∞ What really happened with Apple and the "Laptop Hunter" ads

A big deal was made last week about a phone call from Apple legal to Microsoft asking them to stop running its “Laptop Hunter” ads. The way it was portrayed was that Apple was feeling the pressure from the ads and was trying to get them pulled. I don’t think so.

Laptop HunterBut what really happened? I have a theory on that.

If you noticed, Microsoft recently began running the older ads again. In point of fact, the ads were wrong because they depicted the Macs as being more expensive than they actually are.

Apple could have submitted a complaint to the FTC about false advertising, but instead they called Microsoft directly. Apple’s legal team told them of its concerns and that was the end of it. Until Kevin Turner, Microsoft’s chief operating officer let the cat out of the bag.

I don’t blame him for telling everybody. The fact is, Apple would have done the same thing during a keynote if it had the chance.

The problem is that Apple allowed itself to be pulled into the “Laptop Hunter” ad debate at all. To this point, Apple has kept clear of the whole debate about whether or not those ads are working.

This was a terrible mistake on their part. Microsoft is soaking every bit of press they can get out of it.

Here’s how it went down during Turner’s speech, according to Microsoft’s transcript:

And so we’ve been running these PC value ads. Just giving people saying, hey, what are you looking to spend? “Oh, I’m looking to spend less than $1,000.” Well we’ll give you $1,000. Go in and look and see what you can buy. And they come out and they just show them. Those are completely unscripted commercials.

And you know why I know they’re working? Because two weeks ago we got a call from the Apple legal department saying, hey — this is a true story — saying, “Hey, you need to stop running those ads, we lowered our prices.” They took like $100 off or something. It was the greatest single phone call in the history that I’ve ever taken in business. (Applause.)

A better approach for Apple would have been to put a laptop hunter on one of the “I’m a Mac” commercials, like it did with the “Elimination” ad. Make fun of the situation, but don’t respond directly to the commercials.

Maybe Apple should hire Homeless Frank for an ad or two.

To be honest, I don’t think Apple is one bit concerned about the “Laptop Hunter” ads. Why? Because they aren’t even the customers Apple expects to get from that category of shoppers.

Apple has never targeted that low-end customer. Admittedly $1,000 is on the border of where people could buy a Mac, but when people start out with a low price in mind, you’re not going for a Mac.

The ads don’t answer a lot of questions, like the viruses and malware that Windows users will inevitably be infected with. It also doesn’t answer the real cost of owning a PC over a Mac even in the short term, let alone over the long haul.

Last year Apple owned 66 percent of the computer market priced $1,000 or higher. Do you really think they need to be concerned about Microsoft showing how cheap their partner’s computers are? No.



  • http://tewha.net Steven Fisher

    I wonder if “Apple” was ever involved exactly. This seems like exactly the sort of response that happens without anyone in management ever being consulted.

  • Jim Dalrymple

    I don’t think the lawyers could act on their own with something like that.

    • http://tewha.net Steven Fisher

      You’re probably right, Jim, but here’s what I’m thinking:

      We don’t really know how long ago this call happened. “Two weeks ago” from July 15th would have put it around July 1st. If “two weeks ago” is just rounding, it could have been before Steve Jobs’ return.

      While Steve Jobs is not the be-all and end-all, he *is* the guy that people aren’t gonna cross. And I could easily see the lawyers doing something like this without approval right before he got back. (“We can’t wait on this, we need to respond now!”)

  • Kerri Hicks

    Do you think someone could call Microsoft and ask them to kill those IE 8 ads, too? Please? Because they’re AWFUL.

  • Jim Dalrymple

    ROTFL — that would be so funny! “Please stop those ads. Please.”

  • Jocca

    I think Microsoft is trying their hardest to show people that it is winning on the cheap PC war. It is an illusion really. We know that there are PCs out there that are comparable to the Macs in specs and cost just as much if not more , but Microsoft being Microsoft is only choosing the cheapest models to compare with the Macs which actually belong to a different class of machines altogether. The clueless crowd will buy into that at no loss to Apple which do not depend on them to make a sale. I do not think Apple management is going to loose sleep over it because the ads in effect underline once more Apple’s commitment to not sell cheap stuff, a point that I as a Mac user finds very comforting. It is these cheap clients that drive all the other PC makers to cut prices (and qualities/innovation) to the bones in order to make a kill. Apple needs not play in that kind of sandbox. Microsoft which is taunting these cheap boxes as a must have, will soon have to make some serious revision on the price of its softwares because they are really way overpriced in proportion to the cheap boxes it is advertising.

  • JS

    Here’s another theory MS just made the whole thing up…they are not above stooping this low. Remember the I switched from PC to Mac fraud they tried to perpetuate? They got caught & had to eat crow.

  • http://www.noonedriving.com HowManoid

    If those commercials are unscripted I’m a Dutch uncle. There is just no way MSFT is ambushing people in malls and parking lots and just “getting lucky”… This is a real production whether they want to admit it or not.

