∞ Non-profit organization Nuru utilizes Macs to end extreme poverty

There are quite a few non-profit organizations that help impoverished nations, but none seem to have the grassroots approach of Nuru. This one-year old non-profit is using education to help communities, help themselves and they’re using technology to do it. NuruNuru was formed by Jake Harriman, a platoon commander in the Infantry and an elite unit of Marines called Force Recon. Harriman served two tours of duty in Iraq where he realized that the key to ending terrorism was to end extreme poverty.

Harriman’s thoughts can be seen in a video called “The End.” In his words, “terrorists rely on an endless supply of people living in extreme poverty, with no other options in life. The only chance we have to see the end of terrorism, is to end extreme poverty.”

Nuru is setting up what it calls seed projects, where the organization focuses on five areas of development: Agriculture, Water & Sanitation, Healthcare, Community Economic Development and Education.

NuruDouglas Scott, Nuru’s Chief Marketing Officer, explained to The Loop that they go into a community, sit down with the people and listen. He said Nuru wants to know what the people feel they need to help themselves, instead of making the assessments and moving ahead on their own.

“We want mutual respect and we want to work for the same common goals,” said Scott. “We equip people with the skills they need to lift themselves from extreme poverty.”

As an example, Scott said a lot of communities need clean water. Nuru teaches the people about water borne diseases, how they spread and how to protect themselves from them.

Nuru will then dig wells in the community, providing a clean water supply. But they don’t stop there. The people are then trained in how to maintain the well and fix it if the mechanisms breakdown.

Scott said he’s seen communities that had wells, but the pumps broke and nobody knew how to repair them. He believes Nuru’s efforts will stop that cycle.

Like any business today, Nuru uses the Internet and media to get its message out. Scott said they are well aware of what’s needed to make that happen.

“The language of this generation is media,” said Scott. “We want to be able to speak the language and speak it well.”

NuruFor Nuru, speaking the language well means using Macs. In fact, it means using a lot of different Apple technologies.

Scott said everyone on Nuru’s media staff is a Mac user. They use Mac Pro desktops with 30-inch Cinema Displays with Snow Leopard in the offices and 17-inch MacBook Pros when they visit the communities they are helping.

As part of what they communicate to the world, Nuru produces quite a few videos and pictures. Many are uploaded via satellite directly from the communities while they are working there.

Scott said the software of choice is Final Cut Studio. As a matter of fact, they use most of the components in Final Cut like Soundtrack, Color and Compressor to produce the videos before uploading them to the Web.

Other technologies are utilized as well. Like many organizations these days, workers are spread around the world, so every morning, they login to iChat to discuss what needs to be done.

Scott said that MobileMe is used to transfer files and the daily edits for video. Of course, email is also a huge part of the business, going to the computers and iPhones.

“We are huge Apple users because they give us the opportunity to hit a level of excellence that our culture is accustomed to, at a budget we can afford,” said Scott.

Update: Clarified Doug Scott’s title and the media staff using Macs. 11/18/09 1:11 pm PT.



  • Tonya Engst

    Cool article! It’s nice to read about something inspiring.

    • J

      Great article, it’s great what NURU is doing! By the way there are no ex-marines, like they wrote it on the main page, it’s only former marine!!

    • http://Applestoresite Frits Olsen

      Thanks Tanya for the post.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH0MC2jjWsQ Neil Kerfoot

      Looks like a great charity doing great work and am I really hoping Apple are helping these guys out with free stuff and not just using them as free PR ……but I’m just wondering if as Scott said Apple technologies MobileMe great etc etc why are they hosting their video on Vimeo?

      Vimeo is a free service like youtube but Apple ask us to pay for MobileMe which hosts uploads videos the same as a Vimeo and Youtube. Could it be MobileMe is slower than a free service and MobileMe is just not cross compatible.

      It looks like Apple might have not thought this through!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH0MC2jjWsQ

      Apple didn’t help this project I hope they are funding yours

      Neil

    • Frank

      Former Marine – please…get it right.

  • charli

    i have to agree. Apple does some coverage of real folks using their stuff but it is almost always about artists, filmmakers etc. it’s nice to see someone do something about Mac usage that isn’t so flashy. hopefully Loop will do more of these types of articles. certainly a more interesting read than the latest rumors about what the next iphone might or might not have or the next computer might or might not have or what new thing Apple might or might not be working on.

    • http://helpmehelpsomeone.com Joyce Deliyiannis

      trying to help people they come buck from iraq and the wife’s children cope and any one with the need for the moral self respect and dignity I will appreciate any comment thank you Joyce Deliyiannis ..Thank you Mac Check the web helpmehelpsomeone.com

  • Michael Thau

    Great that their using Macs! Great work that they are doing! I will support them and spread the word.

    Many universities and other groups have independently studied what causes terrorism and all have independently agreed that no link exists between poverty and terrorism. If there were, the poorest countries would be creating the most terrorists and most terrorists themselves would come from poor roots, which is not the case. The greatest factor as to whether someone becomes a terrorist is knowing someone who is.

    I will support this group as they are doing terrific work but hope that they research what data is known about terrorism so that they stop propagating Marxist stupidities (that all bad behavior – i.e. terrorism – is ultimately due to economic imperialism and economic inequalities).

    • Jason

      Being a former Marine and having spent over 3 years in different provinces of Iraq, I disagree with you and have to agree with Jake.

      Most of these universities and independent studies probably make their claims from behind the comfort of a desk. I can speak from first-hand experience that lack of education and lack of options among poor people are the leading force that drives the majority of those that commit terrorist acts.

      READ “majority”, not all. There are those that are well-educated who commit terrorist activities, but most of the well-educated terrorists are the leaders, not the peons. The leaders recruit their peons, “worker bees”, from poor, uneducated masses who are drawn in by empty promises that sound better than their miserable existence.

      Improved quality of life and education gives these people more to live for and more to look forward too, thereby reducing the temptation of blowing their selves up for some moronic dream.

      • Kristen Call

        Thanks for this reply Jason. It means a lot to hear it coming from someone who’s been in the “thick of it”. Thanks.

        • Stephen

          Just another view on the poverty, as a link to terrorism. It is true that poverty helps to breed/force people into becoming a terrorist just to make enough money to support themselves and loved ones, but knowing a terrorist or someone with ties causes it too. For example, everyone knows that Al Qaeda is a terrorist network and that that actively recruit people by means of fear and money; however, people don’t often realize that they will show up in places like Indonesia (the most heavily populated muslim country in the world) with humanitarian aid as a form of recruitment as well. AQ members will go into a area riddled with poverty and provide them help and services much the same as Nuru and US Forces, which make the people their feel like they owe them for their help and/or view AQ not as bad people, but as helpful instead. I see this all too often in Iraq right now and it seems to me, as an infantry platoon leader myself, that we must continue have programs like this in the military (which we actively do, no matter what the news says), and I give much thanks to people like Mr. Harriman and others who are willing to serve their country in any way possible. That is just my humble 2 cents. Thanks for reading.

      • Theresa Gonzales

        Very well said Jason! I absolutely agree, you hit right on the nose. Thank You!

      • Martine

        Are you sure? Because it seems like more terrorists that blow themselves up are well to do and educated. Look at 9/11. Those were well educated people. And who gave them that education? We did. They were taught to fly by Americans, in fact in one case paid by loans from an American bank. Do we now want to teach computer skills to children whose parents and grandparents tell them every day that America must be destroyed? A lot of kids in 3rd world countries are also given hate of the West with their mothers milk. Shall we train them how to kill us again? Im not saying that we shouldn’t all do our part to end poverty. But we need to learn lessons here. I don’t believe for one minute that we will end Terrorism by anding poverty. That kind of hate doesn’t die. No matter what we do, very few people will be grateful. They will just be better off, tthey will have more time to organize, and they will have better tools. They will still have the same hearts.

        • Erico

          I agree with your comment. However, the good intention might influence these people positively. Military doctrines and strategies evolves. There is a whole new territory that must be controlled; that is the “human terrain”. The tactics applied will vary, but what is important is the ability to see the possible outcome of such approach.

