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	<title>Comments on: AT&amp;T sets the record straight on Verizon ads</title>
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		<title>By: Sam Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/11/12/att-sets-the-record-straight-on-verizon-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-9619</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah Verizon is now under FCC investigation:

FCC Asks Verizon to Explain Fees

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091204/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_fcc_verizon_charges


For all the incompetence of AT&amp;T, Verizon tries hard to be a close second.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah Verizon is now under FCC investigation:</p>
<p>FCC Asks Verizon to Explain Fees</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091204/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_fcc_verizon_charges" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091204/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_fcc_verizon_charges</a></p>
<p>For all the incompetence of AT&amp;T, Verizon tries hard to be a close second.</p>
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		<title>By: George S.</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/11/12/att-sets-the-record-straight-on-verizon-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-8903</link>
		<dc:creator>George S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iPhone may be going to T-Mobile USA next?  This is the second tech journalist that has been hinting at this in the past week. Do they know something about Apple that we don&#039;t? 

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10634548/1/apple-iphone-may-go-to-t-mobile-next.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iPhone may be going to T-Mobile USA next?  This is the second tech journalist that has been hinting at this in the past week. Do they know something about Apple that we don&#8217;t? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.thestreet.com/story/10634548/1/apple-iphone-may-go-to-t-mobile-next.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thestreet.com/story/10634548/1/apple-iphone-may-go-to-t-mobile-next.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: 2394872397</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/11/12/att-sets-the-record-straight-on-verizon-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-7412</link>
		<dc:creator>2394872397</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an AT&amp;T/iPhone user, and I would drop AT&amp;T in an instant if I could.  I live in the Bay Area and work in San Francisco, and dropped calls are a daily occurrence.  I have missed important calls, and I&#039;ve had to call back into business meetings 2-3 times.

It&#039;s embarrassing and unprofessional.  I had significantly better cell phone service 10 years ago.

The key facts in AT&amp;T&#039;s counter-assertions are all correct -- with the possible exception of the 3G speed.  But they all miss the point by a mile.  I CANNOT MAKE OR RECEIVE PHONE CALLS RELIABLY WITH MY AT&amp;T PHONE.  That&#039;s been true from day one.  It&#039;s been true in the five states that I&#039;ve been in since January with this phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an AT&amp;T/iPhone user, and I would drop AT&amp;T in an instant if I could.  I live in the Bay Area and work in San Francisco, and dropped calls are a daily occurrence.  I have missed important calls, and I&#8217;ve had to call back into business meetings 2-3 times.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s embarrassing and unprofessional.  I had significantly better cell phone service 10 years ago.</p>
<p>The key facts in AT&amp;T&#8217;s counter-assertions are all correct &#8212; with the possible exception of the 3G speed.  But they all miss the point by a mile.  I CANNOT MAKE OR RECEIVE PHONE CALLS RELIABLY WITH MY AT&amp;T PHONE.  That&#8217;s been true from day one.  It&#8217;s been true in the five states that I&#8217;ve been in since January with this phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/11/12/att-sets-the-record-straight-on-verizon-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-7314</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s wrong.  AT&amp;T also has the same &quot;$1.99 buttons.&quot;  My wife has a Sony Ericsson and she hits that damn thing all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s wrong.  AT&amp;T also has the same &#8220;$1.99 buttons.&#8221;  My wife has a Sony Ericsson and she hits that damn thing all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/11/12/att-sets-the-record-straight-on-verizon-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-7065</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that just about every phone company I hvae ever heard of has a bunch of people that speak about how evil they are. I can talk to 5 people in my building and get 5 different reviews of their service, all from the same company. Some will have dropped calls. Some will have dead zones in same locations that other of the same carrier will have perfectly normal reception.

I couldn&#039;t care less about tethering. At least now. I have no need for it and don&#039;t foresee any in my future - but that&#039;s just me. I&#039;m sure it means the farm to many more people.

The change within at&amp;t that will keep me with them after the iPhone is available on other networks came last month with the addition of the A-List.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that just about every phone company I hvae ever heard of has a bunch of people that speak about how evil they are. I can talk to 5 people in my building and get 5 different reviews of their service, all from the same company. Some will have dropped calls. Some will have dead zones in same locations that other of the same carrier will have perfectly normal reception.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t care less about tethering. At least now. I have no need for it and don&#8217;t foresee any in my future &#8211; but that&#8217;s just me. I&#8217;m sure it means the farm to many more people.</p>
<p>The change within at&amp;t that will keep me with them after the iPhone is available on other networks came last month with the addition of the A-List.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/11/12/att-sets-the-record-straight-on-verizon-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-7061</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear ya Bob.  I guess since I haven&#039;t had the pleasure of dealing with Verizon I can&#039;t comment on their service or customer service for that matter.  And your input was spot on about how AT&amp;T using their revenues to better service in metro areas.  Most with iphones complain about service &amp; dropped calls more than those with other phones on AT&amp;T.  It&#039;s probably both.  Eh, I have a feeling we&#039;ll ALL whine about our mobile service providers of some sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear ya Bob.  I guess since I haven&#8217;t had the pleasure of dealing with Verizon I can&#8217;t comment on their service or customer service for that matter.  And your input was spot on about how AT&amp;T using their revenues to better service in metro areas.  Most with iphones complain about service &amp; dropped calls more than those with other phones on AT&amp;T.  It&#8217;s probably both.  Eh, I have a feeling we&#8217;ll ALL whine about our mobile service providers of some sort.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/11/12/att-sets-the-record-straight-on-verizon-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-7060</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see you drink the Kool-Aid, Dennis. It&#039;s wonderful to have a map with lots of red on it. However, the point of what AT&amp;T has done is to focus its coverage not all over the map, but in places WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY ARE. As such, you probably don&#039;t have 3G coverage in the bustling metropolis of Murdo, Utah. Instead, AT&amp;T is putting its money on focusing and increasing 3G coverage in major metro areas such as (gulp) New York City, or along major Interstate freeways.