    FAIL

  • Costanza

    I really have to wonder, what machines Microsoft will deem worthy of inclusion in their new retail outlets, and where they will be priced.

  • Al

    The ad in question shows an old style MBP 15″ that was made obsolete last fall when the first carved aluminum MBPs debuted. The sticker price shown was $1999 for the 15″ MBP. The ‘Laptop Hunter’ in the ad said the Mac only had a 13″ screen.

    When the ad first aired, the pictured, old 15″ Mac was selling in Best Buy at a clearance price of $1699, a full $300 cheaper than the sticker.

    The ad is still running and the 13″ Mac the ‘Laptop hunter’ mentions, the one that looks similar to the 15″ one pictured, sells for $999, a $1000 cheaper than the sticker in the ad.

    The ‘Laptop Hunter’ buys a 15″ PC with poorer display, CPU and graphics card for less than $1000 because they want a 15″ screen. The ad is so full of intentional falsehoods that some advertising watchdog should have called Microsoft on it long ago.

    The annoying thing is that the price in the ad was $1000 too high, not $100 to high as the Microsoft shill suggests.

    The ad that plays in Canada has been changed and now shows no price sticker or incorrect 15″ Mac picture.

    Microsoft never plays by the rules, we all know that.

  • David Godfrey

    Unscripted?? Puhlease… he lost all credibility right then and there. Lauren was outed as a professional actresss just days after it aired. And as a professional in the broadcast industry I can tell you real people are your WORST choice for shooting anything. They’re all paid actors doing their thing. period. I’d say he made the whole thing up to spin that the ads are working.

  • Joe Anonymous

    Yes, it’s looking more and more like Microsoft made the whole thing up. There’s absolutely no reason at all why ANY attorney would make a phone call to make that kind of demand, much less an Apple attorney who tends to start with ‘let’s file suit against you, your company, your third cousins, and the next door neighbor’ and move up from there.

    Microsoft has a history of outright fabrication – even in court while under oath. Lying to a bunch of developers isn’t even a minor deal for them.

    Hint: When someone starts a story by saying ‘True story:’, it probably isn’t. If it’s someone from MIcrosoft, you can bank on it being a lie.

  • Eric

    I’m with those who say the phone call never happened, or that it’s content was completely different.

    You can’t trust Microsoft drones to be honest because they know they’re losing mindshare, and they don’t know how to stop the bleeding. So they twist facts and make things up.

    Like someone wanting to share photos decides Macs can’t do that. Talk about a stupid premise for the hunter ads. Did they see the keynote about Faces and Places for iPhoto? (Apple, put that in Aperture!)

  • http://www.bourkepr.com KMB

    I agree that, if Apple did in fact contact MS on these ads, they immediately struck a defensive posture which, to your point, is an admission that the ads are working and they are hurting Apple.

    I don’t know, but I was a PC user for 20 years before I switched to my MBP (and I kick myself for not switching sooner). It would be so easy to retaliate with mock ads that showed the painful price of a PC (the excruciating cost of ownership that even goes beyond $$), but even that would be an admission.

    But for me personally, MS lost me with the ad of the young woman who wanted an inexpensive but powerful solution to “cut video.” Sorry, haven’t heard an editor use that expression in a long time when talking about their work, but more importantly, what editing app did you purchase along with that crappy PC to “cut your video?” I’d have more respect if she said she needed a platform to run Avid Xpress or Media Composer…..but whattya gonna do… ;-)

    Thanks Jim….

  • Katy

    This is a total deception, Apple legal would NEVER call Microsoft NEVER.

    The facts are that all the years that apple deals with legal matters they send out a Letter from the legal department and never do they use the supposed “PHONE CALL’ Analogy.

    If people really believe for one moment that Apple legal called Microsoft directly, you apparently do not have a clue how legal matters are addressed by corporate entities.

    There is no way a Phone call was made, and for that i say Microsoft can crow all they want but “PROOF” is where?

    Facts are also that all legal departments record ALL Phone conversations, And if so release it Microsoft.

    This has been talked over a number of times and it is true that this does not follow or even come close to how Apple has taken care of legal matters in all these years, They DON’T Call.

    Apple Will Have there Legal Department Write & Deliver Certified requests for Cease action, Only a Moron would call, Since it is Not proof and Inadmissible as proof if needed in Court.

    Really think about it. Don’t think it’s true for a moment that 26 plus years of following the same legal proceedings would be done in such an amateurish way.

    Fail Microsoft, Prove it that Apple did this.

    Like Microsoft has always told the truth and Never lied to the public and got caught at it.

    OH WAIT… They HAVE

    “The Mojave Experiment 2″ Were Soaking you with It. ;-)

  • Hari Seldon

    I must say, I thought this story sounded fishy, are there no depths to which microsoft will not sink? To stand up in front an audience and blatantly lie like this is truly reprehensible.