    • zeeky

      I like seeing objective opinions especially on a topic such as this, But I don’t think the article tries to state that it is extreme poverty that is the cause of terrorism. “terrorists rely on an endless supply of people living in extreme poverty, with no other options in life. The only chance we have to see the end of terrorism, is to end extreme poverty.” This quote is from the article that we are both commenting. The people living in the extreme poverty are the one’s being used by the “real” terrorists is the opinion stated by this article. I don’t mean to attack you but I don’t think that you should attack people by calling their opinions stupid. Go see it for yourself dude…. a university sure isn’t going to go see it for you so don’t let it think for you.

    • http://Applestoresite Frits Olsen

      Mr. Thau, if your statement encompassed the whole article you will see this non-profit is eliminating one of the levers that terrorists use, not just communists using ignorance but terrorists who may or may not have an ideological dogmatic leader. In Iraq he qualified his work experience this led him to create a non-profit to work on the main cause of peoples suffering. People are influenced out of fear of loss, by a religious zealot, Business person or dogmatic leader. They use peoples ignorance of other ways to relieve their suffering. In communism and some Islamic Jihad I agree there is a last days mentality, an appeal with a religious message and life purpose but its tactical tool is terror, not a message of hope for people to learn how to live in peace together.

      A tragic situation for all of us, this use of ignorance and fear. As a military leader, he knows all to well how leaders use similar training to motivate people’s behavior.

      So I think if you disagree it wont be based on ideological or economic theories, poverty exists where theres no vision for change or support from people who are able and willing to give. On a similar topic Dr Melvin Embers, a recognized anthropologist, did a research study on warfare in 1987, in it he found a common denominator was the lack of food and the desire for more land. Sounds like war, poverty.

    • Martine

      I don’t think poverty is what causes terrorism. The people responsible for 9/11 are not poor or badly educated. Rather the opposite. I am sure that ending poverty is a worthy goal, but it won’t make us any safer. In fact giving computer equipment to people in areas likely to produce terrorists will make us far less safe.

      • Gretchen

        Martine,

        When I read your comment about “giving computer equipment to people…will make us far less safe” it sure sounded similar to comments made about teaching black slaves to read before the Civil War. Withholding an education from people (which in this case is being done through the use of computers) only establishes a wider gap between the “have’s” and the “have-not’s” of the world and creates an environment of distrust between people.

        I prefer to look at the definite good that can be brought to the lives of many people through this philanthropy instead of the potential harm.

      • Jornero

        Poverty by itself does not entice poor Third World children to grow up as terrorists. There are millions of poor people in Asia and even South America (e.g. the slums of Rio) that live in extreme poverty, yet very few of them will ever become terrorists.

        Poverty plus Oppression…. is a combination that could lead a teenager to want to become a future terrorist. If some Government Soldier (or Enemy Invader) came and raped his mother, and then killed his parents, and burned down his family’s home….yeah, it makes perfect sense that he will want to end up becoming a terrorist and exacting revenge by blowing up the oppressors. You put him in a desperate situation where his life means very little any more. He has nothing left to live for, except revenge.

    • mabel O. Nwokogu

      Though the reason for this non-profit organization may not be backed by the independent studies on the cause of terrorism, the fact is the organization is doing some good. They are helping the poor nations. And besides, there might be some truth to their reasoning and to making a contribution to eradicating terrorism. Terrorism has no one exact root cause.

    • Sanjib

      Based on what i have seen my..

      I would say Poverty Does lead to terrorism…

      In my home town Assam (In India, also you might have heard about Assam tea) there are terrorist groups like ULFA.. and many others…. these group started as freedom movement but later on totally changed it’s direction…

      Since, the economic condition of the state is not good, people keep “joining terror group as an options” just because it pays good. for example a government school teacher might get 200USD/Month(10000INR) but a terrorist might make more than that thru extortion……..

      What if we give these people more options in life, teach them to increase productivity from farming, help them in doing small business, educate them and make them think….

      I think it is a great initiative by Jake Harriman (NURU) to provide such options in poor people/community’s life.

      Best of luck to nuru and many others who have chosen to help people.

      the world need more of you guys…

  • whyme

    1) Ok it is some people doing some video editing software that is all of which lots of it are available for free or notional prices in PC as well.

    2) Get Real apple there is NO LINK ON HOW BECOZ OF APPLE the organisation like this is helping poverty.

    3) and if apple really wants to help poverty, DO THE FOLLOWING

    a) STOP over charging for its products and allow competitors to its OS so that it would balance the world like PC

    b) STOP ROBBING THE POORER COUNTRIES in their oversize products and strict trading rules to fund USA and other first world (DONT BELIEVE ME CHECK THE PRICES OF THEIR PRODUCTS IN USA VS YOUR OWN COUNTRY)

    c) Start giving REAL MONEY IN DONATION

    • Max

      It’s kind of disgusting to see fanboyism displayed here

    • WhyNotYou

      Come on, man. You had to detract from the main message of the article with Apple bashing.

      This article isn’t about Apple saying they’re the only way to do this. It was first talking about the good works of this group, going around doing what these organizations should be doing – showing the people how to pick themselves up and keeping themselves there instead of just throwing money at the problem and hoping that it works. It just happens that they use MacBook Pros and Mac Pros.

      Also, one thing you have to consider in the cost of Macs on the international market is the fact that you have the required tariff and many countries have a national sales tax (also known as VAT) that is added into the prices of different things, instead of added on separately. The United States Apple Store site doesn’t add tax on the retail price of the computers, simply because every one of the 50 States that make up the United States has it’s own tax laws and code, and some States don’t charge sales tax on Apple Store products because Apple doesn’t do business in those states.

      For myself, as an example, would end up paying $1050 for the MacBook White, where a person in the United Kingdom would pay about $1340. the difference in price is VAT and import tariffs. Similarly, a well-equipped Dell Inspiron 15 would cost me $699 and a person in the United Kingdom would pay about $1050.

      Not saying that you’re wrong about Apple and it’s higher prices outside of the United States (though similarly-spec’d machines from Dell and HP will cost about the same as Apple, and usually will cost more), but you should really do some research before you go on about something like this.

      BTW, you’ll never see a legal Mac clone again, simply because the fact that Apple hardware is designed with it’s OS in mind and the OS is designed with the hardware in mind. Want to make your own clone? Build a Hackintosh.

    • sean austin

      whyme, You’re an idiot. Plain and simple. I never understand why you people banter on and on, as if anyone actually cares. Your viewpoint is small and narrow-minded, please keep your comments to yourself =) And seeing as you like lists,

      A) learn how to spell B) don’t use all caps ever again

    • shayne O’Neill

      Look I kinda agree its marketting fluff, and as a mac fanboi I know only too well that poor folks (like me between jobs!) cant really afford them.

      BUT, a charity group I worked with a while back made the fun discovery that a lot of groups tend to hold onto their old macs long after they stop using them, maybe because they are less ‘ugly grey box’ and a bit harder to throw away because of that, SO, we discovered there was lots and lots of places with old macs that could give us their deprecated stock to send overseas. Theres now thousands of old macs in east timor, OS-9 things people wouldnt piss on in the west, but still in good hands teaching third world kids basic computer skills. And yea, with the low income they can probably only afford to graduate to a PC (maybe running linux) later on, but at least they got a computer and can start with the learning.

      Yo apple, make a cheap computer for the third world y’hear?

      • whyme

        I agree with u on the fact that teaching young kids on computer with old mac is great and it is a good idea.

        The issue is that Mac should not use this header as if it gives the impression to the ppl who glace at header as if Mac is the direct initiative to the poverty.

        Yes it is great of them to use mac and I am a cheerio to that as i am too a mac owner but it is misleading

      • thecris

        I think Mac is exclusive for the ones who can pay them if u cant just buy a Pc, don’t ask for lower prices, be realistic on your economic situation. BTW u don’t need to be rich to buy a Mac.

    • duke’o'henderson

      pwnd

    • Bongo

      Totally agree with wyhme. I totally understand the msg NURU is trying to send but what does that have to do with overpriced apple product. If anything they are against the point of NURU

      • Martine

        Because NURU is using Macs. Thats the point. If they didn’t then the message wouldn’t be here. How much more clear can it get? They are not writing a story about hoew MAC represents poverty. The products are not overpriced, either. I used to own a PC, and it was cheaper, but also a p[iece of crap. Apple is worth every penny, and those who use it know it. Costing more doesn’t mean overpriced.

    • Patrick Cochran

      “3) and if apple really wants to help poverty, DO THE FOLLOWING

      a) STOP over charging for its products and allow competitors to its OS so that it would balance the world like PC”

      Apple has a business model that is doing very well. Ever hear of the concept that quality isn’t cheap? If it was “over charging”, then the market would reflect that. Apparently the market doesn’t agree with your assessment.

