the source for the information.

“Our checks suggest new issues are being encountered with the new production and it is taking time to resolve them,” said Chen in the report.

Not true.

The second rumor on Business Insider suggests the iPhone 5 has been delayed until September, instead of the usual June or July launch that we’ve come to expect. That report cites FBR Capital Markets analyst Craig Berger as the source for its information.

“For the iPhone 5, we continue to hear that a July launch is unlikely, with various casing suppliers and touch suppliers still ramping up, with some chip vendors not having yet received firm iPhone 5 orders, and with other sockets like the image sensor (most likely going to Omnivision exclusively, but with some potential for Sony to split that socket) still in flux,” wrote Berger in a note to clients. “Given these factors, we think a September launch is more likely, off from Apple’s traditional iPhone launch schedule, but giving the firm more time to enhance its next-generation instant communications on the phone.”

Not true.

It seems amazing that rumors of Apple missing product deadlines are running rampant when Apple hasn’t even announced the product yet. The only deadlines that have been set are by the media, not Apple.

Having said that, the iPhone 5 and iPad 2 are not delayed.



  • http://www.gamerant.com/ alex_sebenski

    Rumours against other rumours! Who do I possibly believe?!? You guys.

    • http://www.loopinsight.com Jim Dalrymple

      Yes.

      • Anonymous

        Speaking as the beard?

    • http://twitter.com/ShawnKing Shawn King

      “Rumours against other rumours! Who do I possibly believe?!?”

      That’s easy – none of them.

  • http://www.theangrydrunk.com The Angry Drunk

    The Loop should branch out into investment advice. Satan knows you’re no less accurate than those chumps.

    • http://mangochut.net/ mangochutney

      The Loop is not only no less accurate, but Jim and the rest of his staff are less dishonest.

      With the predictability of the release cycle of most Apple products, whenever I see an unsorted rumour like this I see an American Psycho style broker before my inner eye, going Please drop by two or three dollars so I can buy some stock before it goes up again.”

      And just to reiterate what Jim said: How the fuck can something be delayed if it hasn’t even been announced?

      • Anonymous

        You just said there is a predictability to Apple release schedule yet you say how can something be delayed if it hasn’t been announced. I think you just answered your own question. If Apple misses their own typical release schedule, then it can arguably be called a delay.

  • http://philiplitevsky.com Philip Litevsky

    At times like these, I like to take a read of the ol’ Apple Product Cycle satire page at http://www.misterbg.org/AppleProductCycle/

    It’s quite a few years old, but holds oh so true to this day.

  • Arnold Ziffel

    There sure has been what appears to be a concerted effort to drive AAPL down the past week or so – tabloid stories about Steve Jobs, supposed delays in shipping new products. What’s next?

    • http://mangochut.net/ mangochutney

      You know, I’m just positively surprised we haven’t seen any renewed discussion about the sexual orientation of some c-level employee.

      • Arnold Ziffel

        No kidding.

  • AustinBrian

    My first thought when I saw this was maybe Apple is leaking this out there to boost sales. This is the time when sales probably start to slow down on those products. Rumors of delay might spur people to take the leap now instead of waiting.

    • http://twitter.com/ShawnKing Shawn King

      “…maybe Apple is leaking this…”

      Contrary to what you may have heard elsewhere, Apple does not intentionally, as a matter of corporate policy, leak anything. Any information that gets out is from employees shooting their mouths off. And even then, the information may not be accurate.

      • AustinBrian

        Fair enough. But if there were any rumor Apple would “like”, it’d be one that would encourage fence sitters to buy the current generation of the product now instead of waiting. That’s one disadvantage of a predictable release schedule. The effect will be limited if a new iPad is announced next week (with a release date in April). But I’d argue consumer uncertainty, at least in this case, is a good thing for Apple.

  • Billc

    I can’t see the article because there’s a GIGANTIC AD in the way!!! Very poor usability.

    • Jeb

      Don’t worry, the ad contained more actual content than the “article” anyway.

    • Peter Cohen

      Yeah, I can see why clicking the big “X” to close the ad might have confounded you. Your jaw was too busy mouthing the words for the rest of your motor functions to kick into gear.

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  • Anonymous

    It would be good if commercial bloggers established “how they know what they say they know”. Saying “this is true” and “that is not true” argues on the basis of belief and faith, not on science or journalism.

    jd/adobe

    • http://mangochut.net/ mangochutney

      Yes yes yes, integrity in reporting is important, just as objectivity and the capacity for self-criticism. Each of the features named here applies to the editor of The Loop.

