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	<title>Comments on: iPod touch vs. Nintendo DS: The parent&#8217;s perspective</title>
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		<title>By: gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/02/22/ipod-touch-vs-nintendo-ds-the-parents-perspective/#comment-79360</link>
		<dc:creator>gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the ipod touch technically is a gaming system.. it does play games right?</description>
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		<title>By: roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 23:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i pod touch isn&#039;t a gaming system </description>
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		<title>By: nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 23:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet this whole article was posted by apple. A full article ragging on ds&#039;s the big touchscreen system other then the Itouch. a little suspicous </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet this whole article was posted by apple. A full article ragging on ds&#039;s the big touchscreen system other then the Itouch. a little suspicous</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a father or a 3 year old and a 6 month old I do not see myself ever needing to purchase a D.S. There is a ridiculous number of high quality educational and entertainment based games for children of all ages on the iPhone and the pace at which they are coming out is staggering. As a classroom teacher in an elementary school I often hear students talk about their D.S. but often they brag to eachother over who got to use their older brother/sister&#039;s iPod Touch.
When I upgraded to the 3GS I deactivated my old gen. 1 iPhone, popped out the SIM, put it into airplane mode, and loaded all the kids games right to front screen. Now my older son has an &quot;iPhone&quot; but really I am thinking in a few years he will scoff at the D.S.... The only thing I could think of that would make him want the D.S. would be specific games that his friends play.
I do however understand @Sherbert&#039;s comment above regarding initial cost. For our family we don&#039;t see the cost... at least directly. Our son has a &quot;hand-me-down&quot;. Eventually when the crawling bugger gets older he will get my wife&#039;s 3G. In both situations though my boys will have &quot;Touch&quot; devices, even if they are phones. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a father or a 3 year old and a 6 month old I do not see myself ever needing to purchase a D.S. There is a ridiculous number of high quality educational and entertainment based games for children of all ages on the iPhone and the pace at which they are coming out is staggering. As a classroom teacher in an elementary school I often hear students talk about their D.S. but often they brag to eachother over who got to use their older brother/sister&#039;s iPod Touch.  </p>
<p>When I upgraded to the 3GS I deactivated my old gen. 1 iPhone, popped out the SIM, put it into airplane mode, and loaded all the kids games right to front screen. Now my older son has an &quot;iPhone&quot; but really I am thinking in a few years he will scoff at the D.S&#8230;. The only thing I could think of that would make him want the D.S. would be specific games that his friends play. </p>
<p>I do however understand @Sherbert&#039;s comment above regarding initial cost. For our family we don&#039;t see the cost&#8230; at least directly. Our son has a &quot;hand-me-down&quot;. Eventually when the crawling bugger gets older he will get my wife&#039;s 3G. In both situations though my boys will have &quot;Touch&quot; devices, even if they are phones.</p>
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		<title>By: Mauricio </title>
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		<dc:creator>Mauricio </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My son has two DS systems.  A DS and DSi his aunt got him as soon as it came out.  That should give you an idea of his original state of addiction to the DS.  He&#039;s now about to turn eight and he got he&#039;s first DS for his sixth birthday.
All this considered I find it amazing that he has played less and less with the DSs and never fails to pass on a chance to play something, anything, on my iPod Touch. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son has two DS systems.  A DS and DSi his aunt got him as soon as it came out.  That should give you an idea of his original state of addiction to the DS.  He&#039;s now about to turn eight and he got he&#039;s first DS for his sixth birthday.   </p>
<p>All this considered I find it amazing that he has played less and less with the DSs and never fails to pass on a chance to play something, anything, on my iPod Touch.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveS</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/02/22/ipod-touch-vs-nintendo-ds-the-parents-perspective/#comment-17097</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Zack,
    I have a 6 year old daughter that turns 7 in April.  She has a DS but has been begging for an iPod Touch.  She &quot;borrows&quot; my iPhone all the time.  I would say that there are more games on the DS that cater to the things she likes, but the huge library of iPhone/iPod apps is hard to ignore.  As such, yes, I walk around with a &quot;Dress up&quot; app on my phone.  ;-)
    Anyway, I agree with Peter&#039;s advice.  Parental controls are there, but more importantly, you should keep the password for your account private and review all apps before synching them to your son&#039;s device.  The other benefits as described in this article heavily favor the iPod Touch over the DS.  Anyone who has kids that have a DS can relate to this article. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Zack, </p>
<p>    I have a 6 year old daughter that turns 7 in April.  She has a DS but has been begging for an iPod Touch.  She &quot;borrows&quot; my iPhone all the time.  I would say that there are more games on the DS that cater to the things she likes, but the huge library of iPhone/iPod apps is hard to ignore.  As such, yes, I walk around with a &quot;Dress up&quot; app on my phone.  <img src='http://www.loopinsight.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />    </p>
<p>    Anyway, I agree with Peter&#39;s advice.  Parental controls are there, but more importantly, you should keep the password for your account private and review all apps before synching them to your son&#39;s device.  The other benefits as described in this article heavily favor the iPod Touch over the DS.  Anyone who has kids that have a DS can relate to this article.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan D.</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/02/22/ipod-touch-vs-nintendo-ds-the-parents-perspective/#comment-17090</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the next question (or perhaps the next article) is, which games get a lot of replay, which ones are &quot;fun for the whole family&quot;, and which are most similar to DS games? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the next question (or perhaps the next article) is, which games get a lot of replay, which ones are &quot;fun for the whole family&quot;, and which are most similar to DS games?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/02/22/ipod-touch-vs-nintendo-ds-the-parents-perspective/#comment-16922</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parental restrictions on the iPod touch are basic but effective. It&#039;s password-protected, and once initiated you can specify what age rating for apps you&#039;ll allow on the device - don&#039;t allow any, allow all, or 4+, 9+, 12+ or 17+.