      Personally, I find some of their stuff overpriced, but guess what? I don’t buy that stuff! (i.e. RAM upgrades)

      b) STOP ROBBING THE POORER COUNTRIES in their oversize products and strict trading rules to fund USA and other first world (DONT BELIEVE ME CHECK THE PRICES OF THEIR PRODUCTS IN USA VS YOUR OWN COUNTRY)

      See above. If they were charging too much, then people wouldn’t buy them. If they are charging more in poorer countries, its probably because of the costs of selling in those poorer countries.

      c) Start giving REAL MONEY IN DONATION

      ??? You seem to have trouble with the idea that Apple is a “for profit” entity. Giving money away for the most part doesn’t exactly make the share holder happy. If he wants to give his money away, great. Let Apple keep the profits, pay some out to the benevolent stockholder as a dividend, and then let him decide to give some of it away to a deserving charity.

      Really, you aught not take offense about a profit making company making a tool (for a profit) that is used by someone (trying to make a difference in the world) who likes to give kudos to that same company for making such a good tool.

      What have you done to make the world a better place? (I’m not saying you didn’t, but have you?)

    • kangaroo

      I think whyme needs to check his credentials. If he’s going to attack Apple, he should at least do it using proper grammar and complete sentences. There’s no need for the random capital letters, either. And why is he attacking Apple anyway? Apple has higher quality products so it only makes sense that they’re a little more expensive than other technologies like Microsoft Windows based computers. However, the cost of Apple products is irrelevant in this article. It was only explaining briefly what Nuru is and that it uses Apple products to do great things. Nuru is attempting to end terrorism. The act of trying to end terrorism in itself is something worthwhile. Does it really matter that Nuru uses Apple products to do so?

    • Martine

      Apple doesn’t overcharge for their products. The market sets the price. They are a for profit company, in a free, democratic, capitalist country. They are responsible to their shareholders, and it would be criminal of them to give hard earned money away. If they charge more in a different country it is because of the costs of doing business in that country. They do make sizable donations, but even if they gave away every penny they made, I doubt that it would make you happy, whynot. Apple has never pushed people out of the market, nor have they made it impossible for others to compete. Most PC applications can be used on Apple computers, but PC’s are made to only use Microsoft stuff. Thats because Microsoft doesn’t like to compete. How exactly do PC’s balance the world?

  • http://www.nuruinternational.org Janine

    Happy to be a Mac user and a Healthcare Foundation Team member for Nuru! Thanks Apple! My white MacBook gets MANY laughs (and fist pounds) for the African dirt stained keys. ;)

  • http://www.menondesign.com Das

    Agriculture, Water & Sanitation, Healthcare, Community Economic Development and Education !!

    These are great areas to help. As for the cost of apple products, I see no comparison to the cost of real humans, bombs, amunition and even those thousand dollar toilets. We can easily give every poor child an Apple compter for cost of a war ! Let us give credit where it is due.

  • Ikechukwu Nwanze

    Any tool that helps one do their job better, effortlessly like Apple products does is worth praise. I know how expensive Apple products are. For example, an iPhone costs R1489 (South African Rands) in the US but costs about R9800 over here in South Africa. But am saving up to get one because i know what am getting. My digital world has really been made easier with Apple products and that’s what makes me ignore the high price. I will only get very mad if Apple does not maintain her quality as i believe that’s what am buying and not really the product. Apple products help you become what you want to be as it eliminates a lot of headaches.

    Of cause other products can do this, but Apple does this uniquely as everything is in one concise place and to me personally, it makes a big difference as a student who just finished undergrad and my postgrad, Apple played a key role.

    Anyway, these are my personal views!

    May Nuru continue to grow and please keep us updated.

    • whyme

      Agreed that they are over price to many 3rd world. And sigh…. unfortunately some simplistic people just don’t understand.

      • Martine

        They are not overpriced. The market sets the price. If they were overpriced, they would not be bought. They simply price them at what people will pay for them. It is Apples duty to sell their products at the highest price they can get. They are a for profit company. They have employees and shareholders to think about. Do you think it would be fair for some person at Apple to be laid off and not be able to support their family just so that people in the third world can have a cheap computer? Im sorry, but the story here isn’t misleading, we all know that Apple is a for profit company. Most of us are in favor of that.

    • Traveller

      Martine, John, Janine, kangaroo, I.N. & a few others, I have enjoyed Reading your well rounded comments & questions & I applaud many of your & other’s views (I too am a South African – but have also lived in other African countries for many years, which have massive populations that are extremely poor). Until a year ago, I used Microsoft pc’s and products & it’s satisfying to now be able to work with Apple products that do not consistently waste my time, products that enable my work & passions & that allow for more time-efficiency. My Partner & I have researched the huge price discrepencies in the S.A. market place (3rd world, right “whyme”??). It not only comes down to what the market will pay, it has also got to do with the government surcharges & duty charges etc. just as much as the poverty in 3rd world countries has to do with the way those very governments mishandel those 3rd world resources, power & infrastructures to name but a few things that have caused such wide spread, profound poverty…

      “whyme”, respectfully, please do yourself a genuine favour: read & listen to a book titled “Hatred’s Kingdom” by Dore Goldt together with the downloaded audible version (for clarity’s sake, the audible version is superior as it is encyclopeadic in it’s fact’s ). This is not a book for the feint hearted. As you come across (I.e. you do not appear feint hearted) To really understand the long road the fanatical, jihad minded, Wahabism offshoot of the Muslim religion has slowly but surely and very insidiously travelled to tranform not just some peoples, some cultures, some tribes but how it has now extendend it’s nasty tenticles into various countries and continents beyond it’s birth place in the Middle East, in fact, anyone courageous enough to take a look at terrorism beyond the supifluous surface noise, please read it (though it is much easier to listen to it in the downloaded audible version, as mentioned, for clarity sake), a book named “Hatred’s Kingdom” by Dore Gold, to really grasp the roots of terrorism to have a better informed grasp of this newer horror… (& while you are about doing this self empowerment, self informing excercise you could also download a free interview with the very well connected author, Frederick Forsyth for his take – on http://www.audible.com)

      To Apple, we’ve long supported and admired your progress especially in light of the massive strong hold & lack of serious competition Microsoft had. Cudos to the underdog that you were for so long and the genius of Steve Jobs. I don’t know many people, who, given the chance, would not spend a little extra if it granted them the assurance of better products, whatever their perspective in live. Even better that Apple’s products are so stable that their older product’s can be taken into (a very rough & tough) field for caring & uplifting humanitarian work! “whyme”, what do you know about the 3rd world? You come across so angry. It might help someone, somewhere, if you could share your experiences. You definitely have a message to share.

      I am moved & my heart touched by the creative genius of NURU Team. If the items that happen to be the most reliable to get the job done in the broadest sense, happened to be named Apple & the company so named are proud to be associated with the work the NURU Team are doing, why can’t they name each other for the benefit of both party’s?

      The questions you raise are outside the forum in this article on NURU & Apple. Please do more research into the causes of terrorism. “Hatred’s Kingdom” by Dore Gold would be a good corner stone & foundation…

  • Steve Hornby

    Poverty does not = terrorism At what stage of Jakes military career did he formalize that theory? Nice posts by charli and michael but i suggest whyme goes back to school and actually listens during the English Class this time around!

    • Jeff Dickey

      He's not saying poverty equals terrorism; he's just pointing out the fact that systematic, modern terrorism depends utterly on giving (false) hope to people who have none; who have no control over their economic, social or political well-being. And that description has a very, very high correlation with extreme poverty.

      Put it another way: Most Americans spend more on gas every day than the median Asian or African family earns in a day. Most Europeans spend more on food every day than a Central/East African family can afford in a month.

      What's really needed is an organized, self-sustaining way for societies with large segments of extreme poverty to get people into a better condition. We're not talking about stereotypical Western suburban excess here; worldwide freedom from hunger and water-borne diseases would be an amazing improvement on the status quo. The reality is that it's not going to happen unless those who have more resources use the right resources in the right place to catalyze the process. That's what Mr. Harriman and Nuru seem to be about.