      Who are you by the way?

    • http://www.loopinsight.com Jim Dalrymple

      Hey John, in cases like these I let my reputation speak for itself. Sometimes that has to be done.

    • http://www.bynkii.com/ John C. Welch

      Right, because all “real” journalists always fully reveal their sources at the time the story is released. For example, “Deep Throat”, whose full identity was released by Woodward and Bernstein as part of their series on the nixon white house.

      Oh.

      Wait.

      Well, that’s the only case, right? That’s the only famous case that relied on information from an initially anonymous source. Well, except for the Pentagon Papers. And the initial story on warrantless wiretapping. And the CIA’s extraordinary rendition programs.

      It’s funny how Dowdell wants bloggers held to a standard that no one, not even the grand dame of newspapers herself is held to. But then, Dowdell’s attitude towards bloggers is well known, as his continual attempts to paint Apple as actively using and encouraging bloggers to act as agents provocateur/fifth column agents in their “war” against Flash.

      He has no “proof” of this, nor even anonymous sources. But then, he’ll plead he’s not a commercial blogger, and so should not be held to the same ethical standards he demands of everyone else. Funny how often that’s the case.

    • http://twitter.com/ShawnKing Shawn King

      “It would be good if commercial bloggers established “how they know what they say they know”.”

      Agreed. I’m sure they will do that as soon as the Wall Street Journal, Time, Newsweek, The New York Times AND EVERY OTHER MEDIA OUTLET KNOWN TO MAN do it too.

    • Anonymous

      That would be great. As a journalist, I would never want to use unnamed sources. Luckily for me I’m a photographer. I can’t photograph rumors. :)

      The problem here is that if one were to do what you suggest, then little forward-looking news would ever get published, because nobody would talk. Because companies like to punish people who leak information before the almighty marketing department deem it appropriate.

      I think Jim hit the nail on the head by saying his reputation stands on its own. Quite often his reports are shooting down the hair-on-fire hysterical reporting that happens at other less reputable sites (i.e. most of them).

      His track record doesn’t mean he’s never made a mistake. But it surely counts for a lot that he never just throws out the nonsense we read elsewhere. He has cultivated reliable sources. It shows.

      Now the beard, it’s been known to let a doozie fly every once in a while. But nobody’s ever brave enough to contradict those reports.

    • Steven Fisher

      Honestly, Dowdell, and I mean this with a surprising lack of disrespect given the bluntness of the words: You can only dream of the day when your reputation is 1/50th the value of Jim’s.

      I don’t mean that as an insult. Jim has just earned that much cred.

  • http://mangochut.net/ mangochutney

    Concerning the initial rumour I’d like to remind everybody of the 190th Rule of Acquisition:

    Hear all, trust nothing.
  • http://www.bynkii.com/ John C. Welch

    I’d still like to know how a product that hasn’t been announced and has no actual shipping date or time can be “late” or “delayed”. That would seem to be a logical impossibility

    • Joey

      Maybe because Apple has released a new iPhone in June/July since 2007? Just a guess…

      • http://www.bynkii.com/ John C. Welch

        That’s true, and absolutely immaterial. Sans an actually announcement and DATE, it can neither be late nor delayed. I ate lunch at 11:30 am yesterday. That doesn’t make my 1:00 pm lunch today late.

        • Anonymous

          John, while technically you are correct, from a practical matter, you’re being an a$$. Clearly, Apple has established a history at least with regard to the iPhone over the past 4 releases. If no additional information came from Apple and they missed this delivery expectation, their stock would take a hit as it would be considered “late” regardless of whether a specific date was announced or not.

          • http://www.theangrydrunk.com The Angry Drunk

            While John is, without question, an ass (I don’t know what a “a$$” is. Is that some sort of currency?), you are utterly and fundamentally wrong.

            The only, and I mean only way that Apple could possibly “miss” a release date is if they actually tell people what the date is.

            Just because we’ve grown accustomed to a schedule does not mean that Apple has any possible obligation to adhere to that schedule. For Satan’s sake that was a good part of why Apple pulled out of Macworld Expo. Additionally the wants, hopes, dreams and desires of the vast collective of blogtards, analysts and pundits has just as much, which is to say fuck-all, to do with Apple’s delivery schedules.

