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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft reports earnings: it&#8217;s a bloodbath</title>
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		<title>By: bime</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/07/24/microsoft-reports-earnings-its-a-bloodbath/#comment-3530</link>
		<dc:creator>bime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but...according to surveys, most people will just skip windows 7...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but&#8230;according to surveys, most people will just skip windows 7&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: geoduck</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/07/24/microsoft-reports-earnings-its-a-bloodbath/#comment-975</link>
		<dc:creator>geoduck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I suspect that Microsoft business model is technologically under assault and the company will have to innovate its way out of this situation really fast&quot;

LOL
Microsoft and Innovation in the same sentence....

Seriously though, MS has a history of cranking out products, each worse than the last, then when the industry is starting to say that they are finally over the hill they drop an XP or Server 2003 that is quite good. Then they live off of that for another half decade. Though W7 is just Vista with improvements (I think of it as Vista SP3) I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if it is a hit. MS is due to knock one out of the park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I suspect that Microsoft business model is technologically under assault and the company will have to innovate its way out of this situation really fast&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL<br />
Microsoft and Innovation in the same sentence&#8230;.</p>
<p>Seriously though, MS has a history of cranking out products, each worse than the last, then when the industry is starting to say that they are finally over the hill they drop an XP or Server 2003 that is quite good. Then they live off of that for another half decade. Though W7 is just Vista with improvements (I think of it as Vista SP3) I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if it is a hit. MS is due to knock one out of the park.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt McCormick</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/07/24/microsoft-reports-earnings-its-a-bloodbath/#comment-813</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt McCormick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Microsoft’s incompetence so wonderfully demonstrated by Vista, and Microsoft’s arrogance so wonderfully illuminated by them even daring to sell such a pile of rubbish and thinking everyone would just swallow it.&quot;

I&#039;d be a little careful about statements like this. Does anyone remember Windows 98 and ME? Both of them were total pieces of garbage as operating systems. Then came XP which, in all honesty, was a solid operating system. I spent about 4 years doing development work on that platform and had extremely few problems (I now do mostly Open Source work from my Mac which is also very, very stable).

So before we all celebrate the death of Microsoft, let&#039;s remember that everyone was making these same comments 10 years ago and it got MS motivated enough to release XP. Despite what people on here seems to think, MS is not a company full of morons. There are some very sharp people dealing with problems that Apple never has to worry about: Like running on a multitude of different hardware platforms, orders of magnitude more people trying to hack them, and enterprise level legacy users that prevent them from just throwing things out and starting over (which is what Apple did with its first version of OS X).

Vista was garbage. Win 7, like the last version of Office, will not be and 2-3 years from now the vast majority of users will probably be running it and Microsoft&#039;s financials are going to look stellar again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Microsoft’s incompetence so wonderfully demonstrated by Vista, and Microsoft’s arrogance so wonderfully illuminated by them even daring to sell such a pile of rubbish and thinking everyone would just swallow it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be a little careful about statements like this. Does anyone remember Windows 98 and ME? Both of them were total pieces of garbage as operating systems. Then came XP which, in all honesty, was a solid operating system. I spent about 4 years doing development work on that platform and had extremely few problems (I now do mostly Open Source work from my Mac which is also very, very stable).</p>
<p>So before we all celebrate the death of Microsoft, let&#8217;s remember that everyone was making these same comments 10 years ago and it got MS motivated enough to release XP. Despite what people on here seems to think, MS is not a company full of morons. There are some very sharp people dealing with problems that Apple never has to worry about: Like running on a multitude of different hardware platforms, orders of magnitude more people trying to hack them, and enterprise level legacy users that prevent them from just throwing things out and starting over (which is what Apple did with its first version of OS X).</p>
<p>Vista was garbage. Win 7, like the last version of Office, will not be and 2-3 years from now the vast majority of users will probably be running it and Microsoft&#8217;s financials are going to look stellar again.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/07/24/microsoft-reports-earnings-its-a-bloodbath/#comment-797</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I like having Microsoft around. I&#039;m also happy when they have &quot;wakeup calls&quot; like this to remind them that the old IBM marketing model of creating markets (we&#039;ll tell you what kind of products you want) doesn&#039;t work. Without Microsoft&#039;s initial success I doubt we&#039;d have the quality of Apple products we now enjoy. 