      I had a theology prof once who had a sign behind his desk: "Never tell someone their idea is wrong until you can explain a better one to solve the same problem." That was right next to "Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from careful observation of mistakes. Mistakes arise from bad judgment. Therefore, good judgment is impossible without previous bad judgment."

  • because

    “Give a person a fish and they will eat for a day… teach a person to fish and they eat for a lifetime!”… …hey… “WHYME” !…get off your ‘duff’ about costs… you’re lucky to be ‘enabled’ to gripe… at least you have choices!… buy or don’t buy!… when’s the last time you were living in a third world country?… or gave to a local food bank or charity! … you totally missed the point of this article… edification is the great equalizer… and this organization is out there doing what it can to bring that to fruition… what are you doing?… quibbling over what you can’t afford… jeez … you go where the founder of this enterprise has gone… I guarantee you’ll see things in a different NURU light!

    • whyme

      Hey because, get a life….. and please learn how to read, this is not about apple or that Nuru has not done a good work. It is about the misleading advertisement and what are the possibility of action that they could do for the 3rd world.

      and by the way, shut up about cost, I own the highest model of macbook pro.

      • because

        hey, whyme… my, my, a personal affront to protect ones’ pragmatic ‘opinion’… stay focused, whyme!… are you not aware that ALL advertising , from it’s inception, is intrinsically misleading for mercenary motives?!… read “john”‘s post of november 19, 2009… is that where your “highest model of macbook pro” will end up when you decide to buy the ‘next generation’ of “highest model”… because you can afford it?… you have created a very powerful ‘engine’ here… you’re wasting your time revving it up… get ‘out there’ and lay down some black tracks!

  • because

    my dear Mr. Thau… it is ‘ideology’ that is the single most prevalent factor in terrorism!… it will bring together those people of like mind, so that the fanaticism becomes riotous amongst the initiates… … yet, you are correct in suggesting that there is no correlation between poverty and terrorism… however it can be considered a factor if the paucity of education exists so that the contravention of the ideology is eliminated…

  • http://jclarkebis@yahoo.com john

    Being 76 six years old and (from a weelchair) having salvaged 2 Power Mac G4s from the dumpster(Academia’s solution to the not-quite-obsolete), it occured to me that these quite rugged units, among others) could form the nucleus of village education centers. It is a crying shame to see pallet loads of these self sustained units together with integrated exotic alphabets, Text Edits, Calculators, Chess Games, heading towards the oblivion of land fills. Tons of thermionc based displays also abound (dangerous only when crushed).500 watt A.C./D.C. power problems? Bidouilles abound on the net. Once set up, leave, let them figure it out. Confess, how else did we slither into computing.

    Ex-Korean War, Ex-W3HUB, Ex-Ph.D. but still kicking.

    • http://none cathy lawrence

      Hooray for recycling! I am typing this on a reworked g-4. Sorry to hear so many of its brethren ended their lives in the landfills. It’s not that I don’t appreciate bells and whistles, but I wouldn’t use 80% of them in my work.

      As to NURU, great effort. I wonder why they aren’t using iphones in the field, instead of laptops?

  • http://www.nuruinternational.org Megh

    I totally agree. We could give a MacBook to every child for the price of War– not that that ends extreme poverty, but just sayin, its true.

    Using all those five areas to collaborate in ending extreme poverty– that’s the way to go! Good job Nuru!

  • Karen

    Jake formulated this opinion after seeing a poor man’s family shot in front of him while he tried to get to the American’s for help. Many of the suicide bombers are poor people who are told by terrorists that they will provide education and money to their widowed families if they suicide bomb. You can hear more about it if you youtube The End: Jake’s Story. He is a childhood friend of mine and has my total support, even if his work doesn’t end terrorism but only ends extreme poverty.

  • Jell

    To say their is no link between terrorism and extreme poverty and lack of education is pathetic. Extreme poverty is what causes lack of education and lack of education 1000% plays a roll into young people getting involved in terrorism. Use your own brain not the university studies. REad the book Three cups of tea as well. Fabulous

  • Virginia

    I am sure that many readers are planning to upgrade their Macs during the holidays. Why not repurpose our old ones by donating them to NURU. Get Apple involved by requesting that they make some kind of matching donation – e.g., they will donate a new unit for every two or three or five units purchased (not by the same individual,of course!). Good for business, good for fighting poverty, good for the environment.

  • whyme

    HIP HIP hooray to your suggestion.

    I agree with you on this. Since reference to their comment they should be REALLY helping by the matching say even for eg. for every one dollar received they will match it to provide the mac for the children and or Nuru or the organisational effort.

  • krit

    oh the irony

  • Norm

    As a charity worker myself I applaud anyone else who does good work but I have to disagree with the precept. There are millions of desperately poor people in the world, in India, China, South America, etc who don’t resort to terrorism. As they say not all muslims are terrorists but most terrorists are muslim. And some of the richest countries in the world are muslim. Pre war Iraq and Iran, Saudi Arabia, Emirates, fabulously wealthy countries. These have the power to eradicate poverty in their world but choose not to. It’s an honourable mission to eradicate poverty but lets do it for the right reasons.

    • Martine

      I have read that Osama Bin Lauden comes from one of the wealthiest families in the world. Is that wrong?

      • Jornero

        >>I have read that Osama Bin Lauden comes from one of >>the wealthiest families in the world. Is that wrong?

        This is correct. Osama bin Laden comes from the billionaire bin Laden family of Saudi Arabia. The Bin Laden Group is one of the largest construction firms in Saudi Arabia…. and according to Wikipedia, the bin Laden family also owns part of Microsoft and Boeing.

        Osama was “dis-owned” by the wealthy clan after 9/11.

  • http://www.apple.com Sergio Garcia

    “WHYME” from what I have read it sounds like you are the “simplistic” person here. Remember that you are not paying for the product! you are paying for their technology that is far more advanced than any PC. So many have tried to replicate but, all fail. Apple should not have give up their OS software secrets to the PC world. But simply its not over charging if they spend big money to scientist and or engineers e.g; the ultimate battery of up to 8 hours and small as 4 double AA batteries. yeah that is amazing. Even the Blackberry cant keep up. Be happy that only major upgrades cause for a new model iPhone. unlike the BB their first “major” upgrade in software caused for a new model phone and it has not been out that long. Apple simply could have said in that situation ” plug it in, update, and you are ready to role!” Besides it is not Apple, its about how NURU is helping Extreme poverty with MACS.

  • http://n/a Jamie

    Dear Nuru, I am a civilian in the united states and share your concerns but at no time will agree socioeconomic status dictates core beliefs, values or morality but instead implore you investigate the background of said individuals.

  • Dan

    i disagree, once you reach a certain level of poverty your need for money and security starts to outweigh core beliefs causing you to give into peer pressure and take the money that the terrorist organizations are offering you to join their ranks

    • Martine

      Thats not logical, Dan. Of course poverty will lead to higher crime. But terrorism isn’t about doing something for money. Terrorists don’t hire people to do suicide missions, obviously. No one is in a terrorist sleeper cell because of the money they pay them. Usually, terrorists don’t recieve any money for their work, and couldn’t use it even if they did recieve it, because they often have to sacrifice their life to be effective. If someone needed cash they rob a store, they don’t blow up some building.

  • Michael Thau

    A deep and healthy discussion of terrorism is clearly far too complex for a comment board. Sadly, the responses to my comments are more reflective of the culture wars than reviewing and discussing the available data. Regardless of what Nuru thinks about terrorism, they have served the United States with distinction and deserve my and many other people’s respect and appreciation as a result. They are doing positive work in the world as relieving poverty is a very good thing.

  • Paul Harris

    Am I missing something or does “whyme” have diarrhea of the mouth and pee-pee-ca-ca for brains?

  • http://none cathy lawrence

    I think NURU’s work is amazing. Governments can’t do for individuals what individuals can do for each other. What better way to show that all Americans are not evil than by showing up in person?

    But as to combatting terrorism?

    Al Qaeda is not a country. It’s not a nationality. It’s not even a specific sect of Islam. You can’t find it. It’s everywhere. It’s not trying to win anything. Its goal is to induce terror by destroying whatever, whenever, whomever, however.

    When a suicide bomber accepts his pieces of silver, he’s not planning to spend it. It’s for his family, for his descendants, for his name to continue, after he’s dead.

    He’s not given any guarantees that his act will win the ideological “war.” But he is promised that his family will be watched over and given special protection by the people paying him to kill himself. And that may be as good as it gets, in his life.