            Really, this shit isn’t exactly rocket surgery.

          • http://www.bynkii.com/ John C. Welch

            1) Me being an “ass”, (really, it’s mild profanity. Grow up, or stop using it) has no bearing on this.

            2) The stock takes a hit because an analyst is mad that his iPHone crashed, so the opinions of barely-sentient cretins has, again, no bearing on this.

            3) Words have meanings. “late” and “delayed’ have meanings, and if there is no ‘due date’, then you cannot be late or delayed. Custom doesn’t change that. What Apple did last year, or yesterday doesn’t change that. Unless i said that I shall eat lunch at 11:30 today, the fact I may have eaten lunch at 11:30 every day for the last 30 years does NOT make me ‘late’ or ‘delayed’ because I ate lunch at 1 pm today.

            perhaps if people played more in the really real world, instead of their various made-up neurotic fantasy worlds, things like this wouldn’t happen as much.

  • http://mrjamie.cc Jamie C. Lin

    At least Bloomberg and Business Insider are citing sources. Plus there’s more info coming out of Taiwanese local publications: http://techorange.com/2011/02/22/ipad-2-postpond-behind-the-scenes/

  • Joey

    Why did I just waste my time with this BS article? They’re not delayed because Apple hasn’t set the a ship date? A whole article about semantics? Apple’s set it in precedent, if not in an official media release. Next time get some content before you write several paragraphs of pure fluff.

    • http://www.loopinsight.com Jim Dalrymple

      Not semantics. That was a thought I added to the article. I know they are not delayed. Would it be better if I said “sources familiar with the matter.”

      Add whatever you want.

      • Joey

        It would be better if you actually had some content in the article. You know, like “the iPhone 5 and iPad 2 are not delayed beyond their expected spring and June launches.” Instead of “they’re not delayed because Apple never set a ship date.” No $#!*, thanks for writing a whole article about what we already knew.

        Now if you meant that they’re actually not delayed beyond the March/June timeframe, it didn’t come across. Might want to run that bad boy past an editor to make it more effective.

        • Steven Fisher

          It means one of two things: Jim doesn’t know their dates, or Jim’s not allowed to say. I’d bet more on the second (as in “Of course we’re going to ship at the same time this year! Uh, wait. I’m not supposed to say that.”).

          But it also means something he explicitly stated: The date has not recently changed.

          Considering the rumors say the dates have recently slipped, reporting that they haven’t is quite a bit of content.

          • Peter Cohen

            I think the more pertinent question, Jeb, is that if you feel you wasted your time with the article, why did you bother to post about it? Other than the obvious answer, which is that you’re a shit-talking troll.

          • http://www.theuniversalsteve.com Anonymous

            Peter, you just aren’t pulling any punches today are you? I love that.

            BTW, congratulations on being deemed “less dishonest.” Hah!

          • Steven Fisher

            Not just post, but post four times. (So far.)

        • http://www.bynkii.com/ John C. Welch

          Given the amount of link-baiting and lackwits like you who fall for it, I’d say there is a DESPERATE need for articles like this to remind people of just how things like “late” and “delayed” actually work.

    • http://www.bynkii.com/ John C. Welch

      I bet math is really confusing for you.

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  • Anonymous

    There’s a few things wrong with this article and it’s not all with the benefit of hindsight. First, calling those devices delayed was solely due to Apple’s usual release schedule so despite them not being announced, it is arguably a viable term to use given expectations. Second, iPhone was never released in June. Looks like the report here for iPhone was true.

  • Anonymous

    There’s a few things wrong with this article and it’s not all with the benefit of hindsight. First, calling those devices delayed was solely due to Apple’s usual release schedule so despite them not being announced, it is arguably a viable term to use given expectations. Second, iPhone was never released in June. Looks like the report here for iPhone was true.

  • Anonymous

    There’s a few things wrong with this article and it’s not all with the benefit of hindsight. First, calling those devices delayed was solely due to Apple’s usual release schedule so despite them not being announced, it is arguably a viable term to use given expectations. Second, iPhone was never released in June. Looks like the report here for iPhone was true.

    • http://mangochut.net/ mangochutney

      Expectations based on past release dates are not a viable or logical method of determining the release status of a product. Until the manufacturer misses an official release date, a product cannot be delayed.

      There’s nothing wrong with the article, there’s something wrong with your logic Sir.