The first Apple products were very limited in terms of performance, options, software and highly proprietary. At that time the PC (with Microsoft OS) ruled because you could use the command line interface (much faster for experienced users) and the variety of options/software/peripherals from vendors was huge. 

We now enjoy the wide variety of high-quality Mac products thanks to Apple&#039;s focus to gain market share from Microsoft. I have a PC for absolute compatibility with customers and an iMac for myself. The iMac experience is outstanding, but I wonder... what would it be like now if Microsoft hadn&#039;t come along?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I like having Microsoft around. I&#8217;m also happy when they have &#8220;wakeup calls&#8221; like this to remind them that the old IBM marketing model of creating markets (we&#8217;ll tell you what kind of products you want) doesn&#8217;t work. Without Microsoft&#8217;s initial success I doubt we&#8217;d have the quality of Apple products we now enjoy. </p>
<p>The first Apple products were very limited in terms of performance, options, software and highly proprietary. At that time the PC (with Microsoft OS) ruled because you could use the command line interface (much faster for experienced users) and the variety of options/software/peripherals from vendors was huge. </p>
<p>We now enjoy the wide variety of high-quality Mac products thanks to Apple&#8217;s focus to gain market share from Microsoft. I have a PC for absolute compatibility with customers and an iMac for myself. The iMac experience is outstanding, but I wonder&#8230; what would it be like now if Microsoft hadn&#8217;t come along?</p>
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		<title>By: KevinB</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/07/24/microsoft-reports-earnings-its-a-bloodbath/#comment-777</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James may be right about people waiting for Win 7 so as not to deal with Vista.  But after Walt Mossberg&#039;s column this week...  If I were still a PC user (I was on PCs for most of my life before switching over), I&#039;d seriously consider dumping Windows completely and migrating everything to OS X.  It&#039;d be  far easier than the steps needed to &#039;upgrade&#039; to Win 7.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204900904574304283334746634.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James may be right about people waiting for Win 7 so as not to deal with Vista.  But after Walt Mossberg&#8217;s column this week&#8230;  If I were still a PC user (I was on PCs for most of my life before switching over), I&#8217;d seriously consider dumping Windows completely and migrating everything to OS X.  It&#8217;d be  far easier than the steps needed to &#8216;upgrade&#8217; to Win 7.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/07/24/microsoft-reports-earnings-its-a-bloodbath/#comment-770</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little perspective though...

Most Windows users have probably put-off buying anything for the last year because the KNEW Windows 7 was coming and they wanted nothing to do with Vista. I suspect the next quarter&#039;s numbers may look a bit brighter for the turd-burglars in Redmond.

That being said, any sort of &quot;slide&quot; in revenues/sales for MS is a good thing for the entire industry, IMO. They&#039;ve had it too good for too long, and I hope Apple can gain some big ground.

Yahoo sat on their duff for too long as well, and look what happened. Someone finally came along and kicked them in the crotch. They&#039;ve spent millions upon millions ever since trying to get back in the game and have had one failure after another. Here&#039;s hoping that MS uses Yahoo as a business model!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little perspective though&#8230;</p>
<p>Most Windows users have probably put-off buying anything for the last year because the KNEW Windows 7 was coming and they wanted nothing to do with Vista. I suspect the next quarter&#8217;s numbers may look a bit brighter for the turd-burglars in Redmond.</p>
<p>That being said, any sort of &#8220;slide&#8221; in revenues/sales for MS is a good thing for the entire industry, IMO. They&#8217;ve had it too good for too long, and I hope Apple can gain some big ground.</p>
<p>Yahoo sat on their duff for too long as well, and look what happened. Someone finally came along and kicked them in the crotch. They&#8217;ve spent millions upon millions ever since trying to get back in the game and have had one failure after another. Here&#8217;s hoping that MS uses Yahoo as a business model!</p>
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		<title>By: rd</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/07/24/microsoft-reports-earnings-its-a-bloodbath/#comment-766</link>
		<dc:creator>rd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cancer is good for the economy too.
Why don&#039;t every one get cancer so doctors and
insurance companies can get rich.  It would help the
economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cancer is good for the economy too.<br />
Why don&#8217;t every one get cancer so doctors and<br />
insurance companies can get rich.  It would help the<br />
economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Linehan</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/07/24/microsoft-reports-earnings-its-a-bloodbath/#comment-765</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Linehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Their results are bad because they’re not much good at what they do.&quot;