    I’m NOT saying this is right. Just pointing out there are subtleties and nuances that go far beyond the laudable community improvement that NURU does.

  • Sean

    Wonderful work, couldn’t have chosen a better machine, have “used” IBM clones as my wife does in business world. They break down at least annually, mac does not for many reasons. Value is much greater than cost. I trust this young man much more than a University study, he was selected for his job as a Marine because he can think. My brother is a former Marine Cpt who served in Somalia and yes poverty does play a role in terrorism, but agree one must also know a terrorist to get involved. Education is a valuable thing most of us here have one, the people being helped do not.

    Question, how do you suppose to power all those macs for the 3rd world? Am all for recycling Macs and helping those in need, but there is limited power in developing world.

    • Traveller

      Clearly thought out comment, well worded!

  • Sandra

    A long term cost effect>solar power.

    Nothing can take the place of people helping people to transform themselves and surroundings. With the help of computers, they can dramatically open the doorway to education, global communication, and igniting the pathways to lift up the poor out of poverty. Together PC, Mac, and WE the people must be there for the poor in developed and undeveloped world. Set into play world recycling and fixing laptops to be distributed to the poor. Maintain an follow through of: power source, internet access (esp. for a group & $), learning basic skills and language, having an e-mail account. Dvds in the computer for self teaching with an email account to reach for additional help will be encouraging.

    Piss…..nice to have some mac seminars video recorded and clearly marked on mac site for educating the poor, etc. Please point out the tutorials too. There are probably still pay by the hour internet access. So knowing where to go saves and be less frustrating. Have an list of useful websites and one that their own people can chime in to help themselves and monitor themselves. This becomes a practical mini wikipedia/crowdsourcing for the betterment of mankind.

    Allowing this to begin the process of the POOR brainstorming and participating to create a future worth making. May “Yes you can! DIY=do it yourself” Be an inspirational motto to drive us to strive beyond their/our expectations.

    Will this prescription eliminate terrorism? Of course, terrorism or fighting for equality/your land will always exist. Nor will it stop people of vengeful hearts or jealous intentions or those who think their religion is superior. For a time and space of your generation, let us have a wee bit more spreading of goodwill and systemic solutions. May the challenge of bringing “heaven on earth” be a worthy game than those shoot ‘em up.

  • Dan

    Good article! I’d like to echo the remarks of other “former” marines. There are no ex-marines, once a marine always a marine. Semper Fi!!!!

  • Mani

    Nice article with inspiring ideas but I can’t see the link to apple except that they use apple technology for their work. The office next door does to and they are not mentioned here. When Apple is trying to use such stories for advertising, they should at least have made some donation to that project. If they have and it is not mentioned here, you should tell how you helped.

  • Laurinda

    This is an Apple Website……they are mentioning the use of Apple products because most people on this Website are fans of those same products, and like to hear anything and everything Apple. This particular article is so cool, people helping people..it’s as simple and pure as that. I don’t hear an apple commercial I hear people doing good and coincidently they happen to be using Apple products. I’m sure these people are not out there in the thick of things to promote the Mac Book. Of course poverty and lack of education have a place in the cause and/or growth of terrorism…desperate people and desperate situations result in desperate measures ie. suicide bombers. Not all involved in terrorism have to do with the ‘belief’… some people just want their families to have a chance of survival with a decent life….uneducated= believing the promises made in exchange for their life…desperate=giving their own life for the ones they love and care about….it is all so sad ! But this article is not sad, it gives us hope! This is beautiful ! People are out there trying to help there fellow man. This should be an inspiration for all of us in our own ‘backyards’ . Again, they mention Mac books and such because this is their website, so what ! ! How about we all honor the gentleman that had the guts to form this group (can you imagine what that took) and get their hands dirty and do something magnificent ! I personally thank you Mr. Harriman for the two tours you did and now to spend your time still doing and giving….How can all this not help ?! I, as an American, honor you and your work. I thank all that have served in the military to protect us. America, PLEASE stop with all the cynicism and negativity…give credit where credit is do…This Nuru organization is a remarkable and unbelievable step in the right direction for peace throughout the World. There are some great people in this world doing some great things… let’s focus on that !

  • TK

    That’s great! I appreciate everything Nuru is doing. I’m a former Marine myself, Semper Fi. I hope more people would place issues on the WHY there is “terrorism” and what Nuru is doing is a great start! We need more people to look at the WHY’s instead of the Actions all the time. Terrorism is happening for a reason the people doing it are doing it for a reason, not just to do it. Find out the WHY are people doing it, and that could help solve the problem. Not all “terrorists” are foreign, and not all of them are Islamic either, not all of them are poor people either, many are Christian in our own country, but that virtually gets ignored, and they pretty much do it for similar purposes. Way to go Nuru! Thanks Apple for another great story!

  • http://www.myquickatm.blogspot.com Damasus Millinga

    Hi all,

    I was touched by the article and I wish to contribute as follows:

    First,there is quite a lot people don’t know about poverty. I live in Tanzania and 85% of the population earn less than USD 1.00 per day.

    Second,there is a lot the West doesn’t know about Africa. What you see in the media is not the real Africa. Its better you come over here and see for yourself rather than relying on someone to tell you.

    Last but not least its our collective responsibility as human beings to help one another. If you want to fight poverty you must be prepared to put your own house in order. Remove trade barriers for African countries. Open up and let us in.

  • Dude

    You know, something just occurred to me. While I agree many blow themselves up in exchange for a silver piece to give to their families. But do you suppose terrorists may have also blackmailed them, or even yet, threatened the lives of their families lest they do their biddings?

  • http://paintingla.blogspot.com/ Dave

    Great to see! My wife and I spent a year living in and doing humanitarian aid in a cane cutters bateye in the Dominican Republic. We came to the same conclusions that you did. The best thing we can do for the poor is to facilitate work. Easy to say but very difficult to do. It takes real commitment and a willingness to be in it over the long haul. To learn from past mistakes (we all make em) and to keep struggling on. It WILL make a difference. By the way, I used a Macbook. It was great but difficult to find any support in the field (of coarse) Thanks for your efforts, Keep up and keep on.

    God Bless

    Dave Chapman

  • Dante

    The way to end terrorism is to end poverty? What a load of bunk. Bin Laden? Wealthy and western-educated. Same for KSM and a host of other terrorists. Same for all of those who come to our schools and universities with the sole purpose of using their education toward the end of Western civilization. Religious ideology has nothing to do with socioeconomic status.

    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YzU4YjIwMTBjNDdjZmRiNzkwMGUwNGEyMzMxMzE5OWU=

    • Dude

      Those well-off and educated terrorists are usually the mastermind behind the operations, they exploit the poor and the uneducated ones and recruit them to do the dirty work for them.

  • Patrick Cochran

    Poverty can help terrorist organizations, but it isn’t the motivator for it.

    Mohammed Atta wasn’t poor or uneducated. He flew his aircraft into the WTC because of Islam, a religion bent on world domination and powered by hate of everything that is not itself. Major Hasan is another example of a terrorist who wasn’t poor or uneducated.

    Of course, you don’t need Islam to be a terrorist. You just need an ideology of hate. AQ, KKK, FARK, it don’t matter what particular flavor or terrorist you think about, it is always powered by hate.

    This program (which I applaud) gives people a different experience of “the other” (so that they will hate less) and gives them a chance to find something more constructive to live for.

    God bless your efforts!

  • http://Dividedsky421gmail.com Jell

    Has anyone on this board read THREE CUPS OF TEA? What did you think? One of my favorite reads of all time.

  • Rei

    I think whyme there has some valid points too. I wouldn’t wanna bash Apple here, but, let’s not bash each other either. If Apple wants to leverage for positive PR on how Nuru is using Macs to end extreme poverty (read the title again please) then it should also take the next step to offer something significant to actually help Nuru in its efforts (dollar matching offer, used mac trade-off for donation, other creative schemes, etc). And hey maybe if all of us, especially Mac owners, express similar concerns to Apple then maybe we’ll see it actually taking up the ideas in near future. I do acknowledge though by even placing the article on its website, Apple has raised our awareness level of Nuru’s fantastic work. Just my 2 cents. No need to bash me please :)

  • Steph

    To everyone: I have to hand it to you – usually readers’ responses to articles on the internet devolve into an endless stream of misspelled bullshit. But people on the mac site tend to be funny, intelligent, and don’t make me feel dumber for listening to their comments.

