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	<title>Comments on: Snow Leopard outsells Leopard and Tiger in first two weeks</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel Swanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Swanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve got to move on, man! Upgrade to CS4!

I attended a city council meeting last night. Bunch of whining bums who didn&#039;t want a property tax increase. Five-member council voted 3-2 to approve the increase. That was good. We have to pay the price to maintain and IMPROVE services and the quality of life in our town.

No big differences in principle between that and IMPROVING services and the quality of life on the Mac platform.

Life has to EXPAND to survive. Nothing less will do. Anything less contracts and dies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got to move on, man! Upgrade to CS4!</p>
<p>I attended a city council meeting last night. Bunch of whining bums who didn&#8217;t want a property tax increase. Five-member council voted 3-2 to approve the increase. That was good. We have to pay the price to maintain and IMPROVE services and the quality of life in our town.</p>
<p>No big differences in principle between that and IMPROVING services and the quality of life on the Mac platform.</p>
<p>Life has to EXPAND to survive. Nothing less will do. Anything less contracts and dies.</p>
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		<title>By: andy thorne</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy thorne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely it is because it is far cheaper than previous operating systems!?

However, it doesn&#039;t work well with CS3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely it is because it is far cheaper than previous operating systems!?</p>
<p>However, it doesn&#8217;t work well with CS3.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Swanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Swanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care about these details. All I care about is that Snow Leopard seems to be selling well.

I know I, for one, like it on my iMac 3.06GHz dualie. Everything runs faster, and I like the new features, such as when you click and hold on a running app&#039;s dock icon, you see it alone and whether there are any docs or windows open without having to switch to it.

Extensis just released an update to Suitcase Fusion 2 which includes SL compatibility. Adobe CS4 apps work well, so it&#039;s all good, as far as I&#039;m concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care about these details. All I care about is that Snow Leopard seems to be selling well.</p>
<p>I know I, for one, like it on my iMac 3.06GHz dualie. Everything runs faster, and I like the new features, such as when you click and hold on a running app&#8217;s dock icon, you see it alone and whether there are any docs or windows open without having to switch to it.</p>
<p>Extensis just released an update to Suitcase Fusion 2 which includes SL compatibility. Adobe CS4 apps work well, so it&#8217;s all good, as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: bugmang</title>
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		<dc:creator>bugmang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So there are a number of details that were left out of the press release that should be considered.

1. Overall, the installed user base (I&#039;m assuming) has grown since the time Tiger &amp; Leopard were released. As such, there would be more total machines in use. This suggests to me that over time (assuming the user base continues to grow) sales would increase in terms of total numbers but say little about what proportion of the user base has upgraded.

2. What type of sales are involved? Retail boxed versions? Up-to-date upgrades with machines purchased since June but before machines were released that included Snow Leopard as the default installation? This becomes important when considering how Tiger &amp; Leopard&#039;s numbers are calculated. Are they the same? Without these details, I&#039;m not really sure how to take the news. Different assumptions on this issue can lead to markedly different conclusions.

3. The week-to-week numbers are pretty much uninformative (without details on numbers 1&amp;2 above). In my personal experience, I had a hard time getting snow leopard from my local outlet because they underestimated the number of copies the local market would consume and sold their available copies rather quickly. This outage continues now, nearly three weeks since it&#039;s release making me wonder if there is some (potentially artificial) limitation in supply. I managed to get mine from Apple&#039;s online store a few days after release.

4. Lastly, do these numbers include Apple&#039;s direct sales? I would assume so; but because it hasn&#039;t been a full month, I wonder if these reports are based off of estimates, brick-n-mortar store receipts, etc. Details are fuzzy.

If someone could shed some light on these it would be a better (or worse) story than it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So there are a number of details that were left out of the press release that should be considered.</p>
<p>1. Overall, the installed user base (I&#8217;m assuming) has grown since the time Tiger &amp; Leopard were released. As such, there would be more total machines in use. This suggests to me that over time (assuming the user base continues to grow) sales would increase in terms of total numbers but say little about what proportion of the user base has upgraded.</p>
<p>2. What type of sales are involved? Retail boxed versions? Up-to-date upgrades with machines purchased since June but before machines were released that included Snow Leopard as the default installation? This becomes important when considering how Tiger &amp; Leopard&#8217;s numbers are calculated. Are they the same? Without these details, I&#8217;m not really sure how to take the news. Different assumptions on this issue can lead to markedly different conclusions.</p>
<p>3. The week-to-week numbers are pretty much uninformative (without details on numbers 1&amp;2 above). In my personal experience, I had a hard time getting snow leopard from my local outlet because they underestimated the number of copies the local market would consume and sold their available copies rather quickly. This outage continues now, nearly three weeks since it&#8217;s release making me wonder if there is some (potentially artificial) limitation in supply. I managed to get mine from Apple&#8217;s online store a few days after release.</p>
<p>4. Lastly, do these numbers include Apple&#8217;s direct sales? I would assume so; but because it hasn&#8217;t been a full month, I wonder if these reports are based off of estimates, brick-n-mortar store receipts, etc. Details are fuzzy.</p>
<p>If someone could shed some light on these it would be a better (or worse) story than it seems.</p>
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