Well, &#039;not much good&#039; was true, all along, when results were good. The difference is that people have now seen it --- once they had Microsoft&#039;s incompetence so wonderfully demonstrated by Vista, and Microsoft&#039;s arrogance so wonderfully illuminated by them even daring to sell such a pile of rubbish and thinking everyone would just swallow it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Their results are bad because they’re not much good at what they do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, &#8216;not much good&#8217; was true, all along, when results were good. The difference is that people have now seen it &#8212; once they had Microsoft&#8217;s incompetence so wonderfully demonstrated by Vista, and Microsoft&#8217;s arrogance so wonderfully illuminated by them even daring to sell such a pile of rubbish and thinking everyone would just swallow it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jocca</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/07/24/microsoft-reports-earnings-its-a-bloodbath/#comment-763</link>
		<dc:creator>Jocca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that there is a more serious underlying cause to Microsoft problem, other than the economy. It is the advent of competitive office suites such as NeoOffice, OpenOffice that a lot of people have found good enough to replace the much more expensive MSFT Office suite with. Also Cloud computing is not helping in anyway with Google announcing a new operating system to go with it. I suspect that Microsoft business model is technologically under assault and the company will have to innovate its way out of this situation really fast before it gets overtaken by this new development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that there is a more serious underlying cause to Microsoft problem, other than the economy. It is the advent of competitive office suites such as NeoOffice, OpenOffice that a lot of people have found good enough to replace the much more expensive MSFT Office suite with. Also Cloud computing is not helping in anyway with Google announcing a new operating system to go with it. I suspect that Microsoft business model is technologically under assault and the company will have to innovate its way out of this situation really fast before it gets overtaken by this new development.</p>
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		<title>By: Henno</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/07/24/microsoft-reports-earnings-its-a-bloodbath/#comment-752</link>
		<dc:creator>Henno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your comments, Dave, are wide of the mark. IBM, Intel and Apple all produced good results despite the poor economy. Microsoft is simply suffering from not being very good - in this case Vista being terrible, doing nothing meaningful in the mobile sphere, not knowing how to grow search and struggling generally in the cloud. 

They&#039;re results are bad because they&#039;re not much good at what they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your comments, Dave, are wide of the mark. IBM, Intel and Apple all produced good results despite the poor economy. Microsoft is simply suffering from not being very good &#8211; in this case Vista being terrible, doing nothing meaningful in the mobile sphere, not knowing how to grow search and struggling generally in the cloud. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re results are bad because they&#8217;re not much good at what they do.</p>
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		<title>By: AlfieJr</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlfieJr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or maybe it means what Apple is doing successfully - making innovative high quality products - is what the US economy really needs instead. oh, and manufacturing them in China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or maybe it means what Apple is doing successfully &#8211; making innovative high quality products &#8211; is what the US economy really needs instead. oh, and manufacturing them in China.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/07/24/microsoft-reports-earnings-its-a-bloodbath/#comment-750</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I was thinking what is bad for Microsoft is good for the country. But in this case, for the short term, you&#039;re right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I was thinking what is bad for Microsoft is good for the country. But in this case, for the short term, you&#8217;re right.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Barnes</title>
		<link>http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/07/24/microsoft-reports-earnings-its-a-bloodbath/#comment-749</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that, as Apple fanboys, we are enjoying this moment of Microsoft pain. But, it behooves us to remember that Micrsoft&#039;s problems are just one indicator of the problems with the US economy. I am not saying that &quot;what is good for MS is good for the country&quot;, well, yes, I am saying that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that, as Apple fanboys, we are enjoying this moment of Microsoft pain. But, it behooves us to remember that Micrsoft&#8217;s problems are just one indicator of the problems with the US economy. I am not saying that &#8220;what is good for MS is good for the country&#8221;, well, yes, I am saying that.</p>
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