    Secondly, since a bunch of people here have an interest in world poverty I want to recommend the book “The Bottom Billion” by Paul Collier. Buy it used on amazon. It gives some cutting edge insight into why and how one billion people on this world are living in extreme poverty, and perhaps more importantly, why they are stuck and unable to lift out of it.

    Happy Thanksgiving

  • Steph

    one more thing people- everyone’s ideas about poverty and its link to terrorism are sound – impoverished people ARE exploited by rich, educated terrorists who recruit by way of bribing/coerce/force them into performing their dirty work until every journalist is detained and everyone is watching the news with their veins popping out. Everything has its pecking order.

    But large-scale world domination is never single-minded or single-handedly carried out. Terrorism: access to Kalashnikovs, access to people with no options in life who will take heed to terrorists orders, as Loop mentioned, access to brainwashing tactics such as hate with religious underpinnings, feelings of extreme powerlessness that manifest themselves in wanting to hurt people because they were hurt, hence retaliation that doesn’t actually “pay” the offensive party back (remember the war between the Soviets and Afghanistan in the 80s resulted in mass numbers of displaced refugee boys, who formed Al Q, who drove a plane into New York City…) Americans were the zeitgeist objects of hate but Americans were also the religious and cultural counterpoint to Islam. We have so many facilitators of terrorism. As does poverty.

  • http://non-profit-nru-utiliz Mike

    fantastic stuff Nuru is doing. it’s real sad shame seeing poverty for real ,especially after conflict’s of war. I myself have been party to such disasterous event’s which haunt me for the rest of my life but i have learnt to deal with it . It takes tremendous courage and spirit to return to such place’s and continue to give support and to show that not all western civilisations are bad and warmongers. It is my opinion that [ref] apple products are high in price [ Ilive in uk,expensive]they are ,but if you want quality and reliability you have to pay a more . I also own a macbook, which helps me with my photography would’nt be without it ,fantastic bit of kit. I have also read most of peoples opinions , very varied they were too, some may have been a bit heated and fruitless but on the whole very interesting. There seems to me alot of dissaproval as to lack of suport from the boys at the top,[apple/mac] and that they should put there hands in there biggggg pockets and give somthing back to the less fortunate of mankind. , Damm write they should ,because for the plain and simple fact if there was more equality and understanding in this world we would’nt be in this mess now. so as we all use mac’s why dont we lobby these big guns to help these poor people and maybe other computor mogals to help nuru more.and let us not forget that these helpers at nuru are in hostile areas ,believe me being shot at while trying to help inocent people is a life changing experience.I served in kuwait and bosnia and have witnessed the fear and uncertainty these people are left with.These are things that most of you will never experiance what you see through the media is sanitised seeing it for real is bloody scarey and it stays with you. so lets concentrate on heping nuru and less sqaubbling over the price of a laptop.we areall very fortunate people and are inteligent these poeple have very little left as well as hope and trust they are also very vulnarable to subvirsive entitys we cant rely on our govmts its our resposibity too so lets give these guys a little polite pressure besides its good honest Pr for them and mac could lead the way in boosting a non prof/org. my apologies for any grammatica errors it infuriates the purists.

    best wishes to you all . MIKE. [Former Royal Marine].

    • because

      hey mike… thanx for the reality check… we that live by the grace of your service, have no idea of what you personally have witnessed… you are of a very select brotherhood, as is the founder of NURU, who has chosen to take his experiences to another level of humanity and make a ‘positive’ difference in the ‘world’, he, and yourself, have seen… a ‘non profit’ mac/org… great idea!

      • http://non-profit-nru-utiliz loopinsight.com

        Thanks whoever you are. Would really like to help the cause in some way or another but have limited funds.the civilan skills i possess amount to my first carreer as a time served carpenter/joiner.and then my real passion photograpy,and will continue to watch this site and nuru. just got back from wet and windy constrution site in cornwall [ uk] beautiful part of the world . even when you do have work in wet. still i can go and have hot shower, theres millions out there that cant , we are all lucky to be alive and its really comforting to chat with people out there who feel the same way, bless you all and happy thanks giving to you people across the pond. from mike in plymouth devon uk

        surfs up guys bye for now.

  • Thoughtful Poverty Fighter

    Kudos to NURU for the creative and thoughtful approach to addressing poverty. It is great to see more and more individuals applying their skills and knowledge base to engage the most pressing needs in the world.

    We do need to remember, though, that eradicating poverty certainly won’t solve terrorism. After all, the individuals who’ve brought terrorism to the West in recent years–from Bin Laden to the 9/11 highjackers–were most all affluent and well-educated. We have countless other reasons to take up the cause of the poor, but countering terrorism requires more than these efforts alone.

    • Dude

      “We do need to remember, though, that eradicating poverty certainly won’t solve terrorism. After all, the individuals who’ve brought terrorism to the West in recent years–from Bin Laden to the 9/11 highjackers–were most all affluent and well-educated.”

      Eradicating poverty may not be a silver bullet but it goes a helluva long ways to defeating world terrorism.

      The 9/11 operation was more sophisticated than your average mass crowd killing which doesn’t take much to train a suicide bomber, so of course it’s gonna take someone with some know-hows to pull off a plan like 9/11.

  • Eric Stein

    Apple or not, trying to make the poor un-poor is a noble effort. Doing so by empowering/educating them is the right way to go.

    Hopefully with enough programs like this, there won’t be any need for a military presence in any terrorism-ridden country.

  • RG

    You’re all so deep and I love it- but- to bring it back to the original mission: Apple is a for-profit, that has chosen, as part of its publicity efforts, to periodically feature an agency that uses Macs in their work. This affords priceless exposure and publicity to non-profit agencies that couldnt otherwise afford it.

    Rather than pick apart the little blurb in the press release, check the website for Nuru. It basically says, their vision is to help end extreme poverty by asking the people what they need, and structuring it to become self-sufficient within 5 years. The focus is mostly on clean water and other infrastructure stuff, although education is one of their 5 points. (I dont see where the idea is coming from that they are teaching computer skills to youth, perhaps this is being confused with some other non-profits?) Nuru is using Macs and the internet to spread their message to potential supporters. They suggest that anyone interested in fighting extreme poverty: start a local chapter; upload their videos to our contacts; raise money to help support the projects they do, and give a number of examples of how to combat poverty. Such as, asking for donations to an anti-poverty cause instead of gifts, for your birthday and so on. Their demo project is in Kenya and looks pretty cool. I didnt btw see a whole lot of mention of “terrorism” on their actual website. Personally I believe everyone on this planet should have access to safe drinking water, not just some.

    Anyone else planning to donate a buck or ten to the effort?

  • kiln

    hello people, i think u are missing the point somewhat… poverty breeds terrorism?! last time i checked the bush administration were the joeys of the most powerful group of people in the world. spiritually and morally poor of course, but with everybody else’s money under their mattresses, hardly poor in the financial sense. killing hundreds of thousands of people for financial and political gain is terrorism. compared to the uk, israeli and us governments a few suicide bombers become negligible. the big terrorist attacks (9/11 etc) were orchestrated by your own leaders.

    please stop arguing about the price of apples and open your eyes (@) (@)

  • mabel

    Good job Nuru. Nice mac for being there.

  • Chrissie

    I’m grateful for the Apple Loop site having led me to Jake’s video. I couldn’t help noticing the similarities between what their organization is about and a book I came across a few years ago called the Geography of Hunger which was commissioned by someone in the British Government just after the second world war. It was written by an amazing Brazilian economist and nutritionist named Jose Castro. He pointed out the economic and geo-political reasons for poverty around the world and suggested viable and practicable means to end the cycle of poverty and hunger worldwide. He believed wholeheartedly that it was possible. If these ideas had been adhered to back then I believe we would be living in a much different world now and I’m so happy to see another incarnation of these ideas in the organization NURU.

  • John Dela Cruz

    Great article we have here, very interesting, reading and sighting out different opinions. NURU you’ve done a great job! ………

    As for my insights, well I don’t agree much between the link of poverty and terrorism.

    Terrorism is called to establish war. War, well it’s a lot of money to be raised to fund. This is just another story.

  • because

    hey paul… yeah, you’re missing something… his ability to make you think a ‘possible’ opinion about what he’s ‘on’ about!