Don&#039;t get me wrong: I&#039;m not some AT&amp;T fanboy. But it makes sense to invest in adding more cell transmitters where most of the population is located, rather than spreading your investment thin on adding coverage everywhere. The iPhone is AT&amp;T&#039;s ticket. The revenues they make from the iPhone will directly fund investment in expanding and deepening its 3G network.

I live in the city where Verizon has its headquarters. And every time I drive past their building, I flip them off. Read David Pogue&#039;s recent article about Verizon in the New York Times (http://bit.ly/4cqeuX) and maybe then, you might understand how evil they are. This may be one of many reasons why Steve Jobs told Verizon to pound sand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see you drink the Kool-Aid, Dennis. It&#8217;s wonderful to have a map with lots of red on it. However, the point of what AT&amp;T has done is to focus its coverage not all over the map, but in places WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY ARE. As such, you probably don&#8217;t have 3G coverage in the bustling metropolis of Murdo, Utah. Instead, AT&amp;T is putting its money on focusing and increasing 3G coverage in major metro areas such as (gulp) New York City, or along major Interstate freeways.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong: I&#8217;m not some AT&amp;T fanboy. But it makes sense to invest in adding more cell transmitters where most of the population is located, rather than spreading your investment thin on adding coverage everywhere. The iPhone is AT&amp;T&#8217;s ticket. The revenues they make from the iPhone will directly fund investment in expanding and deepening its 3G network.</p>
<p>I live in the city where Verizon has its headquarters. And every time I drive past their building, I flip them off. Read David Pogue&#8217;s recent article about Verizon in the New York Times (<a href="http://bit.ly/4cqeuX" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/4cqeuX</a>) and maybe then, you might understand how evil they are. This may be one of many reasons why Steve Jobs told Verizon to pound sand.</p>
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		<title>By: Misha</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/11/12/att-sets-the-record-straight-on-verizon-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-7052</link>
		<dc:creator>Misha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also to its credit:
- AT&amp;T leads Verizon in dropped calls by a wide margin

And for what it&#039;s worth, here in Austin TX my 3G speeds around downtown seldom get above 100-200kbps (*not* KB/sec -- more like 10-20 KB/sec). Yet my Sprint connection routinely gets above 1,000Kbps... 

There&#039;s definitely heavy congestion and poor performance in some parts of the U.S. for AT&amp;T customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also to its credit:<br />
- AT&amp;T leads Verizon in dropped calls by a wide margin</p>
<p>And for what it&#8217;s worth, here in Austin TX my 3G speeds around downtown seldom get above 100-200kbps (*not* KB/sec &#8212; more like 10-20 KB/sec). Yet my Sprint connection routinely gets above 1,000Kbps&#8230; </p>
<p>There&#8217;s definitely heavy congestion and poor performance in some parts of the U.S. for AT&amp;T customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Javi</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/11/12/att-sets-the-record-straight-on-verizon-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-7045</link>
		<dc:creator>Javi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But... Verizon is the Evil Empire!!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/12/technology/personaltech/12pogue-email.html?8cir&amp;emc=cir</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But&#8230; Verizon is the Evil Empire!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/12/technology/personaltech/12pogue-email.html?8cir&amp;emc=cir" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/12/technology/personaltech/12pogue-email.html?8cir&amp;emc=cir</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dennis in Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/11/12/att-sets-the-record-straight-on-verizon-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-7008</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and yet it STILL has a smaller 3G coverage area.  That&#039;s the point of the Verizon commercial.  AT&amp;T 3G coverage area is SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER than Verizon&#039;s.  PERIOD.

I have an iPhone on AT&amp;T &amp; would MUCH rather be on Verizon&#039;s network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and yet it STILL has a smaller 3G coverage area.  That&#8217;s the point of the Verizon commercial.  AT&amp;T 3G coverage area is SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER than Verizon&#8217;s.  PERIOD.</p>
<p>I have an iPhone on AT&amp;T &amp; would MUCH rather be on Verizon&#8217;s network.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Dalrymple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Dalrymple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL -- good add.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL &#8212; good add.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/11/12/att-sets-the-record-straight-on-verizon-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-6995</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And AT&amp;T doesn&#039;t have phones with a button hard wired to download data (no matter how little) and charge you a minimum $1.99 per download. Accidentally pushed it? You get a $1.99 charge for 1 meg downloaded, no matter how little data was actually downloaded.

This is why Verizon is evil.

Still, to be completely honest, AT&amp;T needs to add  - &quot;But we don&#039;t tether the iPhone yet.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And AT&amp;T doesn&#8217;t have phones with a button hard wired to download data (no matter how little) and charge you a minimum $1.99 per download. Accidentally pushed it? You get a $1.99 charge for 1 meg downloaded, no matter how little data was actually downloaded.</p>
<p>This is why Verizon is evil.</p>
<p>Still, to be completely honest, AT&amp;T needs to add  &#8211; &#8220;But we don&#8217;t tether the iPhone yet.&#8221;</p>
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