You also can specify age rating limits on movies and TV shows, and allow or disallow explicit-rated music and podcasts (so your precious snowflake&#039;s tender ears aren&#039;t burned by my Angry Mac Bastards podcast, for example).
Depending on how you have it set up, you have as much or as little control over what makes it onto the iPod touch as possible. I don&#039;t generally let my younger son download content from the App Store, and since he&#039;s using my account and doesn&#039;t know my password, it stops there. I check the app out in iTunes before I download and sync it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parental restrictions on the iPod touch are basic but effective. It&#039;s password-protected, and once initiated you can specify what age rating for apps you&#039;ll allow on the device &#8211; don&#039;t allow any, allow all, or 4+, 9+, 12+ or 17+.  </p>
<p>You also can specify age rating limits on movies and TV shows, and allow or disallow explicit-rated music and podcasts (so your precious snowflake&#039;s tender ears aren&#039;t burned by my Angry Mac Bastards podcast, for example). </p>
<p>Depending on how you have it set up, you have as much or as little control over what makes it onto the iPod touch as possible. I don&#039;t generally let my younger son download content from the App Store, and since he&#039;s using my account and doesn&#039;t know my password, it stops there. I check the app out in iTunes before I download and sync it.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/02/22/ipod-touch-vs-nintendo-ds-the-parents-perspective/#comment-16920</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually made that point in the article as well, when I said, &quot;And in the case of my younger son, who doesn&#8217;t have his own computer, his iPod touch is synced to my Mac. So that doesn&#8217;t count as an additional authorization.&quot;
But thanks for reenforcing the point, I think it&#039;s important to underscore, because some people get confused about that. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually made that point in the article as well, when I said, &quot;And in the case of my younger son, who doesn&rsquo;t have his own computer, his iPod touch is synced to my Mac. So that doesn&rsquo;t count as an additional authorization.&quot; </p>
<p>But thanks for reenforcing the point, I think it&#039;s important to underscore, because some people get confused about that.</p>
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		<title>By: AlfieJr</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlfieJr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or better, give your kid their own user account on the family Mac (PC?) with parental controls turned on to sync with, to keep them out of your stuff. and every time they use the iTunes account to buy, you get an email statement in a couple of days, so you know exactly what they are getting and how much they are spending. you can set up a separate account for them that you administer ... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or better, give your kid their own user account on the family Mac (PC?) with parental controls turned on to sync with, to keep them out of your stuff. and every time they use the iTunes account to buy, you get an email statement in a couple of days, so you know exactly what they are getting and how much they are spending. you can set up a separate account for them that you administer &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/02/22/ipod-touch-vs-nintendo-ds-the-parents-perspective/#comment-16911</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just one tiny detail. you do NOT need multiple computers as the article implies. one computer can sync as many devices as it wants. you&#039;ll just want to turn off auto syncing so Mommy&#039;s contacts aren&#039;t in the kids ipods.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just one tiny detail. you do NOT need multiple computers as the article implies. one computer can sync as many devices as it wants. you&#039;ll just want to turn off auto syncing so Mommy&#039;s contacts aren&#039;t in the kids ipods.</p>
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		<title>By: zwei</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/02/22/ipod-touch-vs-nintendo-ds-the-parents-perspective/#comment-16886</link>
		<dc:creator>zwei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, the wife and I had this conversation over the weekend. I was about to ping you on twitter, but I see you one-upped me with an article on the subject. :D
The one thing I (er she) has questions about is parental controls on the iPod Touch. I told her it shouldn&#039;t be a problem since it would be tied to our iMac and I&#039;d see all the apps that were on there, but I&#039;d be interested in hearing your opinion. My son is 6, and this would be his 7th birthday present.