  • jt

    if it’s a non-profit then they should use their grants to purchase less expensive desktop computers…. Unless apple has donated these machines the 30 inch displays seem rather excessive. Sorry, just being real, you can get a functional laptop at 500 bucks so why the expensive toys?

  • Rod Kenny

    I found the article very interesting, though some of the responses I found to be off subject. Granted everyone has an opinion. As an outsider myself (non American, though I did take pity and marry one I was able to open some in-laws beliefs). I personally believe the more a person knows, the more they can learn about and from, another culture; their bad and good. If children can look at the USA or the West in general they can find something to hate as taught by their parents (“You’ve got to be taught to hate and fear, day after day and year after year, its got to be drummed in your dear little ears, you have to be carefully taught”) OR The computer can be a valuable teaching tool; it can show people only what they want to see or they can explore and find different points of view of their own. The more you know, sometimes the less you fear. I was brought up to question everything. I learned through education and experience not everyone is bad or good for that matter. A child has the opportunity if allowed, to learn more about another culture/country and discover the similarities as well as cultural differences. I applaud anyone who can bring education, and humanity to a world that is sometimes without. This includes below the 49th Parallel as well. May Nuru continue to help those who need it no matter how it is done it makes a positive difference in the world. As a side note: I have to add there are children who are kidnapped and used as human bombs or indoctrinated through intimidation of family harm if they do not join a militant group.

  • http://NuruOrg Ann Godfrey

    Greetings from Liverpool. UK

    Have owned a macbook for two years. Still finding my way around. Came across this site quite by chance – really pleased I did. So very interesting, reading all the comments from so many thoughtful people about a humanitarian action being taken by those who have, and those who have not. Here’s to the success of the work being done by the people involved in this great enterprise.

    • Georgette

      Wow!! I’m with you Ms. Liverpool!!! My dad was a decorated Marine and this is truly an effective and ingenious way to meet needs at a very personal, grass-roots level. I’m going to look into this more!

      • http://NuruOrg Ann Godfrey

        Yo Geogette

        How lovely to get your response. Your Dad sounds a great guy – how proud of him you must be.

        The trouble with me is that I get so involved and angry at what is happening out there in this beautiful world of ours – and most of the time,(in my opinion) through different religeous beliefs. I know I am asking the same old question which has, it appears, no answer. Why can’t we all respect each other and live in some kind of harmony. The Muslims lived in peace with the Catholic and Jewish peoples in Spain for 800 years -religion put an end to that harmony. So, to hear of such dedication by the great group Nuru makes my heart sing.

        • http://theloop philip ryan

          Dear Ann,

          Was reading the article about nuru and some of the comments people had posted and came across yours. I too get upset at what is going on in our world. The great tumult of peoples and nations that seemingly is frothing just under the surface ready to erupt in some kind of horrific volcano of greed, control, war, pestilence, violence, hate or whatever evil lava it will spew at the inhabitants of our beautiful planet, as you and I, and billions of other seemingly innocent people sit there and wait for it. Pity isn’t it ? Well enough negativity lets get to what we can do about it. Your comment on religion I agree with. Religion puts people under all types of laws or certain practices that must be accomplished so that you can be in right relationship with whatever form of deity that form of religion worships. Therein lies the problem. Man cannot be good enough in and through his own merit to be pleasing to the Creator. No the Word tells us that “all our righteousness is as filthy rags” and that “all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God”. That is why Ann we cant respect each other and live in seeming harmony. We all are battling three things; the world, the flesh and the devil. Out of these three things Ann we can trace back every sort of evil and injustice. Hell was created for the devil and his fallen angels, God the Creator of Heaven and Earth never intended for people to go there, yet that is where sadly many people are headed. Dear Ann God loves you so much that is why He came to Earth to die for your very sins ! Yes the loving Creator of the Universe has not left us here to figure it out all on our own. “He came unto His own but His own received Him not”. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, ( and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.” Ann this is the answer to your question, a relationship with the Father through His Son Jeshua-Jesus Christ. So that we can become members of His family, and God can reside in us through the power of His Holy Spirit. So that we might be conformed to the image of His Son, and in so doing that we be freed from the unfruitful works of darkness, through a relationship with our loving Creator, so that we might walk in His wondrous light. Ann this is the will of the Father, that you believe on Him whom He hath sent, and He the Father has sent the Son, that you might have life and that more abundantly. Not stymied in some religious dogma that enslaves you, but freed through the wondrous grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Ann if you want a glimpse of how the Father intends us to live, look at The Gospel of Matthew chapters five, six, and seven and you will find your respect and harmony and so much more of how God would have us to treat each other. In closing Ann I think that organizations like nuru exemplify how God intends us to live with one another, and we should support such endeavors and try to figure out what we ourselves can do to become beacons of light and hope in this seemingly ever evil age. May the Spirit of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ rush upon you like a mighty whirlwind quickening your spirit to the wonderful knowledge of Christ Jesus. Amen.

  • Brandon

    Great article, I would just like to point out that there is no such thing as an Ex-Marine, only former Marine.

    Semper Fi

    • http://NuruOrg Ann Godfrey

      You are right – once a Marine always a Marine. Same goes here in the UK

  • gidgie

    Gidgie: This is a wonderful response to what military personnel are asked to do on all of our behalf. It sounds like what I truly believe is the best economic, political, human action to this world of polarised opportunities.

    Education & skills, clean water & hope sound basic entitlements, yet we need to put effort and thoughtful strategies into action (not just on paper), in order to break the poverty cycle.

    Curiously enough here in Australia our new political opposition leader Tony Abbott, previously made much of the fact that there will always be poor. This may be true, but if we give into this concept as a concrete fact, then we will be weighed down by that very mass of inert material and potentially desensitised people.

    May Nuru be a bright, bright light!!!! Look forward to finding ways to apply your effectiveness for our indigenous populations and all who need a brighter way to spend their day….Regards Gidgie

  • L.S.Thomas

    Great Work. Please have persons in position so that it does not wither. Education and self respect are the foundation stones for any human being to develop. All else is vanity. How to reduce greed an inborn trait in humans

  • Dom

    Thanks so much for do your best to raise this huge concern, it is time to stop endless poverty due to I feel the huge world problem of Corruption. This virus as is now deep in all all countries of the world, one solution I have tried to get our past Canadian Government Liberals back in 2004 when we were going through Sponsorship scandal. This was involved in giving contracts to add firms for supporting their re-election and trying to fight French Separatists from winning power in Canada. Now they only served small jail sentence but did pay back some of the funds received, I tried to get them to allow this funds to help stop poverty rather than going back to government. If you wish to read more on this you can visit my attempt on U2 news forum which I wrote back then, when I also had my web site trueloveforhumanity.ca http://www.u2station.com/news/2005/05/mccartney-stones-u2-and-madonna-lined-up-for-live-aid-ii-british-newspaper.php

    Now as for new better way to raise funds it is to start a great new lottery just to help stop poverty. My idea is to call it True Love For Humanity Poverty Lottery, With all governments of the world through the UN must provide new True Love Free Trade Zones to help poor countries create new Green Products in warm climates and to only use new green products to build up their infrastructure, This way it will be win win to stop poverty and save our planet as we are near finished if we do not. Only on condition and that is to be monitored to never ever be a corrupt Government that allow only a few to gain and the rest to live in endless poverty. The Formula that has caused our present world to near collapse is as follows. { Lies + greed and or jealousy = Corruption } This new Lottery being the first United Nations Poverty Lottery with no corruption allowed in the United Nations from today on. We have only one last chance to change from old lying world to new truthful world as God has always wanted us to be on his planet earth. Our time on this present planet is not for much longer if we fail as is seen now each day we are closet to the end, when it happens is up to mankind, it is destine to happen just when is unknown. If you wish to email me and help build up new green economy in what ever small ways we can is best to start now and let it be known we only want to be truthful in business and family and with all friends. gogreendom@inbox.com Dom is my name and my only wish is to help stop endless poverty.

  • http://www.pamelafrench.com Pamela French

    How true the efforts of your hearts! Wonderful to know there are those out there who are digging in on the hard end and working with the people who can further their own destinies. It is true that we will always have poor people because there is no level at which every person on earth can have wealth, but then wealth is not what life is about. We are given, as human beings, the right to better our lives by working hard and helping one another. You and your groups are truly touching the lives of many and as long as the people you help are always kept in the loop you will have success. I’ve read many of the comments that have been left recently and agree with most but I noticed that one of the things that is consistently left out is FAITH. Without having faith that there is a hope of a better tomorrow people easily loose their focus on bettering life around them because it all seems to large and over whelming. So don’t leave faith out of what you share with our new friends around the world.

  • P. Allston Janoski

    The premise of Jake Harriman’s commendable initiative is clear and authentic. I agree.

    As a former MobileMe free trial consumer, I discovered that I was still being alerted that my trial offer was about to end after they had already debited my bank account by $100+.

    I phoned and complained and was credited for the ‘error.’

    I am not too happy to support any initiative that relies upon MeMobile, I’m very saddened to say.

  • Ciaran

    Man invented religion……man invented God………man wrote the Bible……..man invented the Devil……..Jesus Christ was a Jew …..during his time on earth he never crusaded for a new religion is his name……..the Romans did for political ends……..not God….God is merely a man made thing……..

    • http://theloop philip ryan

      Dear Ciaran,

      Just read your comment. I think your right on some points but I also think your mistaken on some others that ultimately will effect your eternal destiny, which is the most important thing. Man does invent as you say religion, most are vain attempts to make ourselves good enough to be acceptable to a deity which wont happen on our own merit. Some religions though have their roots in Godly virtues, guiding us to the Creator, which in turn makes them useful tools to introduce us to The Most High God. Man did not invent God. Although I do think man invents god’s for himself, which end up substituting the real one. Also if your implying that whatever man invents is bad. Man invented the computer your using, the clothes your wearing, the chair your sitting in, the dwelling place your living in etc., etc. Just because man invented it or made it does not make it bad. God, the Creator of Heaven and Earth made man in His own image, in the image of God He created them male and female. We are all made with some of the attributes of God. One of God’s prime attributes is obviously intelligence. Just sit down and try to create something physical out of nothing. A toothpick for example, a grain of sand, how about a speck of dust. If your honest with yourself you’ll realize you cannot make anything out of nothing. Yet God in His omnipotence spoke the worlds into existence, try that some time. Its impossible for us, but with God all things are possible. Yes man did write the Bible, but it was inspired by God through His Holy Spirit. “All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness. It is God’s way of preparing us in every way, fully equipped for every good thing God wants us to do. Ciaran it is my prayer that you will meet, of your own free will, the Creator of Heaven and Earth personally and that through His Word He will teach you of Himself and you will know Him intimately, which is what He desires. Ciaran the Lord Himself is waiting for you to talk to Him, this is what He desires because He made us for His own good pleasure. He wants to have a relationship with you just like you have with other people. I pray that you would seriously consider falling to your knees and asking your Creator to reveal Himself to you. His Word says seek and you will find knock and the door will be opened unto you. But the ball is in your court my friend, He is not going to force His way into your life. You will have to ask Him. I would recommend the Gospel of John in the New Testament of the Holy Bible. This book reveals to us who God really is. You say man invented the devil. Actually Lucifer was a created angel, a very powerful one in fact, and the scriptures go on to tell us that he wanted to take God’s place. The scriptures say that pride was found in his heart because he wanted to exalt himself above the most High God, and Lucifer was cast out of Heaven to Earth and he Lucifer in his fallen state became satan, the devil as you say and he gave up and lost his place in Heaven because of his rebellion against the Almighty. Ciaran we also face a similar dilemma. Like Lucifer we have been given everything, a beautiful planet to live on, an environment to flourish in so that we can develop our talents, air to breath water to drink, food to sustain us all gifts from God by the way. Yet in so many of us, instead of being thankful, and the magnitude of it all humbling us, we become prideful and say to ourselves. God ? What God ? Their is no God, I’m God, God has not made us but we ourselves have, we made God ! And when God sees that pride in us we put ourselves in a very bad position, because God resists the proud but He exalts the humble. Why is it so hard for us to admit that we were created by God ? I think it is because then we would have to admit that we are accountable to someone, and that we just cant do anything we want to do, but we are constrained by morals-absolutes. Yes Jesus Christ is a Jew, I say is because He is seated at the right hand of God today in Heaven waiting till His enemies become His footstool. It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of an angry God. The fool has said in his heart there is no God. Be very careful Ciaran, for you never know when you will take your last breath here on Earth and end up in eternity. For we are appointed once to die, then comes the judgement. Your right, He never did crusade for a new religion in His name. He just followed the one that His parents raised Him in. And out of all the places in the world, and all the religions in the world. Why do you think God the Father chose God the Son to be born into a Jewish family ? That in itself should speak volumes to us all. He did tell us though to go out into all the world and to preach the gospel, baptizing them, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, making disciples out of all nations. And I guess the christian church grew up around that philosophy. And last but not least you say God is a man made thing. And to that I say, God made man. Ciaran there is a scripture that says “My people perish for lack of knowledge”. How incredibly tragic it would be, if you were to perish in eternal damnation, all because of a lack of knowledge. And with that I would again encourage you to open the Gospel of John on bended knee and ask Jeshua the Creator of Heaven and Earth to enlighten your mind and reveal to your heart His true identity so that in eternity future you and I and ten thousands of His saints together can worship and sing praises to our Creator who is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, to the glory of God the Father. Amen. Again I would like to thank Nuru for hosting this forum, and point out that it is through the love and dedication of people made in God’s own image, and by there very actions they show the virtue that the Creator has instilled in them, by giving water to the thirsty, whom our Lord talks about when He said ” When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: and before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from his goats: and he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for I was a hungred and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and you visited me: I was in prison , and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee a hungred, and fed thee ? or thirsty, and gave thee drink ? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in ? or naked, and clothed thee ? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee ? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Then shall he say unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: for I was a hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee a hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee ? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

      • Ciaran

        Hello Philip

        The idea that God made us in his own image is verging on ideas of frankenstien or genetic engineering. It also means that your God has forsaken every life form on the planet for over 5.4billion years and has instead decided to chose modern western man as his chosen people. Your God should be black and from Africa. Instead he is white and speaks modern day English – how can this be? At what point in time did this God make us in his own image and how did he do it? If Adam and Eve had two sons, how did they populate the world? Did they possess some magical, scientific or surgical knowledge to ‘create’ humans; perhaps out of Eve’s rib?

        I guess you will quote scriptures to prove your point. However, man wrote the scriptures too. Man wrote and edited the modern Bible.

        • http://theloop philip ryan

          Hi, Ciaran

          Hey just a short reply for now. I wont bore you with quoting scriptures that apparently you don’t believe in any way. but I will ask you to do this, “think” don’t let others think for you. If you don’t think the Holy Bible is true because of what others have told you, pick it up for yourself and ask the Creator and God of the universe to reveal himself to you through it. What have you got to lose, nothing your just reading a book, if The Lord does speak to you through it, you have everything to gain. Thanks for the reply I’m enjoying our dialogue, I’ll try to write more later.

          Philip.

        • http://www.facebook.com/cain.macwitish Cain MacWitish

          Ciaran, maybe this article can help…

          http://articles.sfgate.com/2009-09-25/entertainme

  • James Howlett

    TL; DR

    I’d just like to say that it’s impressive that they’re using Apple products and services for such work.

  • Dom

    Hello again it is me Dom hope all is going well with the Nuru team in its efforts to help stop endless poverty. Below I have just found another great team working with the same goal in mind. I thought I would just add this great effort for others to view and see if they can assist with any solar components that can be donated to make solar lamps. Visit the site and learn more on how to help. I wish I could do more myself, but I am stuck now trying to restart my life as I am in my lowest point in life. Well I know when my life picks up again working, I have just the causes to support. Thanks Nuru team keep up the good projects, you are on the right path God has destine for you, to stop endless poverty.

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  • http://cardplayerlifestyle.com/ card player

    Isn't that ironic useing the most expensive computers to end poverty

  • Fred

    Ikechukwu, don't waste your money buying locally. I bought my MacBook Pro online (Amazon) and shopped it by DHL/Borderlinx from the US and still saved about $900 compared to the crazy prices in Kenya. The Macs are overpriced.They are usually targetted at media companies that can buy in bulk, pay more and get service contracts.

  • amy

    that is so cool to know that people care

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  • http://cbwealthformulaearners.yolasite.com/ cbwealthformula

    Very inspiring. Its refreshing to know that not everyone is out for just themselves.