I REALLY don&#039;t want to get him a system that has cartridges and other pieces that he can lose. Right now he&#039;s got one of those Leapster systems and we never can find the games for it.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, the wife and I had this conversation over the weekend. I was about to ping you on twitter, but I see you one-upped me with an article on the subject. <img src='http://www.loopinsight.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>The one thing I (er she) has questions about is parental controls on the iPod Touch. I told her it shouldn&#039;t be a problem since it would be tied to our iMac and I&#039;d see all the apps that were on there, but I&#039;d be interested in hearing your opinion. My son is 6, and this would be his 7th birthday present. </p>
<p>I REALLY don&#039;t want to get him a system that has cartridges and other pieces that he can lose. Right now he&#039;s got one of those Leapster systems and we never can find the games for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate styli. When I had a Palm, I lost a stylus every trip I was on. I had a 5 pack of them in my laptop bag.
The home sharing thing is amazing. I&#039;m really surprised that doesn&#039;t get touted more often.  $3 game and you can play on 5 computers. Ground breaking. And even as a single guy without kids, I intend to use that to share between iPad and iPhone.  And I actually think it encourages spending more.  I think parents are way more willing to spend $20 on 4 games their kids can share than $20 on 1 and pass the cartridge around.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate styli. When I had a Palm, I lost a stylus every trip I was on. I had a 5 pack of them in my laptop bag.</p>
<p>The home sharing thing is amazing. I&#039;m really surprised that doesn&#039;t get touted more often.  $3 game and you can play on 5 computers. Ground breaking. And even as a single guy without kids, I intend to use that to share between iPad and iPhone.  And I actually think it encourages spending more.  I think parents are way more willing to spend $20 on 4 games their kids can share than $20 on 1 and pass the cartridge around.</p>
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		<title>By: Cristian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think in my case the DS is still the platform of choice. My kids are still very young and they love there DS systems. Although my boy is starting to eye my iPhone quite often. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in my case the DS is still the platform of choice. My kids are still very young and they love there DS systems. Although my boy is starting to eye my iPhone quite often.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve made lots of great arguments on this one! I own an iPod Touch and a DS, so I understand the issues you have outlined and would consider an iPod Touch as an alternative for my kid.  However, to be fair, I would like to point out that the initial investment is a little more on the iPod Touch.  It is $130 for the cartridge based DS you mentioned above, but $200 for the iPod Touch.  The DS will need a screen protector and case (no lost L or R buttons, please!) for $15.  The Touch will also need a peanut butter proof screen protector and case, but it will cost you $45 or more.
I still think the iPod Touch is a good deal, and in the end will probably cost you less, but consider your initial output as well. You might want to start with the DS and GameBoy cartridges for your younger kids.  The cartridges are bigger and can be bought used for as little as a few bucks, sometimes, and are still available starring characters the kids know.  Later you can move on to the smaller cartridges when they&#039;ve become more responsible. When the kid is a little older (8?  11?  depending on their maturity) I think the iPod Touch would be great, for all the reasons you listed.
Great article.  Thanks! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;ve made lots of great arguments on this one! I own an iPod Touch and a DS, so I understand the issues you have outlined and would consider an iPod Touch as an alternative for my kid.  However, to be fair, I would like to point out that the initial investment is a little more on the iPod Touch.  It is $130 for the cartridge based DS you mentioned above, but $200 for the iPod Touch.  The DS will need a screen protector and case (no lost L or R buttons, please!) for $15.  The Touch will also need a peanut butter proof screen protector and case, but it will cost you $45 or more.   </p>
<p>I still think the iPod Touch is a good deal, and in the end will probably cost you less, but consider your initial output as well. You might want to start with the DS and GameBoy cartridges for your younger kids.  The cartridges are bigger and can be bought used for as little as a few bucks, sometimes, and are still available starring characters the kids know.  Later you can move on to the smaller cartridges when they&#039;ve become more responsible. When the kid is a little older (8?  11?  depending on their maturity) I think the iPod Touch would be great, for all the reasons you listed. </p>
<p>Great article.  Thanks!</p>
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